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router crapped out... weird, that it would communicate remotely but nothing directly connected would automatically attain an IP or even ping the router. first time I've ever seen that...

I'm just now starting to play with LuxRiot... So far I'm a little disappointed in the Web Client. Is there any R&D going into improving it? At the very least archived playback would be nice... What about cell phone aps? What about alarming/ emailing functions?

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Do many of you installers use lux meters? I was thinking it could come in handy for selecting cameras/ lenses... I was thinking of picking one up. Found a cheap one on Amazon for $35.

Talked to a real Mobotix rep for my region.. they don't have a live one setup anywhere where I could login. Unbelievable...

Thanks for the reply... that's kinda what I've got planned tomorrow to check/ double check for myself. I was just hoping for a common sense fairy to pop me in the head so I could go, "ohhhhhh yaaaaaa!!" and then call them and go, "do this... voila!" lol

you remember that link? I've got a similar problem with a netbook of mine... the darn thing won't retain any power/ sleep settings. Even if I create a new power settings profile. It will save the profile until I reboot a couple times, then disappears. B/c of this it keeps going to sleep after X minutes of inactivity. very annoying as I like to leave it running for various aps. happens regardless of being plugged into the wall for power or running battery. screen saver is disabled. It's running Vista Basic.

They squwershed em! Cute.

stay far away from ebay. most "pci" cards come with software. manufacturers make 4, 8, and 16 channel capture cards. i guess you could buy 2, 4 channel cards but why?

what area are you in?

You can post the full, uncompressed still frames on this website and I'm sure there will be people who will be willing to play with it for you in PhotoShop. Unfortunately, there is no technology to live up to the popular cliche seen in the movies and CSI that your probably thinking of...

Thanks. I have been offered by my suppliers aka partners to order one at a discounted rate for trial purposes. However, I'm already doing that with countless other cams and equipment... It'd be nice to just see something in a real world scenario before I invest even more cash in overhead.... -Does it have WDR- like capabilities? Meaning does it stuggle to see into that darkhall way leading into another room and get blinded and washed out when someone opens the door from outside? When most of the lights are out in the office after everyone's gone... is anything visible? How would it perform in a small, dimly lit resturaunt?

IP can just be a means of transferring a digital signal -- and one that is so ubiquitous and cheap and flexible that any other solution is almost certainly going to be more expensive, less flexible, and ultimately less widely used. Relatively inexpensive analog video to IP adapters and ethernet-over-coax adapters are available to integrate IP solutions with existing equipment/infrastructure. The cost differences between IP-based digital solutions and analog solutions will continue to erode to the point where analog is dead. Non-ip based high-def solutions are unlikely to play anything more than a niche role in the future. I agree... 5 years ago a much smarter man that I in the IT field told me "In the future, EVERYTHING will be networked. Network connections will be just as common and necessary as power outlets at home and in business." We can see the trend... Everything is becoming instantly accessable anywhere. No more proprietary hardware, direct connections, and limitations. Soon even removeable media will be outdated... Once IT is on the "network" (whatever IT is) it can be accessable by anyone and anything anytime and anywhere. No reason why CCTV won't follow.

I hardly ever run coax (RG59) to cameras anymore and I never run the cheap "simple cable". If you run CAT5, you can use passive baluns to carry both video and power to each of the analog cams. Plus it's easy to upgrade to IP MP cams later as they continue to decrease in price or your budget allows. CAT5 is pretty versitle and it's nice to only run cable once... I've had bad luck with simple cable. It breaks easy and is prone to interferance from lots of things... As far as power for the analog cams, use a fused distributed power supply. It's a single box that can power 4, 8, or 16 cameras (aka channels). Believe it or not, I've had good luck with the cheap ones on Amazon. Altronix are good but pricey. As far as cams, VST Man has you on right track... However there are thousands of cameras to choose from with those specs. Lots of good ones, but even more bad ones. Once you think you've found one you want, order just 1 and test the heck out of it before you order more. Nothing beats a real world demonstration... The only thing worse than a crappy camera is a whole box full of crappy cameras. Just my 2 cents...

I looked into this as well a while back... Wells Fargo and Citi both said no, they won't finance "CCTV service and equipment." My idea was to offer 3rd party financing/ approval like big box retailers. 12/24 months no interest. Never could find anything equivilant...

Interesting... what's the picture quality like? Looks similar to Panasonic and D-Link type consumer IP/ web cams....

The original post asked if it was possible to simply plug cameras directly into a wireless router/ hub and could be viewed/ recorded remotley. The answer is yes and you can read the solution in my previous post. However as you mentioned, a DVR and analog cameras are also a solution and most likley the cheapest way to add CCTV in this application. Still check out the Mobotix Q24 camera though. Everything you'd ever need for a CCTV system in one small dome... very cool.

Yes, but you will run into a lot of headaches like: 1. DSL upload speeds are horrible. This will compromise your FPS and video quality. Not to mention slow down everything else sharing the network. 2. You will need IP cameras, preferably with H.264 streaming since they will be viewed remotley. A decent couple IP cameras will be expensive. Between $400- 1200 each. Assuming that your trying to save $$ by not having a recording device locally, IP cameras won't save you much money. 3. Reliability. You really need some sort of on site recording. You'd be suprised how often internet connections go down. If you have the budget for it, and still think you'd like offsite recording/ viewing from 2 IP cameras... check out Mobotix. The Q24 would fit the bill nicely. These cameras have all the recording functions built in to the camera so no external recorder (DVR/ NVR) is necessay. They can easily be viewed/ recorded remotley when connected to your router... You can directly connect a SD memory card, or even an external USB hard drive to the camera. Another plus is that this camera can take the place of several. It can record the events in an entire room with its 180 degree panoramic lens. It's possible that you'd only have to buy one if these cameras instead of 2 that you originally thought you'd need... given that you only need recording in 1 room. Google the Mobotix Q24. Pretty sweet...

if you keep with port 5550 then you do not need a static ip port 5550 will keep you logged on to avers dnn server Interesting... didn't know that about Aver. I'd still be inclined to setup a static IP for the server though. Seems like it could create other headaches if you didn't...

You can change the port numbers to whatever you like on the DVR. Just make sure your router is setup to forward them. I use canyouseeme.org to test port communication outside of the network. Very handy tool as you'll find some ports are blocked by your internet provider.

Explain to me how an "integrator" can loose a job to a "supplier"??? Am I the only one that thinks this doesn't make sense??

that's what I was thinking... not a big deal

Blu-ray DVR???

Are there any noticeable losses in video quality when using baluns and Cat5e vs coax? (assume less than 200' and high quality baluns). Best, Christopher No.

Does it look like one of these? If so, which one? http://www.usasecuritystore.com/servlet/Categories?category=Stand+Alone+DVR