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I had this same problem a few months back.. It happened when I changed the ip just like you did. What I did was after it deletes the camera finally, go click scan cameras and then see the camera with the new ip address in the scan results window. Then add the camera and click ok and exit. Just make sure your not currently monitoring or you will have more problems. Another thing that seems to help is if you disconnect the camera physically from the network by removing the ethernet cable. Hope this helps..

For GV-Iview or Aview, the Previous CIF for iphone and ipad and Android was 320x240. Now it is 640x480 for both iphone & ipad, as well as for the android. For GV-EYE, iphone and ipad are 1280x960, using H.264

Id say the previous poster is right, you are exceeding the HD transfer rate and the frames are getting dropped. I had the same problem with a 1480 card in a hybrid DVR/NVR system and it was annoying. I also experienced this on a few IP cameras using the onboard microSD card but when I upgraded to a Class 10 card the problems went away.

Setup is very simple, you dont neccesarily need a POE switch, if your just going to have 1 or 2 cameras then buying a few POE injectors is probably cheaper. Then simply use the IP Device Utility and it will scan your network and find the camera(s). From there you can change the IP address, etc. I have a 520 installed indoors in a retail makeup store and its wall mounted. If you are interested id be happy to PM you the login info for the guest account and you can look at it and get a idea of things. I would not be concerned about outdoor mounting as long as you buy the outdoor version of the 520. Thats why they offer 2 versions, indoor/outdoor. Yes you can remote live view as well as play back recordings remotely and on your LAN but there are some limitations. 1) You cannot access the 520 from a mobile device (iPhone, iPad, Android, etc) since the 520 does not dual stream and is a 5 megapixel camera. The GV-iView and GV-Eye apps only support 2 megapixel, so you will get a error message saying "Resolution not supported". The only workaround to this is if you are running the GV NVR software along with the 520 and have the webserver configured for remote access. Even then your resolution is limited to 320x240 and the picture quality is not very good. 2) For Live view and playback there are a few options: Installing software on the local or remote machine you wish to use to access the camera. The app you will need for live view is called DMMultiview, but there is no mac support. For remote playback the app is called Remote Viewlog. It too is windows only, no mac version. OR You can also access the camera directly through any web browser for live view and remote playback but some options (such as motion detection) will be missing from the configuration page if you are not using Internet Explorer and you will not be able to play anything back unless you install Remote Viewlog on the PC your accessing the camera remotely from. And YES, you can configure the recycle threshold for overwriting older files in both the GV-DVR/NVR software as well as directly through the web interface of the camera itself if your using the onboard storage with a MicroSD card. And NO, you cannot record to both simutaneously, and be aware there is no support to record directly from the camera to a NAS without first having a PC with the GV-NVR software running, but you can set it up so you can record to the NAS through the GV-NVR software running on a PC and if the connection is ever lost from the camera to the PC then the camera will record to the onboard microSD card until the connection is restored. There is a utility called GV-Sync that you can set to run at any interval to check the onboard storage of the camera and if it finds files it copies them to the NAS (or whever you like) on the PC running the GV-NVR software. You can also just record directly to the microSD card in the camera itself, which negates any requirement for a PC running the NVR software and is much simpler. A better option for you would maybe be to just forget having a NAS and PC running the GV-NVR software all together and simply just buy a microSD card for the 520 and record directly to it. The only downfall to this is that you cannot get some of the advanced features that are supported with the GV-NVR software (counter/intrusion triggering, etc) but you can still access it from any method I mentioned above. Yes, the audio recording/microphone feature works fine on the 520, although ive never used the microphone feature, just the audio recording feature. Hope this helps,

If you are currently monitoring any cameras installed, the set location is greyed out. You need to stop all monitoring and then the set location will no longer be greyed out. (and then start monitoring again)

Just upgraded to a iphone5 and it works fine for me as well. I have a hybrid system and using GV-iView, havent tried the ip only GV-Eye but it worked on both my old iphone4 and my ipad2.

Maybe next release we get Sandy Bridge GPU decoding!

I haven't tried what your suggesting, but if you end up trying it with a short dvi cable and it works then I would assume it would work with a longer one. Either way, post your results and let us know, I'm curious as well. I have a few 25 or 30' DVI cables as well as DVI powered repeaters for sale if you are interested, they were used in a nightclub I used to own and no longer need them.

I think your a little confused. I have customers with 200 cameras on a network with about 50 of them Megapixel and bandwidth is about 350Mbps which is not a problem for a gigabit network. If your cameras stream at 5Mbps you could have well over 100 cameras on your network without any issues and there are ways to add even more capacity to a 1Gb network if you team connections. Also 10Gb networks are here and the price is dropping everyday. My point is if you know how to design a network bandwidth isn't a problem. As for your Apple TV that comes down to your wireless network and there is a lot more to go wrong with them. If you have a G router you only have 25Mbps of usable bandwidth that you share with your other devices. There are better wireless APs that can do 300Mps using 2.4/5Mhz and can handle multiple HD streams if designed properly. Hmmm.. whats the bit depth of these IP cameras? ANd when your referring to watching 50 IP cameras at once, your talking about in the secondary stream, which is probably about 704x480 or so correct? I guess the quality of the IP cams isn't what I thought it was, but I just ordered a few 3mp so I guess ill see for myself.

