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Outdoor Camera Installation Advice
variador replied to lkstaack's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
you can use pvc pipe with the rounded endcaps. looks a bit like a white hot dog. cut notches in to each endcaps. pick the size pvc that will hold all the connectotrs you are going to have. opening later is done by pulling either cap off. not real pretty but durable, works well unmounted, and not very expensive. the harder you push on the endcaps helps the fit to be more airtight. this helps to keep out water and wasps. lots of things will work. electrcal tape will do ok for a year or two but it is messy and a pain to undo when checking the connection later. COAXial connections and thr 3.5mm power plugs are very robust. I keep the baluns dry in a tube, box, or camera housing. hope that gives you some ideas -
16 IP cameras have slowly stopped transmitting video
variador replied to roboman554's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
take one camera out of the lineup and install it on another router/lan. there are many possibilities. they could have all finished using their memory cards up if they were not set to overwrite. trying one camera out of the lineup can help to diminish the possibilitirs -
Black screen when accessing DVR over LAN
variador replied to samedpatel's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
iE browser version can cause problems. Browser versions the same on both computers? You can set IE 11 to look and act like older versions. Google it if that might be the problem. -
How is audio recorded through an NVR?
variador replied to brwjunior's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
It looks like the camera has a microphone that will be recorded to the SD card unless you tell it not to. The NVR will also be able to record the audio. The extra wire you are referring to is most likely the "line in" if you would choose to bypass the microphone. You might want a different or have a better audio input source. There is a software toggle to switch between mic and line in. Pretty sure the default is mic. The camera can be set to record high quality video. Add audio and you are talking about some heavy data throughput and processing. You can choose the quality of the video and the compression of the audio. Hook it up and see how it records. The NVR will record the audio. You might have to play with the video parameters to get the best quality possible. This would be like tweaking a video game for shadows, frame rate, detail. It depends on your system. If it is terrible you can start at the bottom (D1) and work your way up from there. Usually digital video has the audio mixed in with it. They are one. Separating them is a special process. I could be wrong about this but be aware that both signals could be digitized together. I forget where this mixed thing can be a problem. Somewhere in editing which probably won't effect you at all. What I can't tell you is if the audio is restricted by the frame rate. Probably not bit if you have a problem getting the audio look at frame rates. In any case audio should record to the card. If the NVR has no sound and the card does, that will tell you the NVR has a limitation with the audio that you aren't aware of. Time to go deeper into the settings. If there is no audio in either one you have a setting wrong in the camera. Bottom line, it will probably be no problem at all. Hi def recording at 30fps and audio can be a lot of data. Problems? Reduce the data rate to the NVR. Changing parameters does nothing? Call tech support. Hope that helps I could be off base but it's a place to start Don -
3d printed multiple camera mounts
variador replied to variador's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
Ugh, Sorry, tried to attach two images and it didn't work. Here is the second image. It must have been too many k. I will resize it and keep my fingers crossed. -
Sometimes video cameras can be quite offensive. Here is a 3d printed ceiling mount for four video cameras. There are signs posted that the premises have video surveillance in case people think someone is trying to pull a fast one. There are also one or two other cameras mounted in the same area that have the regular video camera appearance. One cat5 cable goes to this mount for the video and one cat 5 for the power. At the DVR one cable brings back all four video feeds to baluns that go to the 16 input DVR. This helps to cut down cable clutter at the DVR. Only 3d printed the entire fixture once. The required amount of time printing was restrictive. Now we use inexpensive track lighting. All the electrical is stripped out. Wires from the Cat5 cable are run in the old electrical wires place. A round plate is 3d printed to fit into the fixture with a hole in the center. The camera gets mounted to this plate. The balun and the power plugs fit behind the plate holding the camera in the track lighting fixture. Cameras in the track are easily adjustable to any direction and height. The wires drop out of the ceiling to the base of the fixture. We have put cameras like this in with regular track lighting too. Haven't posted an IMG in a while so this one is a test. If anyone wants to see what the track lighting idea looks like I could post that later. [/https://www.flickr.com/photos/22175266@N03/14404909270/] Thanks Don
