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Alright I have a customer that needs help setting up his IP camera system. Basically he has a NVR, 16 ip cameras and 4 switches. The area he is setting these. cameras is wide, so from the nvr location where the main switch is, there is fiber optic cable connecting the other 3 switches back to this same switch where the nvr is connected to. 2 of the switches will have 5 ip cameras coonected to each and the 3rd will have 6 cameras on it for a total of the 16 cameras. Here is my question. Im assumming i need to make sure that all the IP cameras need to be on the same IP segement that the main switch is on, so if the main switch has an Ip address of 192.168.1.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, dft gw 192.168.1.0, the is it fair to say all my IP cameras would need to be set to 192.168.1xx (192.168.1.80) and so on with the same subnet and dft gw? Also, do i have to set port fowarding on each camera and if so does it have to be set unidentical, where camera 1 would be ip address 192.168.1.80 port foward 80, camera 2 192.168.1.81 port foward 81, camera 3 192.168.1.83 port foward 83 and so forth? Will i have to input this port fowarding on all 4 switches or just at the switch at the NVR? What other ports do i need to open to view this Ip cameras over the internet? Any help is greatly appreciated...

So its normal then to have your PVM show everything reverse? The dvr shows what we want, but the pvm shows right is left and left is right, is this normal and exceptable?

So what would you recommend to resolve this issue soundy?

Is there a away of getting a dvr to view a camera in its normal view and at the same time have it attached to a pvm with a splitter and have the PVm show the mirror image of what the camera view is? I have a install going and seem to be fighting this issue and cant seem to figure it out.

I say stay away as well. We tried installing 2 8185 dn's at a local facility here and it was nothing short of a nightmare. Both cameras came DOA or Semi-DOA. We set them up wirelessly and had them coming into a Video Insight NVR, along with 8 Sony PTZ's. Basically the cut filter between day and night didn't work. Half the camera images were bw and the other 2 were in color. The camera kept rebooting itself and in doing so kept flipping upside down and causing packet lose and video loss. The recorded video was literally HORRIBLE at best. It looked like robots walking across a screen, no fluent motion and it looked like the fastest slowest robot images in the world. Were it roboted every image, but the images looked like they were passing by the camera at 100mp and it couldn't capture a clear image. We tested them off the nvr and at the office and they still didn't work. I have to say, i am extremely disappointed. It was our first time dealing with Arecont and it was disaterous, it will more than likely be our last time dealing with Arecont products. First bad taste in our mouths leaves a long lasting impression and we are in no hurry to try them ever again.

Why or when would i use a powered video splitter vs. a standard tsplitter? Basically what we are trying to do is have the video camera show live video on a public view monitor that is at the door where customers can see themselves coming into the store and at the same time show up on the dvr as well. Our customer loves powered video splitters, but we have to run 18/2 to them to get them to work, wouldn't a standard standard tsplitter with a male in and 2 females out work as well? WHat am I not looking at? When and why would it have to be a powered video splitter? The average run of siemese cable from the camera to the dvr is about 150-200 feet and the public viewing monitor is about 3 feet away from the camera, so the distance remains the same. help me understand please.

At a $1 a pair, can you send me that contact and used by our fellow members!!!

As u guys may know already, my company moved into the surveillance system market about 2 years ago. Slowly but surely we have installed small to medium sized systems, with our largest being 64 channel system. Recently we were asked to install 4 PTZ's on at 240 camera system that has roughly 10 dvr's, controlled by one controller and is connected in a matrix manner that we r not familiar with. Basically it was a simple remove and replace type of install. The new cameras would be the bosch i300 x26 zoom. The reason for us declinig the job was because the previous installer put in 2 of these cameras and had a nightmare installing them and they still dont have full control of the cameras. This is an old system that has grown over time and kinda been patched together. We are growing but are growing due to our good reputation on the work we do. I didnt want to get stuck at this install not really fully sure on how to trouble shoot thru this install and damage our reputation on being over our head at this location. What would u guys have done? Would u have taken it and leanred frommur mistakes or was i better off turning it down?

