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how about http://www.clarion.com/xe/en/products/2009/surround_sight/camera/CC2002E/xe-en-product-sc_1172418811828.html CC2002e HEAVY-DUTY COLOUR CCD CAMERA (NARROW ANGLE / MIRROR IMAGE) i've seen a few older models on imported trucks.
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gee give the poor guy some credit, any monkey can put a box back together. they only leak when they don't have any seals to start with. i don't see you complaining about all the guys pulling apart water proof box camera housings to fit cameras in. please don't start the "its fitted to........" speech. i've been a trademan way too long for that one. at the end of the day, wide angle lens camera viewed on a small screen is very hard to drive with. quality of picture is not all that important compared to angle of view. as long as he knows whats hes in for, then its up to him. if a bullet cam didn't stick out so much, a water proof adjustable bullet cam would be the answer.
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its a sharp chipset, how high spec can it be ??? sure hes asking for a reversing camera, but his use is outside what the industry can be bothered making. maybe its a kiwi thing. if they don't make it, build it ! i would rather he know what hes getting in for rather than just get pawned off with what ever is on the shelf and end up being disappointed. especially if he picks the right camera, he can simply pop the cover off and swap the lens to something that suits his needs. find the solution for the customer not make the customer fit the solution
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because the wheel doesn't fit. what are you going to see with the image distortion, poor distance perspective, with it mounted at a distance and on a 4" screen? not enough to be worth the $$$ even for cheap one. they are generally design for seeing things like kids behind the vehicle. or backing into a tight car space. camera is usually on bumper ie close. for that use they work fine. i would also go for sony over sharp. you don't need high res, 380 will be fine, its being able to get clear view in different light thats important. one thing like about mine is being able to look into the dark garage that you can't normally see into.
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Just charge him for it. $10,000 oughta cover a course on camera basics. yeah that would sort em out. (for your info it wasn't camera orientated, i'm only an amateur at that) did i mention the ones that wanted their house wired for free because they subscribe to the network i contracted for. bloody sparkies, only interested in making a quick buck. but of course lots of industries love to sell them gear because they know it will be done badly and it will go faulty. they get to sell a 2nd lot via the repair tech. 2 sales for the one customer, so of course they are loving it
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Why? just thinking of size and location to attach it. hard to tell in the pic what that lip under the light is like. got a nice flat panel to the side of the light easy enough. good question. I'm not sure whats best. I'm just trying to imagen what its going to look like in a 4" screen. camera up high has the advantage of a better over view especially as you have some gear on the back doors but it has the disadvantage of being further away. wide angle lens will mean you won't be able to see any real distance. a camera on the bumper would be better for parking right up close to objects. what about one of the 7" screens that fit on the sun visor? or even one of the bigger reversing mirror screens?
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a lot of the box style ones you simply unscrew. they have seals etc (depending on how cheap they are made) otherwise a bit of sealant doesn't hurt biggest thing is if the camera fits inside with the new lens on. mine had packers in it which i removed to give the extra bit of room. some places list various optional lenses but that may be BS.
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those standard lens in the reversing cameras usually distort the veiw a fair bit and also makes distance hard to calculate. when i first fitted mine (3.6mm lens 1/3 sensor) it was hopeless trying to back with it. fine for seeing if a object was there (ie person etc) but being able to line up a driveway, garage door etc from 40ft away was just a joke (let alone 100yards). however very good for backing right up close to an object (ie loading dock). you can see those last few feet very well, you just can't see bugger all until you get within those last couple of feet. for a backing camera on a car bumper those lenses are fine for backing into a parking spot. however when you start mounting it up high you have moved the camera 4-5ft away which puts it out of it effective range. best bet is to find something you can change the lens with, then you can adjust to suit. however the housings are usually made to fit those lens. bigger lens stick out a bit more, so you can't always get the lens to fit. some of the bullet cams are meant to be able to change lens quite easly. LED's....don't worry about it, reversing lights light it up well enough. most likely you would have to mount the camera to the top or side (bottom corner) of that light. trouble i had was getting a camera that DIDN'T reverse the picture as my screen does the reversing. http://www.viewtech.co.nz/cms/index.php?page=browse&key=/Vehicle_Systems/Cameras its not the ones i have but gives you an idea.
