brianj

Since this has already been mentioned from other users and i also strongly consider their H.264 cards right now, let's get this official please!

Hi all, great forum! After learning my lessons from buying some $20 CIF crap like everyone else (with software that runs like a win95 screensaver;) , i'm now still looking for a quality 4-8CH h264 card with DVR software that provides at least the minimum of Windows compatibility, i.e. a program window with normal max/minimize buttons for example:/ As i'll still need analoque sources, i ended up with Geovsion, Avermedia and now Hikvision, so far.. Anyone have experience with running any such cards on a Atom D510 system? What about this one? Not pirated? h**p://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/291087070-4CH-H-264-DVR-Card-HK-DS4004HCI-wholesalers.html thanks for help

Hi, i know most everyone is suggesting heavy RG59 siamese cable, but for my <80ft distances i'm trying to find a thinner ( & unshielded hmm) 4-pair Yellow/White/Red/Black cable like this one, only in bulk: http://www.amazon.com/Q-See-QS120F-Audio-Video-Extension/dp/B00028JHAE So what's actually the name of this RCA type cable? Just telephone cord in Y.W.R.B. ? And what's the backdraw of using it instead RG59 for short distances?

Back to start? seriously, i really need some input on this.. thin white cable that runs video audio and 12volts up to 80ft...

So you are using some sort of space-age copper shielded cable instead? "I will not explain everything, somethings you have to figure out for yourself." i see... ^^

Ok, so from that i read there is really no expensive thin-cabling with separate shielding out there? check this btw: http://www.phoenixcontact.com/global/products/54143_54148.htm 4-pin, mini plug connector

Well, i did know those cables ruin the quality over higher distance, still the reason i asked is because i was looking for a solution other than using thick unflexible RG59 or cat5 cable and balons (even though it's cheap. And from the replies, seems like what i'm looking for doesn't exit.. yet again^^ Now i'll look into thin shielded phone line, trying to find manufacturer making one in Y.W.R.B. what about this one?

Basically just for the convenience of having a single white & thin cable that is easier to hide without drilling holes into the ceiling at all.. barber shops etc. But this industry is really heavy, unflexible, industrial CAT5 stone age, so seems i'll have to reinvent the wheel again^^ I really need a mouse cable thin, usb type of cable

Yes, just video, audio & 12V DC (even though i actually won't use the audio, i like to have it ready) Yellow(shielded), White(shielded), Red, Black ? Why isn't there anything like this?

seems like noone has an actual solution for it :/

But i really need a thin Video/Audio/DC cable, so what's the actual solution for it? How would such a yellow-white-red-black cable ideally look like? -> Shielded yellow + shielded white + DC?

Allright, this is hilarious.. After i really went through this whole industry of pirated clone cards and substandard junk software, looking for budget (PC based) analogue DVR solutions for like the past 2 weeks, i ended up with couple opinions on the known manufacturers: Consumer grade DVR Cards -> Geovsion - Quite expensive H.264/Hybrid cards, cheap/substandard software but large userbase -> Avermedia - Just as expensive H.264/Hybrid cards, same type of cheap/substandard software -> Nuuo - Even more expensive H.264/Hybrid cards, same type of cheap/substandard software Professional Solutions -> Arecont, Exacq etc. - Quite better software/hardware, but no option for home use -> Mobotix - Q24 $700 - Reasonable alternative (to put in a car for example), but software doesn't meet my expectations HikVision So i went ahead, lucky enough to check for Hikvision again ($350 - 8CH H.264, good price!) and finally just downloaded their iVMS-4000 software.. First impression: "That's it!" Reasonable priced 8CH hardware card, quality & nice looking software that runs on win7.. and also iPhone client?? But after reading into the manual i can only find info on how to use the software with their DVRs, not the cards. Plus, since yesterday i get a malware warning from Google on hikvision.com, but not hikvision-usa.com. -> Anyone here running a HikVision card with iVMS?

Funny that only people who never used/owned an iPhone would believe that, because all it takes is actually 2 clicks to pull up the right contact and reading the number out loud.. This also applies to pushing the home button and accessing the notes or mail application. With the call still active, the 3rd click on the 'return to call bar' gets back to the call menu.. Btw, the iPhone has always been capable of multitasking for any of the native applications, just limited to native and vital tasks such as mail or background audio to avoid the same battery drainage nightmares windows phones have. My 3GS easily lasts for 3 days depending on usage, i usually reboot it once a month, it's always ready to pull a google query within 5 seconds (yes, it's never 'off'), at night i just switch to airplane mode to get a rest of the push service radiation interval:) With the OS4 autumn update, both iphone/ipad will have an even better version of multi-tasking than any other phone on the market.. and i also expect these great developers of the current hikvision client or any other CCTV developers to make use of the new push notification/background task model for something like a 24/7 'instant on' CCTV monitor on the iphone/ipad.. something that just couldn't be done on windows! On the iPad, it would be like this: 1) ipad has hikvision(or else) ipad client with push notification 2) iVMS-X000(or else) sends push notification in realtime(!), as soon as an alarm is triggered 3) While screen off, ipad turns on with a popup 'Motion Detected In XX! [Cancel][View]' 4) Hitting the 'view' button returns the frozen client app, displaying the live feed within 1-x seconds, no booting, no hibernation This is a brave new world! PS: Thanks for insight on the card support, yet i still only see IP settings in the 'add device' menu.. must be automatically recognized then..

So how is the card configured with iVMS-4000 then? The driver emulates a network DVR and it's added like any of their other standalone products? What about the iPhone client in this case? Do you mind posting a screenshot on how the card is configured? And what about used cards that come without drivers? Cheers, Brian

Yes, 2 types of cards.. the avermedia MPEG4 ones (D1) and 4016HCI, so how does this apply? According to jdlds the 4016HCI ($650) runs at least 16 Channels 2CIF H.264 (realtime) but also "8 channels real-time at 4CIF" (704 × 576) quote: http://www.jdlds.com/4016HCI.html Btw, 2) Exactly this type of "Active X Junk" is the shame of the whole industry, I'll just go for remote desktop access (hardware accelerated since win 2008) instead, but also looking for options like the iVMS-4500 iphone client which seems better than the averdigi app.. and from the looks i exspect there will also be an ipad version soon. Yet, I'm still reading into iVMS manual and have no idea if the software can even be used with the hikvision cards!

Well, Avermedia's $480 NV7240 (4?)-8CH card appears to be more expensive, adding 2.5 times the storage cost due to MPEG4 compression, running this software: compared to Hikvison's $650 4016HCI 16CH Card, which seems to run 8 channels H.264 4CIF and this software: plus this one: Yet, i havn't ordered a Hikvision card as i don't even know how the card is supported by the software.. so who is running iVMS here?

Hi, and also thanks for your comparison of the different software before.. Actually, my problems are: The iVMS-4000 manual only details how to connect their standalone DVRs, not their cards.. so the cards driver acts as a localhost IP server? I've only found 1 retailer and used ebay offers so far.. where to get them? (1800securitycamera.com/Hikvision-4008HCI-8-Ch-Hardware-Compressed-card-w-p/4008HCI.htm) PS: I also give my vote for a Hikvision subforum PPS: Found nice videos on youtube youtube.com/user/syscomcctv