We are looking at purchasing our first cctv camera tester. We have lloked at acouple at a couple of models, but we arent sure which to go with. What do u guys think of the Byte Brothers Cctv handle held tester. It seems to be a decent tester and installation device at a reasonable price. Up until now we have staged everything before we got to site or where the dvr was located. But this method doesnt always work and we are looking at one of these types of devices to help in our installs. What r u guys using and what do u recommend?

As already stated i would make sure you use direct burial cable, because no matter how well u seal the joints, sooner or later u will get moister in there and regular cat5 pvc will not do well in time while sitting in water or moister. We do a lot of trenching for fiber and ethernet networks. What we have found is a must also is laying your tape/identifier about 1 ft above your pipe to warn anyone in the future trenching that they are trenching to close to your pipe/path. We also have above ground markers identifing our path for added measurers.

funny to see how so many people jump to conclusions and don't bother reading the initial posts all the way thru. Tom and Rory are right, it seems the power supply is not putting out the correct amps even though it is showing the correct voltage. I have purchased a AC power supply for these far runs to correct the problem. Now to answer some of the other questions about this install. My distributor for this cable tested this cable with another tester and it is a BAD REEL of cable. It seems they got it from a cable liquidator and it was liquidated for a reason. I told him he will have to reimburse me for this cable and time spent trouble shooting, which will be taken out of my Net30 payment with them. As for the splice. This splice is needed. I wish I could run the cable the additional 150ft from where the splice is, but to do so is to hard and a splice works fine. I had to run the cable over a live milk cartoon tramway that never shuts down and they do not want any particals falling into the milk cartons from pulling this cable. So what I did was throw it over the tramway, splice it thru a hole we made in a wall 25ft up in the ceiling where not scissor lift or ladder fits. Could we have run the full run. Yes we could have, but the amount of time it would have taken and the possibilities of containmating the milk cartons was to great, so a splice is what we decided on. Call it lazy, I call it getting it done in a manner that suites the live enviorment we are in with the specifications of our customer and keeping it within the alloted time frame (that has been blown up) to get this install taken care of within the budget that will either make money or lose money due to time mis-spent. If you where to see how the cable had to be run, you would understand. But then again maybe you wouldn't. So tomorrow we will be onsite to finish this install off and hopefully be able to submit the final invoice. Tom and Rory, check you pm's though i have some questions for both of you. Soundy you also seemed to know what you were talking about in your posts and it was what we were going thru and why we did what we did.

Oh and just incase the question is brought up. I tested the cable with a Jdsu Validator cable teste/certifier.

how many cameras are you running on your 16 output power supply. 650ft (200m) you have 12v at the camera end you also need another test. amps. your power supply is 1.2 amp per outlet .... you will not run a camera at 650ft at that amp. what type of camera are you using I have 9 cameras on that power supply. I am using digital watch dog cameras. Why would amp's cause the cable to fail its test on the tester? I dont get that at all, u dont even connect the power to the tester. The tester showed fails on the coax at 300+ feet and at 230+ feet on the spoil. Just for more info. I tested another reel already that is 1000ft whole and it passed with the same tester. The spoil is bad. Ptz i was taught to use siemese cabke and it is what i know. As far as using cat5 or cat6 with balums is concerned. I am not sure about it yet. How good is reliability? Points of failure and so forth.

the power supply is a High Power DC Wall Mount, 16 Output, 17.2amp power supply. I have 3 other cameras at the similiar distance running at 12.07 tested on my multimeter at each camera with no video problems at all on those.

I am cheap.. They use Ryobi on the field for regular day to day work.We check these drills and power equipment like every 3 months to make sure they are all accounted for. The heavier work we have Rigid, but that has to be checked out and checked back in daily!