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I originally planned to use NetvisionDVR. They bundle their Software together with the camera from Dahua and it only cost a little more like that. The reason why I am looking for other NVR Software is because there are some limitations with Netvision. Netvision has a controller, but (besides that it is ugly) it can only control the main monitor of the NVR. I am planning a video wall with 4 - 6 screens attached to the NVR and then 2 additional spot screens. The Dahua NVR also looks very limited on multi monitor setup. I will probably just buy 1 camera and 1 controller and then I have to do some testing. I can post some videos then.

Exactly my point, I have seen the same videos and it looks convincing. The camera has 2 different IR LEDs, one side is wide angle and the other is narrow angle and only turns on when you zoom. I only have to cover 68 meters and for this it should do.

Okay guys, I am going to give you much more data, so you can help me better. The budget is not fixed. I have been asked to design a system and I am in early planning phase. If the budget that I provide is too large, they will ask me to cut it or make a new one. There is no risk that I might lose this project. I can check out as many possibilities as I want. This will be my first fully IP system and I want to do everything right. I have maybe 1 month for the planning and to have an acceptable budget. The CCTV cameras will be viewed in the local Security office. 4 - 6 screens will be used for viewing. 2 spot screens should be extra and I need a joystick for the PTZ that works well. I have inspected the property. It is very dark at night. Lighting up the whole area with IR seems overkill, but could be done. With 4 Raymax 300 I could light it up, but the price of this is around 1000 GBP each. Therefore I thought of PTZ that have IR integrated. If you think this is a stupid idea, let me know. I chose 1,3 MP to get better results at night. 4 - 5 PTZ will be outside. Maybe 3 fixed cameras outside and then 10 - 12 domes inside. All inside domes should have IR for the night, so the light can be turned off without loosing the picture. These cameras will show doors, corridors or offices. Nothing large or fancy needed. I thought of 1.3 MP, because it cost only a few bucks more than D1. I will check if I can find a picture of the property, so you know what I am talking about. Yes, it is rather cheap , but do I get much better performance buying something expensive? Dahua is at least known to me and I have good experience with their analogue products. Hikvision has a camera that looks 100% the same, I would not be surprised if they are build in the same factory. What counts is the end result and the picture that I get on the screen. I think I will check your Blog to see if you have tested some IP PTZ...

Well cameras also have to be cost effective. What I will probably get as PTZ is this: http://www.dahuasecurity.com/English/product_info.aspx?type=344&&css=0&&id=23 Others will probably also be from Dahua or Hikvision. I don't know of any free NVR, except Zoneminder. This is not an option though. I am looking for something cost effective, but professional; something that is proven to work.

True, I admit. The question really is what he is trying to catch on that recording. Or if someone is actually going to look at this 24/7. In any case, to cover the dock area, he will need LOTS of cameras and LOTS of light if this is not there yet. It is much simpler to cover only the entrance. I still like the idea of the Thermal camera. Maybe it's no good for recognition of the ships, but I think with 2 - 3 Thermal cameras he could overview the entire area. Ships are large and even if 2 KM away, one could probably see the movements well.

This camera probably cost as much as his entire budget

If you have no light at night and this is what I am assuming here, you will have no picture. What I can see is that you have 2 choices: 1. Light up this area with floodlights or IR (probably impossible) 2. Thermal cameras (FLIR) In any case Megapixel is most probably not going to work at night and Megapixel Thermal cameras don't exist (AFAIK).

You have a taiwanese DVR from a Company that I have never heard of and a PTZ from an eBay store. I don't believe you will find any Software that works with both.

Nice video! Check this one

I will (most probably) setup my own network for the cameras. It will be cat6 gigabit standard with maximum 2 switches. There will be 16 - 20 cameras all IP based. Most are D1, but the PTZs and a few others will be 1 - 2 MP. Maybe 5 - 8 will be MP. I could also try to hook the cameras onto the existing network, which is based 100% on fiber optics. Every office has it's own fiber optic cable going to the server room. I am not planning to put the DVR into the server room though and therefore think it will be easier to biuld my own network. Besides I want to use POE and this isn't going to work with fiber optics cable.