You just answered your own question: with IP cameras, you don't need the hardware card. Are you saying that I could purchase, for instance, 4 Geo IP camera's only, and then provide a server and a network switch and that is all I need? I don't need a Geovision card to be able to run the latest version of the Geo software on a new server? Just to try to clarify a bit, with IP cams you don't need geovision at all, there is plenty of 3rd party software that will support IP cameras. If you like the geovision software, then by all means use it, just make sure that your ip cams are compatible with the geovision software (they provide a list of supported 3rd party IP cams). If you buy Geovision IP cameras, you don't need any additional licensing. If you buy 3rd party IP cams and want to use the Geovision NVR or DVR software, you need to buy a license. Lastly, you don't need a server at all, but a good stand alone pc with fast hard drives and a good processor is crucial with IP cameras, and if possible run it on its own network to keep traffic down on the LAN. Also remember you will need to power those cameras, so you might as well buy a POE (power over ethernet) switch so you only need to have one cat 5 run to each IP cam (assuming they are POE compatible, which all the good ones are). Or you could do it the hard way and run power to each IP camera separately if you don't want to buy a POE switch (a good 10 port POE switch is around $400, cisco makes a nice one, as does d-link.) You will also see that most IP cameras dual stream, meaning what you see on your screen is a lower resolution than what it records to the hard drive at. The reason for this is that it only takes 3 or 4 IP cameras (even at 1.3 mp) and your network will be near capacity. Ive never tried it, but I am pretty sure trying to stream 8 or more IP cameras at 1920x1080 is going to bring your network down to its knees. In the future I'm assuming we will see many more IP cams that are gigabit compatible (most are 10/100 right now) I know the cisco switch is a gigabit switch, so maybe with a gigabit full duplex connection between the PC and the switch and then 100mb connections from the switch to each camera would be sufficient but like I said earlier, I highly doubt it will stream 8 IP cams at 1920x1080. Hell, apple tv is only 720P and it can barely do that wirelessly and its only one stream. And if you do have a widescreen , etc, like Rory said, you have options in the 8.x Geovision software to not only go to higher resolutions, but also to adjust picture to the screen format (16:9, 16:10, 4x3, etc)

-------------------------Comparison for GV-Combo Card and GV-Combo A Card----------------- ------------------------------- Total Recording Rate (NTSC/PAL) (fps)-------------------------- .......................GV-1480---- GV-1480A----GV-1240---- GV-1240A---- GV-1120----GV-1120A VGA  .............. 120/100..........240/200.........120/100..........120/100...........80/70............80/72 fps D1   ............... 120/100..........240/200.........120/100..........120/100...........80/70............80/72 fps  Turbo VGA..........N/A..............416/400.............N/A..............240/200.............N/A.............120/100 fps Turbo D1............N/A..............352/320.............N/A..............240/200.............N/A.............120/100 fps Not that anyone at Geovision would know that.... but in case anyone else is wondering, here it is. My question is still unanswered. How does the Geovision 8.5 software allocate the frame rates (fps) on their cards? Example, with the older 1480 card, If your set to D1 resolution (704x480) and have 16 analog cameras connected, does the 120fps get divided by 16 camera and is fixed at 7.5 frames per camera whether any of the cameras are recording or not? >>OR<< Does it allocate 30fps per camera until it exceeds 4 cameras recording at once and then starts dividing frames between the ones that are recording? (I got the number 4 from taking the max frame rate at D1, which in this case is 120 and dividing it by max fps which is 30)

Connie would be better off on the couch collecting unemployment. That way she wouldn't be wasting peoples time and could let someone competent assume her position running the live help desk. This isn't about one card, it applies to EVERY card Geovsion makes, it's a question that pertain's to the 8.5 software, which CONNIE should be at least familiar with. Instead she can't even find the menu context items, let alone tell me what it does. And she continues to give me the side step and bypassing my questions. If thats the best employee's geovision can find then god help that company.

