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Can anybody send me some pictures of the inside of one of these units? I have one I am rehabbing, I got the case with no mobo so everything has been disconnected. I've go the new mobo,cpu,hard etc coming but totallt forgot hoe the internals hook up. Thanx in advance.

Ok here is what I hope is a quickie. I just built a DS Xpress 16 channel config for a customer of mine. Basically changed the mobo and the PSU, using the DS Xpress case and hardware etc. With the following specs: Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3 Socket 1155, Intel Quad Core I5, 8 Gigs of ram, 4 2 TB hard drives, Dual Layer DVD burner, Cooler Master 500 watt psu, Intel 1000 Mb PCIx lan card and W7 64 bit, utilizing Pelco's new DS software 7.4.3, all of this hardware is new. The two capture cards are the MP3000's pulled from a working system, tested and retested no issues in another setup. Issue: I got all the wire origami done, installed a fan controller, customized a cutout for that, HD fans, punched a hole in the side of the caes by the drive bays for intake fan, two pci exhaust fans, installed W7, updated the Bios from Gigabyte. The unit runs like an ape on too much caffine, BUT as soon as I install a single capture card the unit power cycles. I can only get one capture card into the first PCI slot, and the second into the third slot due to the size of the cards and the damn sata ports. However it doesn't matter which way I install them same issue. Contacted my rep at pelco and they are not aware of any issues with Gigabyte mobos (of course they don't support that),LOL. I am aware that Gigabyte mobos are 'known' for crappy pci slots. I hope that isn't my issue with this one, an RMA at this point would be time consuming IE re-do all the wire. Thanx

Hey folks where can I find a VGA to BNC adapter. I want to take the VGA signal out of my DVR hook it up to RG6 via BNC then run it to my remote monitor which only has BNC inputs. I don't want the BNC to VGA adapter, I am not sure if those are "backwards" compatible know what i mean? Thanx

OK thank you, BUT at the remote monitor side I am still stuck with getting back to BNC, If I was to run say the 100" vga cable. Now I looked at the averkey stuff, might have missed it but it still leaves me with vga out/s-video out (loosing my res again), I follow the hook up the 'transmitter' and go cat6e to the receiver. Looks to me I would have to not only buy the transmitter and receiver and then a 26" vga lcd monitor. To actually accomplish my goal. This Pelco Public View 26" monitor has high res capabilities, and I have hooked up the spot monitor to it, MAJOR difference in video quality. The problem is that even with the new 7.1.47 software on my DS realVue they still don't allow you to send both 'spot' monitors out to a single video stream, each 'spot' monitor is tied to a single card ergo 8 channels each per 'spot'. frustrating to say the least. I have been looking at possibly using a "T" bnc connector to see if I can combine the 'spot' signal into a single video stream. In my shop I have a regular 19" pelco lcd monitor sitting on top of the dvr vga out, then across the shop I have a 26" public view monitor that is hooked up via the "spot" monitors, I had to rearrange my inputs to card one (I am only using 2 cards and of that 13 Channels are in use) so my priority cameras are shown on "video one", then the dreaded s-video to rca to bnc to rg6 to my room to another public view 26". It would be nice if 'frigging' Pelco would smarten up with the spot monitors, there only 15 minutes from my house and I have several techs there two of whom have become personal friends, I rebuld these units so am on the phone quite a bit. The only other cheaper way I can think of is to figure out a way to 'custom build' a vga adapter issue with that is I am only going to be able to use two wires off the vga eh? Did I give you a good enough picture here of my setup? I dont think the 19" monitor will allow me to just use the video 'loop' through, if I am not mistaken you have to input a video signal say video one and then it will will loop through to the video out (bnc), in other words I dont think I can just simply 'bnc' out of the 19", (as I am writing ideas are coming to mind LOL), so what is shown on the local monitor doesn't come out the 'bnc' out built into the monitor. Thanx again for your input.