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3d printed multiple camera mounts
variador replied to variador's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
Here is a camera mixed with regular lights in the track. It is covering the front door. This plate is silver/grey and has since been replaced with white. Ran out of white for a while. The grey makes it easy for you to see. No one noticed it enough to say anything about it even in grey. Here is a close up of another fitting. It is not track lighting but close. Again all the electrical stripped out and replaced with the wiring for the cameras. -
3d printed multiple camera mounts
variador replied to variador's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
Here is the picture from the last message that didn't seem to work right. Can't find a picture of the track lighting right now. When it is mounted on the ceiling it looks like track lighting. There is one that hasn't been mounted yet. That can get posted later -
RG-59 Siamese Quality Issues
variador replied to glasssplinter's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
Just my two cents. Running cable is the most time consuming thing for me. Second most time consuming thing is stripping wire and putting ends on. Using single baluns on cat5 yields two to four connections per cable run depending on where you get the power from. Putting baluns on cat 5 is much faster than putting ends on coax cable. Never have bought expensive baluns. Usually about six dollars a piece. Always have had good luck with them. The speed of installation makes up any difference in cost of hardware. Now talk about cable management. 16 Siamese video cables going to one DVR can get to be a real mess. One cat 5 can represent four cameras from one area. This setup can be kept much cleaner and easier to troubleshoot. IMHO. Run two different color cat5 cables, one for color for video and one color for power and you can locate your DVR in one place and your power box in another. This keeps 32 supply wire sets separated on a 16 input DVR. Nothing says that you have to supply all the power from one place either. Keep the power supplies close to camera groups and run less wire shorter distances. Great to hear everyone's opinions and techniques Don -
Opening ports is easy, getting them open can be a real problem. Constantly running into this. Finding someone who can help at the service provider can be very difficult. In the meantime, this always works for me. Can you see the CCTV DVR on the LAN? Do you have a favorite VPN setup? One that always works? My favorite is iteleport. Iteleport doesn't need port forwarding. You can connect your computer using a cellular hotspot to the internet and access it from anywhere in the world. Iteleport doesn't need port forwarding, it needs a gmail address. The computer you want to access starts up iteleport and it connects to a gmail account that you specify. From another computer anywhere on the internet you start iteleport and give it the same gmail address as the computer you want to access. Now access the computer that can access the CCTV DVR on the LAN. This method needs a PC that isn't being used to work but it works. One more way is with a streaming device like a slingbox. Connect the slingbox to the video out of the DVR and access the slingbox from anywhere. Controlling the DVR with the slingbox is the difficult part but it is possible. These choices are the last choices you would want to take. I am using the PC method right now while trying to make someone from Comcast realize that their gateway router will not open ports. At least the one being used. That is if you can talk to someone that understands opening ports. Ooohhhh you have to use port forwarding to open ports! Now to convince them that you know how to forward ports. Sarcasm is wasted in writing and generally not appreciated. Sorry to all. Let's just say I can feel your frustration with the situation. Good luck hope you find something that works.