Version 8.5, 1480 card (the original one, not the 1480A), 16 cameras installed. 1) What does the limit port feature do exactly? (find under system configure, startup, general) It says in the manual it gives more frame rates to the working cameras but if Im correct I thought the software did this automatically when you had less than the max cameras installed? (e.g., if the 1480 card has 16 cameras set at D1 (704x480) resolution the frame rate would be 15fps, if you had 8 cameras at D1 (704x480) resolution then the frame rate would be 30fps.) If I'm correct and the software does allocate frame rates to the working cameras automatically then what is the purpose of the limit port feature? Below I attached the chat log from geovision, they were worthless in helping me. 2) Im getting ready to add a IP cam, if I understand right then once I do I will have 32 channels to choose from instead of the 16 I now have? Is this correct? 3) In your experience, is it worth it to buy the geovision ip cams and not need the dongle or am I better off buying the dongle and after market IP cams? 4) at what price/performance point is it worth it to pay extra? e.g., How much better is 1.3 vs 3 vs 5? I understand the resolution difference, I want to know real world experience. 5) are the IP dome vs brick vs bullet cams near the same image quality? From my experience years ago In the analog world, the bricks seemed to always be better followed by the bullets and then the domes. 6) is there any frame rate change between 704x480 and 704x480 De-interlaced? Does processing usage go up much more when de-interlaced is enabled? Thanks! ================================= Welcome to GeoVision online support, my name is Connie. Please give me a moment to review your question. [Connie] How many cameras do you have? [Geoff ] 16 analog cameras [Geoff ] my question is a bit convoluted so let me start with a simpler one, ok? [Geoff ] the 1480 card is rated at 480 fps, at what resolution? [Connie] one second. [Geoff ] ok [Connie] CIF resolution is 480 fps. you can check http://www.geovision.com.tw/english/Prod_GV1480A.asp [Geoff ] yes, I just said that earlier. My question is what is the resolution its measured at? 320x240? [Geoff ] 480/16=30 fps at 320x240. At 640x480 its going to be 15fps, what is it at 704x480? [Geoff ] Also, is there a difference in framerate between 704x480 and 704x480 de-interlaced? [Connie] CIF for 480 fps and D1 for 240 fps, as you can see in the link I just provided. [Geoff ] is D1 704x480? And does the framerate of 240 change whether or not I pick de-interlaced or not? [Connie] D-1 resolution is 720 × 480 for NTSC systems [Geoff ] So if I have 16 cameras running at D1 I have 14fps for each camera, correct? [Geoff ] And if I have 8 cameras running then I should have 30fps for each camera right? [Geoff ] Do does the geovision software automatically split the framerate between ONLY the working cameras or for each channel thats enabled in the software? [Geoff ] When I mean each channel in the software, I mean whether or not it has a camera connected or not. [Geoff ] typo in my earlier message, I meant 15fps, not 14fps. [Connie] The total fps will be shared with how however many cameras you have. [Connie] Divide Eight ports card with total 240 and you get 30fps. [Geoff ] SO what does the limit port function do then? In the manual, it says to use the limit port feature to give frame rates to other cameras. If the software does this automatically then why do you have the limit port feature in the software? [Geoff ] Hello? [Connie] The cacluation is based on the hard ware. New software give you the ability to give frame rate to more repferable cameras. [Geoff ] that is true, but the limit port feature actually DISABLES whatever channels you pick in the limit port option box. So once again, why is that feature there and what exactly does it do? [Geoff ] the feature your talking about is under each cameras options, it has nothing to do with the limit port feature. [Connie] Can you specify where you find limit port option? [Geoff ] yep, system configure, startup, look under General [Connie] Do you refer to frame rate limitation under rec control? [Geoff ] NO, i just said, under system configure, then click on startup. When the box pops up you will see the option for limit frame rate. [Geoff ] If I meant rec control I would have said System configure, Camera configuration, rec control. [Connie] what verison do you use maybe we have different interface? [Geoff ] 8.5 [Connie] Do you have lots of more questions, since it is into our lunch break for 20 minutes. Can you come back arund 1:00PM ? [Geoff ] Your clicking on the hammer and screwdriver icon correct? And then you click system configure, then you click startup and when the screen pops up its not there? [Geoff ] NO, this is my last question. [Connie] system configure-> where is startup? [Geoff ] right below password setup. [Connie] found it, [Connie] Does your gray out? [Geoff ] when you click system configure you should see general, camera configure, camera install, password setup, startup, system log setting, etc. [Geoff ] no [Connie] If you limit the port to lower, then you have advantage to get more frame rate. [Geoff ] I thought you told me earlier the software did it automatically depending on how many cameras I had installed? [Connie] I will have to go, please come back later or check on our user manual for the usage of the limit. [Connie] Sorry aobut this inconvenience. [Geoff ] ok

to answer the OP's original question.. because I think he misunderstood the answer... you can get 1080p all you want with a IP cam and a capture card together, the options for the resolution in the geovision software only apply to the ANALOG cameras connected to the card. The IP camera gets its own window and shows whatever resolution the IP camera is set to. (at least I think this is how it works, I don't have any IP cameras installed)

Thanks for the offer. I will let you know if I end up needing it. From what ive been reading ALL 1480 cards support the 8.x software, and DONT need a dongle, regardless of the age of the card or the firmware on it. If this is true then obviously I need to take a look at the hardware end of things instead of blaming the card or software. I will try the card in another machine and post my results..