JWH

If you are only going to record and play back only, then you only need to get the hdd model without the burn capability. However, most hdd version are able to burn disks. Have not heard of the other brands you mentioned, All dvd recorders and players are regional in their settings so you won't be able to use it outside the region. US is a different region from China and far east and Europe is another region and so on. The size of the hard drive will determine how many programs you can retain before deleting and some can be set to record a season of one program at a time. Others will record every listing for that program so you will want to check. JWH

I have to agree with the above statements. Get the hard drive to edit out the commercials and other crap that you wind up recording. it shortens up the used space and then burn to disk. I know the panasonic and the sony use propriatary software formats that may cause problems later. I have a phillips that uses the TV guide listings instead of Tivo but it does not put the listings in order for you so it takes a while to setup, not intuitive at all. They were going to work on it in newer models. The local cable company throws of the listing guide every time it updates itself so I wind up resetting the channel order after the update. It can record in dvd-rw or dvd+rw format however, with all the bells and whistle and inputs and outputs galore. Burns disks in minutes and you can set the record rate and quality. Hope this helps. JWH

Hey, Just to let you know I left the motion lights on last night and snapped a picture of the creep trying to go in my shed. It just happened to be the time the police were patrolling and saw him try to climb over the fence. He slipped on the fence hooked hi shoe and fell in his own yard and broke his arm. I will probably have to pay a claim against my home owners insurance but seeing he was caught and arrested was worth it. JWH

Spytown has the T4IP and can't find the tm4cd online. Sorry. What model AvTech. I don't really want to set up another computer, the dvr should do the job. I am looking to set up 1 maybe 2 cameras covering the shed and the fence. I agree a dome would probably be best to prevent tampering. I half want him to see me installing the cameras and half don't. I may need to cover the drive as well. This is getting interesting. I had the garbage moved and dumped in front of the car now.

VSTMan, Do you mean this camera: the 9100EX http://www.cctvimports.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_8&products_id=236 because I don't find the model you listed and it is the closest in numbers on their site. I e-mailed Eclipse and they said the Nubix is a discontinued model. Also dealer only. Where can I get one? Thanks for getting back to me. JWH

Hi, I found this forum and need some help. I have read a lot of your post and I think I need a basic system setup. It goes like this: I have a neighbor who is out of control. He is constantly on my property. there has been damage to my shed and things thrown in my pool. I have found wet footprints at my back door when I check the sensor activation at night. Police are NOT doing anything. There is a fence and I have put up motion detector lights. They are constantly going off with bats and deer in the yard as well, so I wind up turning them off to get sleep at night. I don't want to transmit the info over the web, but have a back up to cd for the police and as evidence and keep the dvr recording. I want a clear still shot and full motion as well. I was looking at installing 2 cameras with separate IR illuminators as is strongly suggested here. I think I need a 4 channnel dvr but not sure what compression is going to be best for me. I don't want to spend over $1000 for the dvr if I can help it so I was looking at the Speco T4Ip but I don't think you guys like it much. also looked at the g4-4xcd but it seams cheap in comparison. I also looked at the GE dmre 4 but think its too much. I was thinking the kc-n600 cameras or are they overkill? I have really had my eyes opened to the level of variety and details required for this topic by reading here so any help would be appreciated. Thanks, JWH