Thanx for the reply, I am already doing what all there products do. The video card I have installed on my DVR has DVI/S-video/vga out. As it is set up right now I am using the S-Video out to RCA, then using an RCA to BNC adapter to RG6 running about 100' to my to remote moniter. The picture is "okay", BUT I know that if I come out dvi/or vga the picture would improve 100%. Mainly because the ATI software only allows T.V. resolution what 640x480 something like that using a s-video output, then going 100' you get the picture. :{ My wish is to be able to go DVI to VGA with an (in stock) adapter then bounce to BNC. Or start looking at those video extenders via cat 5/6 however I will end up with the same problem at the remote monitor end which is a 26" Pelco. Or I could start surfing the net looking for a 'cheap' 26"+ LCD monitor and buy one of those vga extenders via cat 5/6. It seems either way if I want to get better resolutions at my remote monitor it isn't gonna be cheap. Unless somebody here has a better idea I think without spending a few hundred dollars I am screwed, or stop being anal and live with it......arrrffff

Is anybody interested in pelco stuff? I have some DSXpress Real Vues in stock up and running refurbed, I also have TONS of parts, and lots of fiber optic stuff cards, cables, rec, trans, I also have eido stuff. I have a fed DS1000 that work a DX8000 that I can get going, just haven't pulled it down yet. Public view monitors no cam etc etc, tons of various capture cards, I cant ID all of them but I can test them. Hollar at me. I have face plates doors etc

Well bingo after much ado', a small plastic project box, RJ45 connector, two switchs DPDT center off. I have zoom and focus from the "Man Cave". I thought what the hell lets do this two ways. So I put an rj 45 socket on the box and an end on the wire, then I also did a twin wire job in the shop 125' away. Therefore I can just unplug my box take it to the shop and plug it in or back to the "Man Cave". Just wish I could move that sucker around, oh well. I have four Spectra III's coming with keyboard, that will give me 13 camera's watching the triplex. On to the next project!

I have the DS RealVueXpress running through my XIO panel all is good in wonderland. I hooked up my 12th camera today and it has a motorized zoom, lens model 13zd6x8p. I am using the yellow, red wire for zoom and the green, black wire for focus. I have tied together Yellow and black as "common". I can apply 12 Vdc directly to these wires and zoom in and zoom out etc, focus etc. What I can't figure is what do I use for protocals on the DS and the address. Also on the XIO panel I have RX+ RX- and TX+ TX-. I need to know which com port to use, which adress and which protocal IE Pelco D no parity (which I have tried), I also tried seperating the wires rx tx respectively still no action. At the housing EH5700L I have the yellow/black tied together in the common. That point is moot since it works at that end and at my end, via 12Vdc. Any help would be appreciated thanx guys and gals.

Thanx for the reply, check and double check. I do happen to have a regulated 12 volt, that I knocked down to 10 volts@1 amp for a special application. That should fit the bill very nicely! Window switchs...thats an idea. Thanx

Just my luck. Go figure. Well it looks like it is time to bust out a project box, supply it with 12 volts and two DPDT momentary switchs. Whaddya think? Thanx

Ok now that my RealVue has been finally working with no issues, I had to create one. LOL Currently running 6 cameras analog and two cameras via IP MJPEG @ 15ips, both low lights work great (total of eight). Everybody is happy. Now my DVR is in my server rack, in my garage/shop. About 130' away straight through the attic. If I am using DS Control Point (4.2.0.2) I can see all 8 cameras no issues on any of my computers including outside of the network. BUT it chews the hell out of my cpu, makes my quad core run at 85% all the time. (yes I know change settings etc etc), generally I have been "monitoring" the outside world by simply sliding that program to my other screen. No problem. Well since I just got a boatload of Pelco monitors and fixed a real nice 19" public view, I thought what the hell I can set that up in my room, make a run of rg6 from the shop and bingo were good to go! Right? Sure you bet, man works great, hear some noise hit the remote and instant picture. Nice, great solid picture except, no ip cams, happens to be the two that I really wanna watch. The back of the DS has 4 monitor outputs, each corresponds to one of the boards. I am showing 6 analog cams no problem. I changed the IP camera assingment to the "virtual" ports on board one hoping that would do it...not....changed them to mpg4...not. I can even see them in the Digital Sentry Client software, but they still wont show on the remote monitor. Same thing with Control Point, I can set them up but it wont send the signal. In DS Admin I can set the views up too, same deal. ARRRGGGG. I assume then, that I can only send "analog" video "out" to a monitor, since the IP cams are digital they wont pass through the monitor out? That seems unlikely for a 12k system. I could I suppose take the VGA out and convert that to BNC, then I would get everything on my remote monitor. I am hoping, that I am doing something wrong here. It would be a major pain to change my ip cams to analog since I mounted these ones up high. So any guru's got any ideas? Please tell me I am just holding my mouth wrong! I wanna use the pass through and run that to my 42" in my living room and use pip (since thats a Pelco too), but not if I can't see all the dang cams. Thanx all for any ideas. Note: I am aware that I can get the VGA to BNC thingy, but then wait a week and pay $40.00.....not what I really wanna do.

