MiamiRob

tomcctv, Thanks for catching the camera count issue. I will look into it. In general, do these costs seem in a normal rangge? I feel that the labor and cabling costs are ready up there at almost 50% of the total price. Computers, DVRs, etc., $35,040, 10% of total cost Labor $95,665, 28% of total cost Cabling-Misc, $68,800 20% of total cost Hardware, $71,367, 21% of total cost Conduit, $75,000, 22% of total Thanks, Rob

Thewireguys, Regarding the specs, about three years ago, we paid a security consultant to create a detailed plan for the building. The master project under which this work is being done was delayed so we did not use the plans until now. The consultant is no longer involved because he is very ill and also because his contract ended years ago when he gave us the plans. We have many pages of architectural plans with all the details of where door access controls should be installed, where all the cameras should be placed, etc. There were also beams that ran along the top of the fences to detect intruders. All the security companies giving us quotes said that the plans showed too much security for a condo. They all said that we did not need beams on top of our fences and they said that we did not need all the cameras that the security plans show. The access control is called “Community Secure”. In the design from the security consultant, a system called “CondoPlex” is specified. However, the security company said that we could save money by using “Community Secure.” The cameras in the plans from the security consultant were: Vehicle entry\exit and garage - Panasonic CW244 Vandal Dome, $656 License plates - Panasonic CW 474 AS, $925 with an additional $250 for the camera mount Lobbies and Foyers – Panasonic CF282, $394 with a $250 mounts Panasonic CW964 Vandal Outdoor PTZ, $3,849 with $70 pole mount Tennis courts – Panasonic CP484 Day night, $677 -------- Four Panasonic WJD316A10 Harddrive digital recorders costing 8,480 each were original specified by the design engineer when he did our master plan. Thank you very much for helping me out. Rob

Tomcctv, Would the lighting for the Everfocus come from some attachment to the camera or some special lens or do you mean lights installed in the area that the camera protects? If the dome cameras as inside where there are lights, will they be okay at night? The $350,000 includes the conduit. The DVRs that they will be installing are three: EPRA1603 1 TB, $3,520 each Three Toshiba 22” color CCTV monitors, $880 each Three EKB 500 Controllers $880 each To install this, they have quoted 120 hours of labor at $95\hour They have quoted 1 wire\misc $4,000 (I don’t understand what this cost includes . Obviously, I will get more info.) Total cost for this work is $31,240 What is the advantage of IP and hybrid? I mentioned that and the company said that it would be much more expensive. They talked almost as if it would be cost prohibitive and would not used in this type of install. I understand the concept of IP addressing and IP devices on a network from my work with computer networks but I am not clear on how IP works in a security system. (I will search in Google and read about it after I submit this.) Thank you for the advice about the camera pricing and ages. I will look into that. Why is a bullet camera not good in an elevator? Is it because it could easily get damaged and the camera should be installed in a housing like the vandal dome? One of the companies from which we receied quotes said that they were only quoting 18x zoom because while our property is large, most of the cameras are not positioned in locations that need stronger zooms. How far a distance would a 18x zoom be appropriate? What distance would you suggest would start to require a stronger zoom? I sincerely appreciate your time and help. Rob