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Well there are several companies that you can use on the DVR end. American Dynamics (of course) Indigovision (pretty good) Innotech (only their enterprise edition for gaming, but it is great) GE (not crazy about them) DM (average) On the camera end any quality PTZ with Pelco D, don't look at price but overall quality of the equipment and support.

Ok I do have a question, in relation to the loading/unlading area of the hotel, where is the location of the inspection area? As previously mentioned, if this is going to be at the lobby or loading area of the hotel, this task will be more for the fact of doing something but will have little effectivity as most IED will be detonated upon reaching those areas. This means that for there to be an effective inspection, the inspection needs to be done further from the main building so there will be time for hotel security personnel to review the images and make a determination. IMHO Assuming that the inspection location is away from the building and that security personnel will be able to detect IED's appropriately. What will be needed are some mega pixel cameras (facing directly up) that are compatible with the immervision lens. This lens will allow a full 360 degree view in the undercarriage witn no barrel distortion so that security personnel can actually zoom in after the vehicle has passed and make determinations. Due to the closeness between the ground and the undercarriage of the vehicle a 2 mega pixel camera should suffice. Please see the lens info here: http://www.immervision.com/en/security/ I hope this helps. Also note as previosly mentioned, undercarriage IED's are usually small devices i.e. pipe-bombs and such. For stronger more sufisticated devices the trunk of the vehicle is usually used which wouldn't have anything detectable on the underside of the vehicle. The only way to combat these larger devices be using MP camera to view the driver, with trained personnel who will hopefully detect microexpressions of stress on the drivers face which may warrant further investigation. Counter-terrorism is a very specialized field which is on a constant evolution due to the fact that when security professionals come up with a detection system, then another system is improvised or used. This is why it is imperative that hotel and larger organizations attain consultation from firms strong in this field to design solutions rather than use integrators alone. It is cheaper, but to truly provide a solution their are many variable that need to be looked at and an indepth security assessment is the only way to find out exactly what is needed.

Between the limiting space in some jobs for cable placing to old failed wiring the ground loop issues are plenty. Depending on the application and distance there are several ways to eliminate the problem. For long distances over 1000 feet to 4,500 feet you can use active transmitters and receivers. Though there are plenty try using NTX or other quality ones. For shorter distances there is a unique solution by Innotech Security. They transmit power, video and OSD controls through CAT5 which eliminates ground loop issues along with giving distances from 0-1,000 feet. The solutions are built into their cameras.

Last I will write on my identity which has absolutely nothing to do with this equipment. My name is Alberto Laso (sorry typo previously) the alasl01 was something yahoo recommended years ago and I still use it. My dad was a Jr and so on (as far as the first) and no I am not a MR. Howell. Now going back to the subject at hand which was the equipment. People arguing origin of equipment without even seeing one in person. It is so odd, that some would be so sure of themselves to give something a label without knowing anything about a company or getting one of their products and check it out. It appears that those that are doing this are more concerned with putting down a competitor than actually researching a new company. Next you will say is that Arecont and Lumenera are chinese products? I use these guys mega pixel cameras and speak highly of them too. Are they some chinese knock-off too? Or am I an employee of them? In fact I use these mega pixel cameras with the Innotech Hybrid cause it can handle mega pixel cameras up to a 9 mp resolution. Is it that you are manufacturers more concerned in competition?

Alberto Laslo the 1st and yes their National Sales Manager is Luis Alas and their Latin American Sales Manager is; Luis Morato Co-CEO's Moshe Luski and Devin (not sure of the last name as I don't deal with them) Anything else?

It is interesting that those that know nothing about me or my company are accusing me of working for Innotech Security. My Employer/Company: Veranda Technical Consulting, Inc. Feel free to research; www.sunbiz.org Is a woman owned small business, providing security and technical consultation to US DoD and other federal governmental agencies. It is registered in the CCR. What I finde very interesting is that those accusing me of working for them aren't stating where and whom they work for. The reason I state this is again, if there are any parts of these systems that were either Chinese or Taiwanese this equipment could not be sold to these agencies. As per GSA guidelines they inspect all equipment prior to adding to a specific schedule. For those that understand this, these lines have been added to schedule 17 and 84 in varous comapnies GSA schedules. Now as far as Korean and Japanese parts they do have some i.e Sony Chips etc... Nuuo? not a chance its from Tw.

Well, they have a great money back guarantee. They put their money where their mouth is, now you can too. Order their machine if it is not what they state it is, return it for a full refund. They will send demo's at no charge but only to large companies i.e. NAPCO, STANLEY, NISCAYAH which they are working with. If you are at those levels then they most likely will. If not do an outright purchase, its as they say here in the US a risk free trial.

I just wrote on another thread about these guys. I have been in this industry as a consultant since I retired from the US Federal Service a few years ago. I have gone through several "manufacturers" meaning bringing stuf frm abroad and slapping their name on it and calling themselves manufacturers. These guys are different, they actually do their own R&D design some of the equipment from the chip level. I didn't realize the knowledge base these guys had till I spoke to their Chief Engineer and Co-CEO and realized these guys are real manufacturers. Though some of the equipment is just assembly of parts in cost effective ways w/o sacrificing quality, most of their lead technology, their Hybrid and Analog CAT5 Solutions are actually innovative technologies and not the compiling of existing technologies. As such their equipment is US GSA approved which is important to me as I sell to gov't Contractors. These means nothing Chinese or Taiwanese.