I have a super clean DX4500 deal today. You get the keyboard,mouse,19" Pelco LCD monitor, manual, resource CD and all the cables you will need. This unit has 750 Gigs of hard drive in it. I just went through the entire unit and updated to the latest firmware, the cd burner works great. I added a side fan so there is now two. The unit runs really cool, works great. I had it in my shop for about a year, then I ugraded to the RealVue Xpress. I want $2000.00 for this unit will ship for free via ups regular ground. PayPal only please. Contact me for further information and pictures if you wanna see them. Waaranty is available!

Ok I made the leap and have installed one of my DSRealVue Express units. It works great amazing quality from junk cams. BUT my issue is that I can't access the unit remotely! No matter what, none of the pc's on my network can get to it either through the remote viewer or DS Control. 1) Opened the ports in my router. Same deal that I had my DX4500 hooked up to, I just changed the names etc same IP address. 2) I set the DVR ip's address thus: 192.168.0.20 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.1 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 3) I can ping that ip and it is good, I can remote desktop into that DVR and it is all good. 4) I can share files all the way across the board and I can access all of my computers from the dvr etc etc. 5) Firewall exceptions have been put in place on all my machines. The dvr is actually hooked up via switchs, since the lone router is at the start of my networking run. 6) I installed an additional gigbit nic card to see if that would help no go, I am back to the onboard nic. Now, I have one Pelco ip cam hooked up it is an ip110 and has the latest firmware, but that dvr can't get it to disply live video, it knows that it is there but no live video. I am wondering what the heck could be the issue here? Perhaps the default dns server on the dvr which I think was 10...... something might need to stay the same? I don't know. So any of the super guru's here have any ideas? Thanx all

Ok I got it! I even spent an hour + on the phone with Pelco support and they couldn't figure it out....go figure I asked for a job. LOL The simple solution was to run ALL of the XP updates, once that happened all of my W7 machines and my two Vista machines can talk to the DVR now via DS ControlPoint and DS Admin. These units are real nice! I have three IP cams hooked up now and 6 cruddy cams everything looks great. Now to go with PTZ's. I have four Spectra's being rebuilt. The next trick? web access without using DS ControlPoint......looks like I am gonna have to dial up my server eh? Thats the only way I can think of jacking into the dvr. Anyways thanx all.

I hadn't thought of that. I did have the loopback in the unit, but when the ip cam didn't show video (although connected) I went ahead and gave the unit a fixed ip address in the hopes that I would be able to resolve this issue. By the way using the same ip for the other DVR. LOL so much for that. I will give it a whirl

I have a project I am bidding on, it is on a ranch. Customer has a 'house' that is about 1/2 mile away straight line of sight, they need two cams over there, currently there using two cams there with an outdated wireless transmission setup, it is failing. I have convinced them to go with wireless IP cameras. Two problems present 1) Do I have to use use two antennas for each camera? ergo both of the cams can be directly pointed to the 'receiving antenna', or am I going to have to use four antennas for two cams? (two transmit and two receive) 2) I assume then at the receive antenna(s), that my wireless router will then pick up the signal? That unit being only 30' feet away and in clear line of sight. I was looking at hawking antennas, but am concerned about connecting that antenna to the camera itself. I have emailed them but no response yet. To further complicate matters, they need an additional 4 cams that will be wireless ip also coming in from a different direction. These I can mount high though. I am wondering, is it feasible to hard wire these cams, could I in theroy hard wire the cams to a wireless router, then have that router hooked up to a tranmitting antenna, pointing at the house? Any suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thank You

thnax I am onsite right now just finished the wifi survey looks good. were gonna change the antenna structure, and go with the omni at a different spot on the ranch. When I get back to the shop I will look at your suggestions and post the new idear's...