Hi All, I am planning a job now that is probably going to be fully IP. Outside I will have some PTZ to cover the surroundings. The area around the building is dark in the night. I mean pitch black. Illuminating the whole area is a little overkill I thought and therefore wanted to go for something like this: http://www.netvisiondvr.com/Home/ProductDetails/166 The price is excellent and the specs look great. My main concern is the control. This camera seems to have no RS-485, so I assume that I have to control it over the IP protocol. The Software from Netvision is certainly able to do that and they even have a 3D joystick to connect to the DVRs. But how is the delay on such systems? Is it possible to follow people with the camera? Does anyone have experience with IP PTZ? I have seen this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI2kSaa7G20 I was very disappointed in the obvious delay when he controls the PTZ. This is what I don't want. I am used to immediate reaction from analogue PTZ and I would even consider a hybrid system if IP PTZ are not decently controllable. I am thankful for any input from someone with experience in this.

You should open a separate thread for your problem. With pictures if possible and some more data like how big the area is, how dark it is at night, your budget, etc.

Unfortunately this camera has no RS485. I guess control is only via IP protocol then and I wonder if this is a problem.

Yeah I also found out that it is from Dahua. I thought that I should take the 1,3 MP, because of better visibility at night. Of course the camera has IR, but the area where I will put it is really dark and anything to improve night vision is wanted. If there is no difference other that the amount of pixels I might go with the 2 MP version. You mean the control is not slow? When I move the joystick on the analogue PTZ that I am used to, it is instant. There is no delay at all. I can follow people and cars (if not moving too fast) with the camera. I was at a Security Exhibition last year and tried a 1080p PTZ from Dallmeier. There was no delay, but when I look at this youtube video I have the feeling that the camera moves 1/2 second after he moves the joystick and I wonder how I am supposed to move the camera precisely with such delays.

Usually there is no problem using newer mother boards. These are the tested-and-guarateed-to-work boards. I have always ignored these recommendations and bought whatever mother board I wanted. Only once I had a problem with a mother board that didn't seem to like the DVR card, but on this install it turned out that using another HDD for the OS handled the problem.

There is no image that I can see. I have 2 comart PC DVRs that send the cameras over internet, so I might be able to help you.

Hi guys, Well, this didn't fit anywhere so I decided to put it here. I have to install a Motorola MC2100 UHF Base Station. The UHF antenna exists already on the roof. The Base Station is in an office in the Basement. What cable do I use to connect the two? I have seen RG59, RG6 and RG213 being used for that. The distance from the Basement to the roof is large (50 - 60m). What cable is best for that? Thanks!

The connectors are BNC and the install where the base station came from used RG213. I just wasn't sure if it is the right type of cable. I think I will just get RG213 for the new install. The hard-line is much too expensive.

The Base station has 35 Watts output. I honestly never understood the Ohm value on coax cable. What is it for? Why do I need 50 Ohm cable? What type of cable is rf cable? Hardline looks okay, but I have never seen it in Europe. Must google some more... its really expensive though.

I am looking for a good PTZ camera for day and night. I only have personal experience with the GE/Kalatel Cyberdome and a Samsung PTZ from 2-3 years ago (Don't know the exact model). The location where the PTZ is supposed to go is a well lit Street in the city. Between 4-5 AM it is really dark, because Street lights are turned off. The CyberDome was the first PTZ in that spot and the quality was good. Sometimes it was hard to see in shadows when the sun was shining. Everything in the shadow had very little contrast.The Samsung (now in that spot) is better at that. I think it has WDR, BUT the Samsung really sucks at low light. It can give a good picture, but the auto focus takes forever to get a decent focus - sometimes it doesn't get a good focus at all. Now I would like to know PTZ that: - work well in low light - have a good and FAST auto focus that also works in low light - have WDR - have Kalatel or Pelco D protocol

I saw that one in a thread today, it was actually the inspiration to start this thread Do you have personal experience with it? How is the low light focus? Do you have a video that you could upload?

Open your DVR and check the soldering of the BNC sockets. This is usually the problem. If they are fine, it is probably nothing you can fix yourself. Replace the DVR if you still have warranty.

That's right, you have been very helpful, but nothing seems to work and as someone stated "it's probably bad software" and I can't find other software that will work with my DVR capture card, so I have no choice but to try another route, problem is I have spent money on hardware that I would like to use. As for the ISP I have my email setup and working through them if I use Outlook Express, and I have carried all the information to IDVR4000 to no avail. Thank you very much, your patience is to be commended. God bless you Jim But have you actually gotten your ISP's SMTP and tried it with that one?

True, but it is also true that it doesn't happen when you use coax instead. In my experiance also brand cameras use a common ground sometimes, especially IR cameras and dome cameras. I prefer to use separate PSU instead of limiting myself to cameras that have dual voltage.

Funny that you mention Dahua now. I just bought one a few weeks ago and was very pleased with the performance. It works just as well as the Hikvision cards. I didn't notice any difference in quality. The prices of Dahua are better though, much better.