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That will only cause you more problems NO NVIDIA OR AMD these will not run stable INTEL 945G motherboard INTEL CPU and ATI VIDEO. I have built over 100 dvr's in this config that are stable with no problems. If you vary from this config you are going to have problems. 1.LOAD OS. 2.LOAD ALL MOTHERBOARD DRIVERS. 3.INSTALL CAPTURE CARD. 4.INSTALL EYEMAX SOFTWARE. 5.SETUP DVR. Use the right motherboard cpu video card ATI 7000 ATI 9000 and follow the above 1-5 and you should have no problems.

We can not list anything other than MSRP in the fourm but a $1000.00 MSRP DVR would be the very bottem price I would say but then again the price of a system should be built around what you want to protect. The higher the price of the property the better the dvr. How long do you want to store data. Most jobs 6 to 7 frames per second will do just fine.

The problem you are having is the eyemax cards and software are very picky about the hardware (motherboard) you use intel chipset with intel video or ati video only. Only the client is vista ready not the server software. This is most likely caused by the 64 bit vista software. Intel CPU only intel 945g motherboard I have not tried a newer motherboard. List what hardware you used also xp home will work just fine for the OS.

Sounds like you have a jpeg2000 dvr have you questioned the installing dealer, did you pay for this system before you bought it, also not very many dvr's support the mac some the iphone but thats about it, did you tell the installer you wanted to veiw it on the mac or did you just think everything works on a mac. Not taking up for the installer but did you set a dollar limit on the system because this is a entry level system if it is a jpeg2000 if you want mac support it will be very expensive as not many support the mac. Does the dealer have a nice store with demos or work out of his house.

Not true I have video on a 24 inch lcd monitor in digital you have to have ATI video card with hardware accelleration set to a lower setting 25 to 50 % does not like geovision cards.

NEC code states 2 inches but it is a recomended that you stay 12 inches away and cross AC power at 90 degree angles also remember the larger the current draw on the AC wire the larger the inductive field around the wire.

This is what we use and have been very happy. Very stable and exspandable. http://www.galaxysys.com/index.php?tpl=hardware/600/600

Soundy also if he is in the USA he will have to follow NEC (National Electrical Code). I am not at my book at work so I am using brain cells but I think it is 3 inches seperation and you can not tie to the 120 volt or higher AC conduit. Thats for any low voltage wire and high voltage AC.

I have not used an ICREALTIME equipment but several here have and can give you all the info you need.

Camera A I have tested in the office and is not bad as a entry level camera. Also night vision as stated about 1/2 listed from my testing. Camera B states IR's at 20 degrees and 45 degrees offset. This camera I have not seen or used. Both cameras were found on google search and sold in the US.

From a real world you can count on 1/2 the distance that is stated in the Infrared Distance 80 feet will work about 40 feet most of the time. As for the specs I see very little difference B has a little more zoom. If you do not mind you could list brand and model number someone may have tried them and could tell you how they worked for them. The IR's have a projection pattern could be wide or tight which may not be know unless you have used that camera before. Some cheaper IR cameras also are built with what ever parts are on hand at the time of being built so they do not perform the same from camera to camera. You are doing the right thing by asking as many questions you can so you get the best system for your money. Also remember wide angle lets you see more the person in the view will not be as clear as 2 times the cameras zoomed in. 4 wide does not have the same clearity as 8 zoomed in looking at the same area.

Knowing what IP cameras where there before and now will help both you and us I have only delt with AXIS IP cameras and ONSSI NETDVMS software and they are at a jail. I can only speak for us but we and our customer were both very happy with this setup. Others can give you more on other brands. What is the customers expectations what do they want this will have a lot to do with what needs to be put in. Look at this post http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16935 I think it will help you alot.

This is the last reply on this. Lets say the camera is designed to work on 24 volts ac and you use 22-2 wire for power and you run the 22-2 500 foot the camera draws 2 amps under normal conditions but when you try to run the camera at 500 foot on the 22-2 the voltage at the camera will drop by a large amount this is not the true figures just an example at 500 foot the voltage say is now 18 volts and the current is 2.5 amps now if your camera still works it is getting hotter because of ohms law now that the camera is hotter it will not live as long. Ohms law proves as voltage drops current goes up and when current goes up so does heat. It is true that if a camera draws 2 amps that is all it will draw at the stated voltage but you drop the voltage and the camera will draw more amps. Go buy you a nice variable power supply and nice new camera take your volt ohm meter set the power to 12 volts dc and check the current draw and then drop the voltage to 10 dc and check your current it will be higher now you have just tested the camera like it was run on wire to small and to long. http://www.pelco.com/support/videosecbasics/voltdropchart.pdf

The boss looked at several and setteled on ONSSI as they had dealers that had done several jails and this was a jail and seamed to do what we needed with easy exspansion to double or triple in size in the future. Plus our axis distributor recomended it. Nice package deal 50 axis ip's and netdvms software package.