Your throughput per camera is going to be around 4MB with the multi-point setup. Also the megapixel ACTI cameras do max of 8fps and you can forget about getting that with the wireless setup. POE makes the install easier with the POE output to power the camera. Also one less transformer to plug in and less heat to build up in the outdoor box with the sun beating down on it. Also POE is the only why to power the Enginus Access points. Ok now you got me all screwed up thanx! actually I am following you. OK so if I went with the ubiquiti, I could get more frame rates eh? ok the router I picked does wireless N...but I am sorta confused again, just when I thought I had this down. Both the antennas I chose and the cams support POE? I just looked again. Now what your saying is that all I would have to do is power the antenna and omit the need to run another wire to the camera eh? utilizing POE, So all I would have to deal with is the single cat5 to the camera? I also researched the omni idea more...you probably have something there. No reason I couldn't go higher with that antenna. So sell me on the Ubiquiti. I am totally open to the idea and as you said it wont change my bottom line, I have not orderd anything yet. What exactley would you suggest for my setup. Oh looking at the cams specs, I can run them at HD720 or VGA, I bet they would put out a good VGA signal. It would most likely be a real good slam nice and solid! Thanx I am off to the site, 1 1/2 hour drive final site walkthrough! tnx

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No I have not done the numbers yet, but at giganet I should be good. I know I know, my theroy is this, I am better to dummy down the cam ergo slow the fps down if I have to and or res...which is always better than trying to up scale a camera, you cant make crap look better...smells the same looks the same...LOL I won't be "pushing" through the house, the back antenna I will be able to cat 5 to the router. That is the only one that I can do that with. The router will be in plain sight 30' away from the front rec antenna. POE why is everybody stuck on that? I dont need it. I have 120v at ALL the cameras and a weathertight box already mounted with power in it and room for the camera power adapter! The IR is just a toss in, basically it comes with the camera, the focal point for all of these cams is about 15' looking pretty much straight down. Very narrow area to monitor. If I can get 10 to 15 FPS I will be real happy, right now there lucky to have like 3fps LOL, so I am sure this setup will beat that. Nice setup you have there I like it.

Well setup a test dummy, or pop an empty hard drive in your machine. Get a trial version of W7, load it up and see what happens! Follow my advice previously. I agree with Vista, but again what an earlier poster said, you can tweak Vista to scream. I loved Vista and love W7 even more simply because I don't have to spend the hours I did getting Vista just right. You wont know unless you try a test dummy!

looks interesting I might try that and see whazzz up. tnx

OK cool thanx for the heads up. Vista home not supported I can understand and server 2000 I can understand, if it supports server 03 and 08 it does make sense that it wont support 64 bit...I betcha that is a memory issue....hmmmm I bet I could get it to work on 64. I did look at there revisions and the list is long. But I am used to Digital Sentry crapola talk about not friendly ugggg. I will have a gander at there other versions and see. I can always D/L it and see what makes it tick. But I have been told that if at all possible a guy wants to stick with the cams manf. software when possible, also I dont want to run into IP lisc crap issues either. Otherwise I would just slam a DS Xpress real Vue into the mix and make myself miserable LOL So what do you think about my setup other than the software?

I have never used that software, from the specs it looks good on paper. Would have a rec. for my app? I think it would behoove me to stick with the same company for the software...just my 2 cents

I am going to find that out tomorrow or tonight my time LOL, I had not thought about that issue to deeply! Don't think analog cards work with the ACTI software. I would recommend ACTI's IP encoders for your analog cameras then you would have everything on the ACTI software.