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wireless transmission over 3g Dongle
variador replied to swastiknath's topic in Video Transmission/Control Devices
Found a way to get static IP data cell card without spending the $500 up front. 3G store will sell you a monthly contract from Millenicom. $50 setup fee, $99 a month for a Verizon static IP card with a 20 GB monthly limit. That's a monthly contract not yearly or two year. There is another way. You need a Dedicated PC and what I would call easy VPN. The app iteleport works with ios, android, Mac, and PC. The app iteleport links you to your computer through a gmail account. I know it works with regular cellular. Your computer can always be found with iteleport because you connect your computer to your gmail account by staying logged in to your gmail. It can need to be reset once in a while by restarting the computer. The open ports on your DVR are not a problem because your PC is communicating with the DVR on the LAN. One more way is with a slingbox. In this situation the slingbox is getting the video from the DVR through the actual video connection. No ports to worry about here either. Everything can connect to a slingbox over cellular. It has been a couple years since I used this method but there was a way (experimental) to control the DVR like you would your TV by mapping your DVR remote control . Unless your DVR is high def you are better with an older slingbox that doesn't have high def. The one caveat with that was that the older slingboxes might get left behind by the newer slingbox software. Don't know the details of this anymore. Slingbox forum could help you find all of this out. Used to use both of these methods on the iPhone 2. It was really great when the ipad came out. By the time iPhone 4s came out the DVR manufacturers were making apps for their machines. BUT and this is a big BUT, now your need to be able to open the necessary ports because you are connecting directly to the DVR. This is what you do with port forwarding. Dumb name port forwarding. I get it, but port opening would be an easier definition for a new user. Anyway, then comes the dilemma. How to open ports on a cellular connection? You can't. I have read a person or two claim they were able to and you can count on this like rain in the desert. Here it is in a nutshell. Get the live video out of the DVR with SOMETHING and communicate over cellular with that SOMETHING instead of the DVR. What can a cellular app run over the cell connection? A computer, a slingbox or other streaming device. Is there something else? Robert Chou might have an android something. Have to look that up. Thanks and good luck Don -
Hello, my name is Don. I post as Variador. Been using and setting up cameras and DVRs in our six stores ever since the CCTV guy we used retired. That was in 2005 or so. Have always liked cameras and being able to watch our six stores with internet connections is like a kids dream come true. Over these years we have been through three sets of DVRs and many different internet set ups. The variety of equipment available is incredible and really makes these forums helpful and important. Hope to be able to exchange some information with everyone in the future instead of just lurking. Thanks for all the information that I have gleaned from these forums in the past. Don
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Help Connecting DVR to Internet through cellular router
variador replied to variador's topic in Computers/Networking
Success! This is a way that will work for anyone in the states anyway. Been hoping for a person or two to mention a way that worked for them. I will say the exact equipment used but there is one thing that is a must for this particular setup. That is a cellular data card with a static IP. With the static IP card and the right router you can control the ports. Being able to open the correct ports is the obstacle in the way of connecting a CCTV DVR to the internet with a cellular connection. This is what port forwarding is all about. Opening ports. Regular cell connections have no controllable ports. Getting back to the the static IP card, I tried to get one from AT&T for two days, actually a weekend and two days. Don't know why but getting one static IP data card from AT&T is close enough to impossible that I stopped trying. Verizon sells them for a one time fee of $500 and then you get a data plan that charges like any other data plan they have. Didn't try that, found another way thanks to the 3G store. Found the 3G store online while looking for a cellular router. Can't open ports without a router. The 3G store has found a service called Millenicom that has cellular static IP cards. All said and done you get the card with 20 GB for $100 a month. It is a monthly plan and can be cancelled at any time. The startup fee is $50. The bandwidth is as good as your LTE or 3G connection. I got 12 Mbps down and up with no tweaking. In the states a 20GB a month cellular plan is a great price. IF and this is a big if now, if you didn't get in on an unlimited plan which chokes we hear at 4gigs, and if you need 20GB a month. OK, if you haven't stopped reading at the $100 a month then you only have to get past the $500 plus router. These routers are really awesome. I picked a Pepwave Max BR1. What is so awesome? Check this out. You can have Two data cards, a USB cellular modem, and an Ethernet connection all plugged into the same router. The connections can be prioritized and load balanced. Load balancing can help you from not running over your monthly allotted data. The connections can