As a Security Consultant in the Miami I have been using various products since I departed from my previous government career. In this time I have used various systems, Geovision, Dedicated Micros, Digital Watchdog and various others. Recently a integrator friend introduced me to a relatively new company Innotech Security. Now these guys are not new, the design engineer and Co-CEO's previously ran a large public video surveillance company and formed together to form a true manufacturer. In the last 6 months I have gone from using various products to now exclusively using theirs. Not only because I have had outstanding experience with them but also, as a government consultant I sometimes need specially designed equipment that previously I could not get with any one. You see, most other company's IC Realtime, those I mentioned before and even Mace actually just get their stuff from overseas suppliers and put their names on it. These guys actually design their equipment and build most of it, of course some is assembled overseas just because of cost but for the most part they do everything. Recently I put information in here about their Hybrid DVR and people who have neither heard of them or used their equipment started labeling their machines as from Nuuo or others. Unless you actually have a machine to touch and work with it is impossible to label something and I assure you that though many of us have been in the industry for many years, every now and then a company comes along that actually is totally different that what everyone is used to or expects. All I ask is do not label or say what the equipment is or isn't until you actually contact them and find out for yourself. Lastly, let us all remember that we have all seen equipment look identical on paper yet be totally different. The industry is due for some changes and companies like Innotech, Pixim, Arecont and a few others are the real deal and coming up with new and innovative technologies for the industry. Let's take in the information and gather information and ask questions as to what a company may be up to, as information is power.

please contact them directly, they are a dealer direct manufacturer. write to: info@innotechsecurity.com and ask them. I know they ship to the EU all the time.

Nope, I thought so initially cause of the screen shot but its not. Totally different software, not sure from where.

This is one of the best I have ever used: 16 Channel Real Time @ D1 and can handle IP Cameras w/ 9Mega Pixel Resolution Built in analytics i.e missing objects, people & vehicle counting and perimeter settings. The Innotech EXDV16HYD www.innotechsecurity.com Best of all is the pricing: $2,800

Well that is the best part... These guys gave me amazing prices. I got the high-end 580TVL vandal dome with color@night and autofocus varifocal and they came in about 45% lower than Speco's 520TVL. That is why I went with them... BTW I hope you don't mind I gave their guys you info, cause they can answer your questions better than I ever could.

These cameras are; As it was explained to me their system does use all the pairs withing the CAT5 and also solves the ground loop issue and also does the communication/decoding of the OSD data. The chip performs various functions and it is not a balun that is specifically why there is a patent pending. But if you have any other questions just call them, they are great and love to talk about it and their Chief Engineer is a braniac that actually designs all their stuff... Like I said before, I have dealt with a bunch of "manufacturers" (nothing more than bringing stuff from abroad and calling it theirs) these guys are at the PELCO, PANASONIC Manufacturing levels as far as quality, but small enough to be personal still. If you visit them they will show you their assembly areas and their R&D division. I did and they went through the process showing me and explaining everything as my cameras were built. This actual new technology, they will even share their patent pending number so folks can investigate it themselves.

In comparison to Geovision hands down they are much better and the pricing is sooo much better. These guys are dealer direct so they are giving us better pricing than if we had to go through a distributor. As far as how long? When I spoke to their sales people they said I believe 10+ years. They used to be 2 companies (one of which I used to buy from) Securetek, the other one was Microtech... Both got bought by a public company then the two owners got together to form this one... What I really liked about them is that if I need something truly customized whether software or even hardware they actually designed and build these units in their manufacturing center and have engineers doing R&D. I used to use IC Realtime and a few others Geovision, digital watchdog and indigo vision. With IC, help was minimal come to find out they import stuff from all over and slap their name on it. They have a couple of tech and one wanna be head tech (not even engineer) that can only do some minor things. Digital watchdog forget about it, import from China and also slapping theirname on it and lastly indigo, great but just like geo if you want customization you gotta buy the SDK and figure it out. These guys will actually do everything including hardware monds, and their name isn't on anything.. If you like they will put yours label name on the system or box.

One of the things I forgot to mention is that this system allows you to do drops as far as 1000 feet. They state in theor documentation up to 750, we piped under a lake at 1050 ft and works like a charm... It has something to do with the power control its not a balun or they wouldn't have a patent pending on the technology. Also remember, the remote access to the OSD inside the camera? I have been in this industry for years and have never seen this... It just saved me a bunch of time. Field of view focus and close it up... Everything else was done remotely through the DVR... And the cameras come with some great presets for ultra-low light. So it was a breeze.