Like rory said cameras with IR in the daytime draw say 1 amp current at night when the IR comes on it draws 2 amps of current. The size of the wire the length of wire and the voltage all come into play whether they camera will work or not also if the voltage drops to much and the current rises to much it will kill the camera. 100 foot of conduit cost $35.00 and say 100 foot of 18-4 cost $5.00 that is still cheaper than burning up 1 camera plus my time to go back to the site fix it and not bill the customer. It is basic electronics if the camera draws 2 amps and has a 3 amp power supply changing to a 5 amp power supply will help the problem. You have to use the proper gauge wire for the voltage and current and length or you will have problems. You will get away with less sometime but it will catch up with you in the long run. Like I said before its done right or we do not do the job. I have a very good boss its his way or we do not do it and its been that way for over 30 years. It is the little things to him every wire in the attic or under the house is stapled every other rafter / joist.

I might be wrong but I just went and checked again and ONSSI is IP only. http://www.onssi.com/solutions.html you can look at their site but IP solutions is all they offer that I see. NETDVMS is a server solution High end NETDVR is a server IP solution mid range PROSITE is a server IP solution mid range

That is why the customer has to have new conduit run to carry the new wire not installers fault that the job has to done by code and done proper and I have run new conduit to the many gas station upgrades we have done. The cost just has to passed on to the end user.

This has a good chance of being an IP system you will need to know several things just to add license for the mac address of each new camera not to mention user names and passwords for the server software This will not be as easy as swapping the cameras and as far as ONSSI they want you to goto there school before they talk to you about support. We just did a 50 camera IP job with a 20 TB server running ONSSI software and we sent 2 techs to there school just to get support from them.

To back haul 4 cameras on 1 wire with remote located power or power run on a larger wire like running 2 wires not 5 wires or more. Soundy thats why I went to school and have to have a license to work in this industry. I guess all the books teachers and class room teachings are wrong and you are not. I might not have proper grammer as you say but I have the education and industry standards in the help I offer. I have seen job sites that we have been called to that others had installed that had an ac hum on the video that was run on cat 5. The solution to this problem was to pull new 18-4 wire to run the power on it and if I have to half do the job I do not need the customers money. We had ruther do the job proper and let the work we do advertise for us. We do not want to be part of I guess I thought it would work.

Your standard home wireless routers are not gonna work as there speed is in data packet burst not constant through put like 5 IP cameras would generate also high dollar high end house = more exspensive equipment and not all cameras could be hidden.

What size wire did you run for power? Putting a bigger power supply in the mix will not help but moving the power closer or pulling bigger wire for power wires could solve your problem. What is the model of the cameras and specs? Look at this site fill in the info and you can see how far you can run the power on the wire you have. http://www.video-insight.com/Support/Tools/Wire-Length-Calculator.aspx

Your price is the Sam's and Costco equipment just remember they do not use the equipment they sell the hire cctv installers to use the high end IP cameras and NDVR's that cost thousands not the few hundred like the stuff they sell. You should base the security system and cctv system on the value of what they protect. Also you need to buy equipment that will work in the envirement you are going to install it in. Is this going to be hotter than the dvr will live in what about a case to keep lint dust out but still keep it cool. Now lets look at the real side of your question. 1. 8 entry level day night cameras at $ 100.00 each = $800.00 2. 1 quality power supply at $ 100.00 = $100.00 3. 8 runs of 100 foot rg6 at $ 50.00 each = $400.00 4. 1 entry level DVR at $ 800.00 = $800.00 5. 1 17 inch LCD monitor at $ 150.00 = $150.00 ENTRY LEVEL SYSTEM TOTAL COST =$2250.00 And this does not include labor to install the equipment. And this is entry level you buy it online and ebay if you are lucky the theif will not steal the cctv equipment or will walk up and stare at the camera because this will be lucky to guess who the person is at 30 feet at in good light not to mention night or dark.

You can pull an 80 foot moble home trailer with a S10 pickup truck also but it is not recomended look at the link to the tool I posted and yes if you want to change to 24 volt ac if your camera will work with it or you can just keep raising the the voltage until it works and risk burning up the camera then by all means try it just remember you can run your 110 volt air conditioner on a 50 foot extension cord but you run a high risk of setting your house on fire. Just remember voltage drops current goes up generates heat over time could result in a fire then you have to go to court and justify why you did not follow standards in this sue happy world. 24 volts ac 22 gauge wire 500 mil 149 feet 12 volts dc 22 gauge wire 500 mil 74 feet AC on your cate 5 can cause ac hum, ground loops and a world of other problems and double the wire might help the current but not the possible other problems.

CAT 5 wire 24 or 26 gauge wire is not suitable for powering analog cctv cameras. This where proper training pays off you have voltage drop in wire the more the voltage drop the higher the current draw of the camera the more the camera draws the more heat is generated thus doing damage to the cameras. Look at this site you will need to know the current draw of the camera the size wire cate 5 being 24 or 26 and the camera voltage it will tell you the max distance you can run example is 12 volts dc 24 gauge wire 500 milliamps is 47 feet total length each camera pulls about 500 mil so 1000 mil or 1 amp is 20 feet. http://www.video-insight.com/Support/Tools/Wire-Length-Calculator.aspx

CAT 5 wire is not a good choice for power it is to small in GA. Have you looked into remote power in the attic where the CAT 5 is run or pull a 18-4 power both cameras and have 2 spare pairs of wire.