be prioritized so that if one stops the next one in line takes over. This makes port forwarding seem like pre school stuff and this is where the 3G store can help with tech support that I found great. . OK, back to the DVR setup. My router only has the cellular static IP card (Verizon, btw) in it. Once you get this far you are ready to roll. If you know how to get your DVR hooked up on the land line side so it is accessible from anywhere with an internet connection then you will be able to get this to work for you too. There are two other methods I figured out that I will post later but this way is the straight up way that let's you use the apps that were made to work with your device. In my case the iphone Everfocus apps or PC method that runs with the IE browser. I love and prefer IPcamviewer but for some reason it has some kind of problem getting the data from the DVR so I have to use the Everfocus apps that are good but not as good as IPcamviewer. So that is how I was able to get a cellular connection to work with the DVR type we are using for now. This setup could go anywhere Verizon has service. Even in a moving vehicle. The router is even 12v DC. Want to know where your service truck is and how they are driving? With your cell phone app you could practically be riding right alongside them. You should be able to listen and talk to them too if the DVR has that capability. Technology is wonderful isn't it? Maybe a little expensive for now but that always gets better. Thanks Don -
Help Connecting DVR to Internet through cellular router
variador posted a topic in Computers/Networking
Hello, Been struggling with this problem for a while and lately a lot. How to connect a CCTV DVR to the internet where no land line internet service is available. Tried Ethernet Bridges with hotspots and have currently stepped it up to a cellular router. No joy yet This is tough to search without getting all the messages about trying to access the DVR with a smartphone. Can also find messages about connecting to IP cameras and cellular routers. I have experience connecting landline DHCP, Static IP, and port forwarding but still get stuck occasionally. If anyone could answer any one of these questions it would be appreciated; Are there particular brands of DVR that work best with cellular routers? Are PC based DVRs easier to connect with cellular routers? Can the PC based DVRs take advantage of the NO-IP or DYNDNS tracking agent. No experience here I want to connect a DVR to the internet through a cellular router. Is there a better way to say this? Search this? Can anyone point to any discussions about connecting CCTV DVR to Internet with cellular connection? Is there a better forum than Computers/Networking? Does anyone currently have a DVR connected to the internet through a cellular router/connection? An answer to any one of these questions would be appreciated Thanks Don C -
Help Connecting DVR to Internet through cellular router
variador replied to variador's topic in Computers/Networking
I was referring to a personal hotspot. It is a device with a cellular connection that let's you connect to it wirelessly to get the cell connection that it has. The immediate problem you have with a hotspot is that they don't have Ethernet ports so you can't connect a CCTV DVR to them. I am in Chicago Illinois. Verizon and AT&T are the lead providers. My Verizon iPad can get up to 50 MBPS down with at least 6 up. My AT&T iphone can come in at the same. The upload on both networks can get very high but I don't remember exactly. Both networks are LTE. The building I am in can only get a .768 MBPS land line connection that is shared. Essentially we have no control of the others using the bandwidth. Ran a speed test the other morning and got .14 Mbps down and .16 Mbps up. Seriously, I have a picture so I don't get confused or told of misinterpretation. This makes the cellular connection look very good yes? Problem is DVRs need open ports and standard cellular connections don't let you open ports. Came hear looking for detailed solutions that others have found. This is comparable to wanting to run a CCTV DVR in your car and have it accessible from anywhere in the world, while you are driving. We are using Everfocus Ecor264 X1-16 DVRs. The 16 stands for 16 channel. You could get a good 360 view with 16 channels eh? We only want some bandwidth in the building. It was OK till our bandwidth could go to nearly zero without our control. We do have a choice, install comcast. That install would cost $8700 dollars. Comcast would pay the first $5000 but we would have to come up with the $3700 OR find a way to make cellular work. The DVR has been installed for a couple years and going to all IP cameras has it's own expense. Anyone else with a problem like this? Thanks Don -
wireless transmission over 3g Dongle
variador replied to swastiknath's topic in Video Transmission/Control Devices
Hi, I am trying to accomplish this also in Chicago Illinois. The DVR is an Everfocus ECOR264. Have tried many things. Everfocus has DDNS built in. It is relatively easy to get to work on a land line ethernet connection. The DVR only needs port 80 open. This is where my problem seems to come from. Just spent the last couple days trying to get a static IP data card from AT&T. All the reps say that they have the cards but nobody can get it to happen and they never have had a customer that got one. Going to try Verizon. Verizon has a one time fee of $500 to get a Static IP card. It is getting to be my last option having tried almost everything else. Anyone connect their DVR to the internet via cellular? Don C