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Start here: http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30023

Yep, that is what I use almost daily and it works really well for a Dahua.

You be the judge.

8 outdoor analog cameras were installed a year ago but RG59 and Cat5 was run 6 months earlier (in January). The wires was left dangleing until June; I coiled them and stuffed as much as I could back into the wall. To this date there has been no problems whatsoever including upgrading 2 outdoor cams to MP.

The two I know of are Dahua's site and bahamas security

You won't be bashful about posting day/night shots once everythign is worked out right?

What's your budget?

Keep in mind this is for Blackberry: http://support.techprosecurity.com/attachments/token/qoufyniqitgywkq/?name=Blackberry_DVR_Viewer_Manual.pdf When you say "logged onto a LAN" do you mean logged onto a LAN with internet? Because the same applies to me. I can get the home cameras (QVIS DVR) over any internet connection using WIFI on the phone or computer. I don't think I have ever been able to get the cams over 3G. Also, doubt this will help but try port 8080.

I had to open port 554 on my router in order to view my Qvis (Dahua) on the phone (blackberry). ...BTW I have had little success getting the cameras from the DVR over 3G AT&T (takes forever) even when using sub-stream. No problem seeing the cameras over a WIFI connection

Not the weirdest thing in the world but definitely odd for my neighborhood in the city. Later in the afternoon I hear, on the scanner, there's a wounded deer laying in the back yard of a home about 5 blocks away. The cop was given permission to shoot it but, when he got there, the thing took off!

One of the guys on the forum helped me with this same issue but with a Veilux PTZ. I downloaded a 30 day trial of PTZ Controller http://download.cnet.com/PTZ-Controller/3000-2108_4-10810761.html and was able to access the OSD by clicking the menu button on the software and run through the menus via Iris control (I think). Just be sure to switch the com ports in the DVR before attempting to access the menu then switch them back when finished. Worked great! Since then the software expired but the PTZ settings are good to go.

You set your PC to a static IP but is your internet static or dynamic? Are you trying to view the cameras remotely over the internet or just over the LAN? If wanting to see them over the internet and have a dynamic ip you need to set up a dynamic (DDNS) address which has been well covered on this forum. After you get a DDNS tell the router to communicate with the service or download their update client (if available). Sounds like you have the port forward configured correctly. Also check out portforward.com

I sent you a PM about 3xlogic...let me know if you did not get it. Also, take a look at 3xLogic's web page, they have the cameras we have mentioned. They also have a full demo of their cameras/remote software from Colorado which is what sold me on their system since I was able to view live cameras, play back footage, initiate camera control (PTZ). Attached is a night shot from their VSX 2MP VD (vandal dome) - bear in mind there is a lot of lighting at that location

Can't go wrong with Cat5. I am incredibly thankful they ran it as our building was remodeled; its all buried in walls now. I remember thinking I would not get the budget for megapixel cams until years down the road. Then, a year later, after the wire install they told me to get them. Here are some pictures showing analog versus IP and some additional info on ip cams. Nothing wrong with analog cams - still have a bunch of CNB VBMs going strong. http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=11322

Well, if you are pulling Cat6 for the camera why not pull another for the heater? Should be no problem using Cat6 for power since it is copper. Otherwise you can go with any copper conductor pair laying around like 18/2. For example, in my case, we ran Cat5 along with RG-59. At one camera 3 pairs of the Cat5 was used for power until an IP camera was installed. Now the Cat5 is used (PoE included) so I plan to use the RG-59 for power (if needed for a heater)- not the most professional way but it will do...

