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I just hate hate hate 98 and ME... my machine is overclocked at 3.5 ghz with 1 gig in ram. It's smoking fast with XP...

I want to know what ports you need to open on your router for the Geovision 6.0 software to stream video over the web? I have a router and need to know how many ports and which ones the software uses.. and also can you change these ports? also, my ISP blocks running any servers on port 80 so I need to verify that the Geovision software DOES NOT need to use port 80 for uploading of it's live video streams...

and what do you guys think BETTER quality picture comes out of... a Geovision card or a high end stand alone DVR system? I know different compression methods have different quality video but lets say if you were using MPEG2 or MPEG4 compression on EITHER one. And why would one be better than the other? If I had to guess, I would think the computer using the Geovision card would be a better picture since you have much more processing power, but I am not sure. The reason I ask, is because one DVR resaller was telling me that I shouldn't waste my money on a DVR capture card for a computer because the images will not be as good as as standalone system. So basically by buying a high end good quality camera say at 480 Lines of resolution in color using a Sony SuperHad EXview 1/3" CCD, a standalone DVR would give me a much better picture than the computer would give me using the DVR capture card for the computer. What do you guys thinK? I am sure you have seen both systems and could compare the picture quality between them..

so are you saying maybe I should wait til next month to see what's out there before buying a Geovision card? cause there might be something better?

If I brought the GV-800 4 port card and I ONLY hooked up 1 camera to the card for now, would that 1 camera be caputuring at the full 120 FPS NTSC of the card? Or will the card still only limit the one camera to 30 FPS NTSC since that's what the human eye sees are normal full motion? What would be the advantages/disadvantages of capturing at more than 30 FPS NTSC? And how would this affect remote viewing over the web? Would the file sizes be MUCH larger for viewing over the web IF I was capturing at 120 FPS on 1 camera locally?

Who is coming out with the whole new set of DVR remote software? geovision?

windows XP... ME is garbage.. lol

that link is running the version 6 Geovision software, worked fine for me.

exaclty the software, then the price difference between a 4 channel GV-800 and a 8 channel GV-800 SHOULDN'T be $300 US. If it's using the same exact software, then the card shouldn't vary this much in price in my opinion.. hey by the way, that link you gave, do you know what setup they have? what card are they using? and how many cameras in total are they running. By comparrison, what are you guys getting FPS through the multi-view mode on that link.. When viewing ALL 12 cameras at once, I am getting about 2-3 FPS per camera. What is weird is that the cameras which are facing a wall or something where the image isn't changing, I am getting like 6 FPS on those cameras... you know why? Then when I view say just the first 4 cameras, I get about 3-7 FPS per camera. So I guess this means that the less cameras you are viewing at once, the higher the FPS speed for those cameras will be.

yeah I just don't get it why you need such an expensive card just to view real time video at 30 FPS on multiple cameras at once. Damn, even my Logitech webcams, I can view at a full 30 FPS a couple of them at once via USB... you would think that these pro line cameras would be even better...

yeah I really don't know much about stand alone dvr's.. only getting into the computer systems..

yeah, I see what you are saying about not being sent to the chip first, but still it just dosn't seem possible to me that you can stream at anything faster than you can capture locally with. Here is a test, if you are sitting infront of your LOCAL pc with the cameras attached to it. And you open up the local installed Geovision software. Let's say for instance you have a GV-600 card with 4 cameras attached. So you are getting at most 7.5 FPS NTSC per camera. Now when you look at these cameras locally on your pc screen through the software, you are only seeing 7.5 FPS per camera, so the cameras are not giving you a real-time picture because the card can't handle that speed. But now you go on the net and pull up the cameras. It would BLOW my mind if you could see these same 4 cameras through the net at a speed greater than 7.5 FPS per camera.. it just wouldn't make sense to me how you could view over the net FASTER than you could view sitting in front of the local computer through the software...

okay thanks for the explanation, but let me clear something up.. you said that you can stream at whatever your bandwidth can handle and the capture rate will not limit that. So lets say, looking at the GV-600 card, the specs say the following: Screen display rate: 30 fps/NTSC, 25fps/PAL Record rate: 30fps/NTSC,25fps/PAL Playback rate: 30fps/NTSC, 25fps/PAL So now, assuming you have all 4 cameras connected at one time. You will be getting 7.5 FPS for each camera. But now lets say you view this remotely, there is NO POSSIBLE way that you can be streaming video over the internet at anything more than 7.5 FPS per camera because that is the fastest that the local video is being captured at. It doesn't matter if you have a T3 Up and Down connection, you will only get 7.5 FPS per camera at MOST because that is what the camera is being captured at locally. This is how I understand it, and this makes sense to me, so are you saying what I explained above is not true? are you saying that even though LOCALLY I am only capturing at 7.5 FPS per camera that I may still be able to stream and view over the internet at a speed GREATER than 7.5 FPS per camera? if this is what you mean, then I am just confused as to how this could even be possible. If while sitting infront of my LOCAL pc where the cameras are attached and I can only view the 4 cameras at 7.5 FPS per camera using the LOCAL software, then how in the world would I be able to view these same cameras over the internet at a speed greater than 7.5 FPS.. you see..

well in the Geovision software, version 6.0 through the multiview mode, you can click on a camera and it will tell you what your current FPS is... if the local camera is only being recorded at 7 FPS cause that's the most your card can do, will that slow down the speed at which you see it over the internet in comparrison to if you had a 30 FPS card?

okay, and that is the question I am trying to get an answer to.. over the net, with a Cable Modem what do you think my MAX FPS will be? I have a cable modem where I will be running the software. I want to know this because lets say I can only get about 7 FPS at the most through the internet, then what is the point in my getting something like the GV-800 that does 30 FPS per camera if I can't utilize this speed over the internet? you see my point..

so are you guys saying that it doesn't matter if I get a GV-800 or a GV-250, because over the internet they will both be the same FPS speed? So does this mean that over the internet, I won't get more than like 5-7 FPS with a cable modem?

how do you think that a cable modem would compare to that?

thanks... do you know what internet speed the first camera is connected at?

yes, that's what I am asking, can the software be ran on different ports besides port 80?

yes but can that port 80 be changed? my isp blocks port 80 so if it HAS to run on port 80, I won't be able to view it over the web..

how do you know they are owned by WiseMicro..? I thought you are a Geovision distributor?

actually if you look at that site, they have the GV-250 2 channel for: $106. Could I buy 2 of these and will they both work with the ONE software application? cause that would give me more FPS for the money if I brought 2 of these versus getting one of the GV600 4 channels. 1 x GV-600 4 channel = 7.5 FPS per camera 2 x GV-250 2 channel = 10 FPS per camera but I need to make sure I can put multiple GV-250's in one system and use mutliples with ONE software application ya know.

what do you think is the most cost effective? you think getting a GV-800 4 channel is worthless? or should I get like an 600 4 channel instead? I don't know if I need that high a frame rate?

hey hey.. check this out.. the LOWEST prices I have found online for GeoVision cards.. http://www.turbocctv.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=TC&Category_Code=VCC

okay, I have some things to say... 1.) this forum is annoying me because it is not emailing me replies to my topic subscriptions... It was, now it isn't.. what the hell is going on.. 2.) Anything below Windowx 2000/XP is completely MISERABLE.. and you should definately get off of it. ME was the biggest piece of $&^*&(&^ I ever saw. 3.) Okay, is there anybody in here who is a distributor of Geovision. I have decided to go with EITHER... the GV-250 or the GV-600 depending on prices. Could somebody please let me know their prices?