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1/3" sensor tho not to sure with the calc, it doesn't seam to give anything close to advertised angles even for the usual 3.6mm lens. my bad anyway, 90 degree should be 3.6mm lens.
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6mm gives you 90 degrees. thats the usual 3.6mm, vechile about 4-5ft from camera. same camera about 15ft or so. excuse the poor pics, had a system fault. 8mm lens probably around 15ft or so. but you can see down the road quite well which is what makes it so useful for reversing. the hard part is finding a reversing camera with a bigger lens. i bought the lens separate and fitted it which is why the rear pics look fairly well washed out. i still might go to a 6mm myself.
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dunno about 4" screen i have 7" and thats barely big enough. truck camera.... its just a board camera in a housing you can fasten onto a panel, same as the ebay one. they do make ones for mounting on sides of vehicles. truck ones usually come with bigger lens as they are often mounted high off the ground. you will need something like a 6mm to actually drive using the camera. also you should be able to see the number plates of tailgating traffic (not sure if you will be able to read it on a 4" screen) i tried the standard 3mm and that was hopeless. i run a 8mm but thats a bit tight for close stuff but good for looking up the driveway (or in my case reversing into buildings). 6mm should be a better compromise.
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don't worry to much with IR, your brake/reverse lights will give off more than enough light. i've got a similar sort of setup but with sony chip instead. i will probably cut the IR's off as they tend to white out the pic a bit. what sort of screen are you looking at using? what sort of use are you looking at using it for? looking for kids behind vehicle, for actually reversing up a drive without mirrors? the reason i ask is with wide angle lens you will only see short range, especially with it mounted up high and with small screens. ok for seeing kids but not their toys on the ground. also a right pain to try and reverse with. you may want to look at a truck version which has a 4-6mm lens. with those cheap ones watch the seals. my first one leaked and died.
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Cameras with large IR Leds vs standard size ones?
tweak'e replied to nsxttt's topic in Security Cameras
the big ones are higher powered and can have longer range. one advantage of the large ones is being able to fit lens which tighten the beam giving longer range. not to mention its cheaper to mount a few big led's than 84 small ones which can offset the higher cost of the larger led's. -
AVTECH 761 /785/787 and SATA hard discs with converters
tweak'e replied to jonb300's topic in Digital Video Recorders
don't forget IDE hardrives are still available. i have no idea what the size limit is on those DVR's. the only thing i can suggest is go find a ide-sata converter that supports SMART. -
which kind of cameras will be popular in the coming 2 years?
tweak'e replied to Terry_yang's topic in Security Cameras
absolutly there are always limits. non-HD camera ?? i'm just thinking of the bottom end of the market. it all depends on what the price comes out to be but you could go digital out on all existing analog cameras, then scale up to HD cameras, then you start getting into IP cameras. its all got a nice upgrade path. -
which kind of cameras will be popular in the coming 2 years?
tweak'e replied to Terry_yang's topic in Security Cameras
Then we are talking about HD-SDI cameras that what they trying to do no compression by camera transmit using coax and capture card will compress just for info standard, known as high-definition serial digital interface (HD-SDI), is standardized in SMPTE 292M; this provides a nominal data rate of 1.485 Gbit/s. off the top of my head i think coax can do it, but range is the problem. 30-60m ?? however lower grade non-HD cameras will not need that bandwidth. easly half that. mind you at the rate they are going and the rate of chip development they may have a low power, low compression, cheap chip out. cut the data rate in half. -
which kind of cameras will be popular in the coming 2 years?
tweak'e replied to Terry_yang's topic in Security Cameras
No compression ? How do u propose we deal with astronomical amount of data coming from camera ? light compression or lossless compression. easy enough to do light compression with low spec chips. yes its still high amount of data compared to mpeg4, but your not putting it through a lan so it doesn't matter. the DVR does all the converting to say mpeg4 just like an analog does now. -
which kind of cameras will be popular in the coming 2 years?