What we don't know from your post is what kind of business is this? Will the Guard Station be staffed 24 hours a day every day of the year? If so what if there is an incident and security gets distracted; will someone try to capitalize and damage the DVR? In my situation we put a 16 Channel DVR in the IT Room (which happens to double as my office). You have to go through another room to get to the IT room and both room doors are locked at all times. Since I have no idea if you have considered this we use a KVM over 80 feet of Cat5 to the security station (desk) where officers sit for their shift. Using their own DVR accounts they have limited control of the DVR including playback and PTZ. The only downside is I can see whatever they do and they can see whatever I am doing at the DVR but it is not a big deal. The positives of this application include less wires to tie down, no extra PC and things are generally more neat at the front desk. In the IT room we connected the DVR and camera power supply to an unused UPS. A few weeks ago the power went out at night but not the cameras which was cool playing back video. Plus, if I am trying different DVR network connections I have everything I need in the IT room. Yes I could have installed a lock box bolted to the floor for the DVR at the Front Desk but it really was not practical especially since the wire guys were pulling everything (phone and data) at once when we remodeled. Everything was going into the IT room so it made sense to bring the security wires in there as well. I also have the option to give the security personnel a PC so they can view the cameras over the LAN but that would have taken away from real time viewing - something I am not quite ready for at the front desk. Attached is a picture of out front desk configuration. You can see the monitor and mouse/keyboard, at the far end of the desk, which is all that's needed for our set-up.

Could not have learned this stuff without the forum; a lot of it from you Matt Man!

The CNB camera is not, technically, PoE. You are simply using the conductors in the Cat5 for video and those cameras make power hook-up really easy. I like to use 2 pairs (stripped and twisted together) at each end of the Cat5. These threads may help: http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=30813 http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=30355 http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=30651&p=192009#p192009 Also, here is a link to a really good balun guide from MuxLab. http://www.muxlab.com/assets/files/application_guides/VE_CCTV_Balun.pdf

Check out bahamas security.com (no space between the 2 words)

Not interested in baluns on Cat5 for analog systems - just in case?

I am using a PC based PSS and simply using the "To Avi" tab in the playback screen.

Works for me; last used on May 25th. Have you checked out the software from bahamas security under Dahua downloads How to convert DAV files to AVI?

Yep, one Cat5 to each camera but you will need a switch to connect all cameras; then a lines goes from the switch to the DVR/Computer. Don't forget you will still need to power the camera which is why PoE is easiest. In this case you'll want to get a switch with PoE. At work we have the Cisco SF 302-08P but there may be others in a better price range. I'll let others chime in on a pc based system and NVRs

For same price for a decent DVR card in the computer (where the camera wires will connect) you can get the same basic DVR I have for $229 (500 GB Drive). It is also worth the peace of mind that the unit is new, simple to operate, dedicated to a security deployment and will probably last longer than the used PC (this is not to knock PC based systems). All of this to say you would get the cameras on the monitor upstairs using the remote software. To tell you the truth the remote software (PSS) is better for playback and most DVR settings than sitting at the DVR. for example, I only go downstairs to playback once a week at the DVR - mostly to adjust lights that are on timers. In my case I have a 15" computer monitor connected to the DVR but you can use an old TV (or anything with a video in or VGA port) if you don't have an extra monitor It is usually best and most convenient to place the power supply near the DVR. Like I said, it was easist to run my wires into the basement because the cameras are about 9 feet from the ground. Anything mounted higher than that risks facial identity. Looking back I should have purchased a Hybrid DVR for home (the pictures in my previous post were from a Hybrid DVR at work) which would have eventually allowed me to go IP. The image is a heck of a lot better....that said, I have no complaints about the analog cameras (CNB VBM 24VFs) at my house - especially since the police were recently able to charge and get a conviction on some teenagers after a mugging in camera view.

I would run Cat5 for all possible cameras (actual and prospective). You use one pair for video (using baluns), 2 pair for power and leave one as a spare. This Thread might help you get started. http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=30672 If your set up (DVR) will be in the basement (like mine) you can run one Cat5 from there to the office (or where your router is). All of the camera wires will run from each camera to the basement (my camera wires are regular Cat5 and were initially tucked under siding but now in conduit - better option) and terminate at the DVR with baluns. I can then get the camera images via remote software over the LAN to any computer in the house. I have a second floor office as well and have a computer on all the time so I just turn the monitor on and the cameras are on the screen. Keep in mind you don't have to have a dedicated computer like this but, I found, it is better for me to just sit down and turn on the monitor while I work on other computer stuff.