I found these guys and they came up with an awesome solution. THeir cameras do not use baluns, in fact the CAT5 connects directly to the camera they designed (apparently they have a patent pending on this technology). The best part is that unlike a balun, these DSP (analog) cameras in addition to transmitting video over CAT5 it also send power and remote access to the internal OSD of their cameras. This allows you to control AGWC and all internal features in the camera are to be controlled from the DVR's PTZ function. They have DCR's that can connect with the CAT5 but the also have a CAT5 to BNC converter that allows these cameras to be used with any DVR. GUYS THIS IS AWESOME... CHEAPER INSTALLS LESS TIME ON SITE AND NEVER HAVING TO GO BACK TO A JOB SITE TO ADJUST CAMERAS. Check them out: www.innotechsecurity.com Go To Products then CAT5 Cameras.

http://innotechsecurity.com/products_details_hybrid.php I just got one of these machines for one of my clients and its amazing. Not only can it handle up to a 9 mega pixel resolution cameras (up to 8 cameras of 9 mega pixel each on a 16 channel machine, though I only use 4 of the 5 mega pixel cameras) it also has very functional analytics. I found these guys a few months ago and their equipment is amazing and best of all their pricing is hard to beat for the quality they sell. Got this one at just under 2K.

You are correct to a certain extent with the aspect of issues, though I have never personally purchased anything from CCTV Outlet. As a consultant, my current issue is with the proliferation of price over quality standards that has recently been taking place. The current OEM of many inferior Chinese and Taiwanese products, with their extremely low prices... I would never recomend a client to use a vandal proof dome that didn't have a clear covering that was't of carbon fibre. No matter how good a plastic is ued it will be no match to a aluminum bat. Before recommending any brand to a client I put the system through its paces. In addition, I look at the RMA and many other features. Most importantly; with the current quality available in the market I would never recommend a client to ever go below a 520 resolution. Ut is imperative the integrators learn to educate their clients as if that is the route that a client will go, it has no difference to the Q See DVRs and other systems available at your local Costco. My recommendation is find quality "real" manufacturers rather than those just getting stuff from some factories in China with minimal QC/QA which will assuredly have high RMA's, sometimes as high as 20%. Also look at the overall quality of the iris on a camera, if its outside are you going to need to replace it in 6mo to a year? On your DVR's what makes it a good one? Any DVR can store information, what about variance in recording rates verses display, ease of use , scalability and available analytics even for embedded DVR's/ That is the difference between a $400 dolar 16 channel and a $1800, price isn't always better, but be aware enough to aske why does it cost more, usually there is a reason.

OK, I confirmed that the Innotech Security 3rd Generation Pro Plus Series DVR's are 3G capable. These DVR's are networkable and have many great features. The app will work with Blackberry's as well as iPhones and allows you to control PTZ's from your phone. It seems to be an awesome but for unders 2K for a 16 Cahnnel.

CaptainJack, I would love to give you some information on resolution and other factors. Please IM me with your email and I will be glad to assist. We are a manufacturer of both "analog" and IP cameras and can provide info on what cameras are best suited for what functions. In fact working on an article about that CCTV and IP both have a place in today's market the questions come down to needs versus budget. Most importantly having realistic expectations about the system.

CaptainJack, Seeing the pictures I can tell you there is little you will be able to do get a clearer image. You camera is a 480 add that to a night application and your actual resolution is around 420 at best. There is little that can be done. There are a couple of options; 1- Analog solution; For this use a higher resolution camera for the general area and add an inexpensive tag reading camera so you can have a record of both. This solution from a manufacturer can run about $400 total for both cameras. 2- IP Solution; This would be the highest level of resolution. You could use a 3 or 5 mega pixel camera that you could zoom in after the fact an getting the data you need. I assure a 5 MP camera with an IR cut filter would give you the night time application to get the info you need. Cost a would a little more than double and you would need to use an NVR. Just some ideas.

We are a manufacturer of primarily analog, but have a 5MP cameras with IR cut filter that allows up to .02Lux which is pretty good in comparison to most. But you give up FPS at its fullest resolution. As in everything its a give and take.

Sorry CaptainJack, the previous was the best options. Unfortunately as was mentioned if the camera doesn't have the ability to pick up the information all you will get by making the image larger is a pixelated picture. What resolution is the camera you are using, the lens and the disctance with that information I can give you an idea if camera will be able to pick up the information before spending too much time and trying to adjust a picture that can't be focused any higher. *** Remember if you want to zoom-in after the fact mega pixel is the only way to go***

Scorpion not sure if you were aware CCTV Outlet is the manufacturer of eclipse. Not that they are bad, but overall poor quality systems. Maybe for someone like you that is just starting it may be a line to get into... There are several lines but do your homework. With the way the market is today, many integrators have the opportunity to get their equipment directly from a manufacturer and get a good quality system at a fair price. Remember everything is relative, don't expect to get a great camera for $40 bucks... I work with many integrators, those that have stuck to quality over cost have actually seen an increase in business to those that just go for the lowest cost system. You need to understand the systems that you will install and not just go by a spec sheet. If you did, you could never see why a $200 camera is better than a $40 camera. Back to setting up your business, some manufacturers will work with you to help build your business and who know's within a few years can even be a distributor yourself. What is going to set you apart is your integrity.