tweak'e replied to Terry_yang's topic in Security Cameras
i should add..... what i don't like about analog is you have digital chip whose output then gets converted to analog (losses some quality) goes through cable (looses more quality) then gets converted back to digital in the DVR. so why not get rid of all that analog conversion? a lot of small setups don't need IP, its going to be wired direct to DVR anyway. why use IP addys, onboard compression etc etc when you don't need it. hopefully that would allow SMALL digital cameras to replace the existing mini analogs and no losses (within reason) due to cable etc. -
i guess English is a third language, you may want to try translating software. i guess you mean..... Are cctv cameras any good at reducing crime ? yes they do but only if they produce clear enough pics to identify people. poor quality video will only show how it was done, not who did it. even fake/dummy cameras will deter some criminals but once they work out its a fake then it won't do anything. i've known criminals to even ask shop workers if the cameras are fake and even how to get goods out of the shop.
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which kind of cameras will be popular in the coming 2 years?
tweak'e replied to Terry_yang's topic in Security Cameras
Not sure how you can say that given that IP cameras are already dropping in price (we're selling them about 20% cheaper today than we did this time last year!), and will continue to plummet as the Asian markets get more involved in their manufacture. All technology reduces in price, look at Plasma TVs, only 7 years ago they were 10 times the price they are now. All logic points to the notion that IP cameras are going to get cheaper, the technology behind them simply doesn't have the capacity to remain elusive to the cheaper manufacturers for long. 7 YEARS ! ! ! thats moving horrendously slow. by the time IP cameras come down to consumer level your cell phone will have a better camera! Not sure what you mean by that one, it's a contradictory statement there - the equivalent of saying "I invented the clothes dryer first, but they already had them..." i'm saying the parts for the "clothes dryer" already exist but no one has bothered to put them together yet !thats not an uncommon thing, many new products have been around for a long time, just not in that form. ie new use for old tech. even car manufactures take existing car parts and make a new car out of them. .......There is also the consideration that most buildings when being constructed will have Cat5 laid out and ready to go for computer installations anyway. Cat5 is far cheaper than coax, so any new installation would have rocks in their heads to lay down RG59 unless they are short runs. Essentially, your view point here is the equivalent of demanding that we only use dirt roads because they are "easier to build" and you want car manufacturers to make a miracle and make a car that can do 140Km/h on these dirt roads... who said anything about new buildings??? its simply cheaper to use existing coax than to pull through (if even possible) new cables.plus not all buildings have computer networks. I have yet to come across a customer who does NOT want to be able to watch the CCTV in their office from home. Period. you don't need IP cameras for that. You do have a point here, but I'm not quite sure how it's related. We're talking about what might or might not happen in 5 years, not what the market is like at this current point. Even then however, pick up a newspaper or look up the CES show in Las Vegas --- things are definitely changing as far as options for home automation and what it will be like in the future. The concept has been around for decades, but the actual technology is beginning to appear now. homes are around a lot longer than the technology thats in them. you can't wire a home for tech that may or may not arrive in 10 years time. you have to fit the tech to whatever is existing. there are tons of analog systems in use, even old VCR recorders are still in use. it would be great if they had a nice easy upgrade path to digital cameras. -
i doubt you can make them synchronize to the music. cameras move to slow, they will never move fast enough to keep up with music. you would either have to use very slow music, or dumb the output right down (but you won't get much movement) or change the actuators to hydraulic so it can move faster.
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had a bit of that, not quite that bad. punch a hole in the wall where you thought the box was.....nope wrong place....try again
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nah man .. poor mans way is a marker on the cable just before the BNC! yeah and you need a lens to see it ! mind you on building sites i never bothered to label the wires. most of the time the wires got painted or the labels cut off.
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poor mans way.....white insulation tape. not wrapped around cable but just folded in half. give a big aera to write on.
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just a thought, depending on how the cable setup is done, the modulator can back feed the cable system so it may be possible for your neighbors to view the cameras. of course cable company won't like you putting signal back up their network.