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only in America..........

Make sure your passwords are case-correct. Also, you sometimes have to use a different login and password for web use on some DVR's. Try making another username and password on your local DVR and try logging in with that. If that doesnt work, try doing a factory default reset and starting over.

You could always switch your DVR back to NTSC and just use the network viewer and not use a monitor at all, of course you would need to make sure that you get your network configured before you switch over to NTSC. Or, if you have a VGA input on your monitor, just use it as I do not think those are susceptible to PAL and NTSC video standards. I could be wrong thought about that but I was able to get a PAL dvr onto my NTSC TV that had a VGA input and the display worked just fine.

This is gonna sound like a pretty basic recommendation, but is there an option on the remote software to "Open the Cameras"?

Just curious as to what the point of the original post was.

This site is alive and kicking Show us the back of the camera and we'll show you where the wires go. Its pretty simply with AC power, you simply put one wire into one input and one wire into another, polarity is not an issue so you cant get your wires crossed. Most generally, the ground input, if there is one, does not need to be utilized.

Darn Americans, always wanting too much for their stuff, LOL. Tom, is it for a specialty DVR such as an SDI or Hybrid type or just regular analog?

After viewing the recordings, you shouldn't notice any difference at all in the resolution if they are basically the same camera but just different TVL. You may notice a difference pre-recording but I doubt it. There is alot more than TVL that makes a good camera, good low light performance, noise reduction, white balance, gain control, etc. all contributes to the overal picture quality.

I, myself am not looking for any DVR's. From what I gathered, the OP was looking for an american made DVR and I do not know of any. Most of Bosch, Pelco, and all of those other big name CCTV brands get their DVR's made in Korea. But I agree with you that there are alot of good brand name DVR's with a presence and good customer service in the USA.

I agree with Nimrod. Check ebay. You can probably find one for less than $10. For the time it will take to jack with this you could get one sent to you in the mail quicker and less painful.

I dont know of any mainstream DVR's that are made in the USA right now. Does anyone else?

I dont think it is compatible with IE9 yet. Have you tried using IE8 to see if that helps? Also, not sure if this will help or not but you can try going to Tools>Compatibility Mode Yes, you can do both. Rory on here has some downloads available on here that you can try. I am sure he will pop in any second.

I actually enjoyed having him as a member until he started all the BS about IP cameras and monitor sizes.

times pie.........

My guess is that it would be financially out of reach to 98.53.76.99% (rounded to the nearest decimal) of the general public.

PM me with prices too.

I'm not saying they havent researched their customer base, nor have I said they arent reputable companies, etc. I am just saying that there are several brand name companies that charge way too much for their products, my example was the honeywell camera that is more than twice as much as the CNB camera. That is crazy. If I had a choice to by product A or product B and they were the same exact product but Product A was twice as much as product B, which product do you think I am going to buy? Thats my point. And thats how MOST customers think, does that make it right? I dont know, but thats how it is. That is crazy, and you would go out of business really quick, more dumb than crazy. But we are not talking about obviously cheap equipment that noone can use, we are talking about good brand name equipment compared to equipment that is just as equal but with a 10 times higher price tag. Take CNB for example, Good camera, good brand, good warranty. If a supplier purchased the camera at $120 and sold it at $125, that is crazy in my opinion, I wouldnt do it. But its not real crazy for the buyer to buy it. If I am a buyer and I see the camera for sale for $125 from store A and store B has it for sell for $250. You can bet that most people will buy it from Store A, you can try to sell all the warranty, tech support, etc jive all you want, but the majority of people will buy the cheaper camera. This is why we dont sell CNB anymore, too many other stores selling it for cheaper. But I dont blame the buyer for buying it cheaper because I would do the same thing. Now I will say that there are some products that just dont compare and it would make alot more sense to buy the more expensive product, actually there are alot of cases like that. But when you are comparing 2 of the same products, or essentially the same, with essentially the same warranty details and all of that, people are always going to go with the cheaper product. And you see big companies going down or hurting financially all the time because of cheaper and better alternatives, it happens. Examples, Blockbuster, companies invested totally in Cable TV, AOL. Just look at the prices that DM,Pelco, and Honeywell charge for their DVR's and equipment, and look at the prices that you can get just as an equally comparable DVR and/or equipment for from Avermedia, Dahua, CNB, its usually a quarter less. Brand recognition combined with high prices will only get you so far, they may be getting away with it now, but unless they change their pricing strategy, I see them hurting in a few years. I mean when do you really here of people buying new Honeywell surveillance camera equipment nowadays? Good thing Honeywell has so much other stuff to diversify its portfolio with. And other than their PTZ's, I dont really hear of hardly anyone purchasing new Pelco cameras or DVR's anymore. This is just another reason why noone buys HDCCTV, because IP cameras and equipment are cheaper and better. You can try to push the limited number of advantages that it has over IP but when all things considered, it make a ton more sense to buy IP. Again, people are not dumb. Sorry to hijack the thread. I'll leave it alone from here. Boy that DSS software is cool, LOL.

This market is just like anything else, the demand for a cheaper product yet just as high performance product is always going to be there and manufacturers recognize that so they will continue to find ways to produce them. The web is just another revolution that changed the industry. And just with any market trend, you have to find ways to survive and adapt. Despite what the industry is like, people are still going to want installers. I havent really met an installer that has low margins. I know that there are still alot of installers that make very good money, probably some on this very board. I think that they deserve every penny of it because it is hard work. I disagree with your statement that a Honeywell DVR would last longer than a Dahua DVR, I dont see that happening. Hard drives go bad but DVR's usually dont. And as far as features, to most end users, they do exactly the same and in some cases the Dahua exceeds in performance, the same can be said against many other high value brand name DVR suppliers as well. But this gets to my point, customers are not dumb, when comparing a Dahua DVR with say a dedicated micros DVR, they see that the Dahua in essence does everything a DM can do, but the Dahua costs 1/4 less, why in the world would they buy a DM? To me, the DM is like a Gucci or Prada product, its basically just as good as any purse that you could get from Target but you are paying for the brand name (sorry for the bad analogy, no I am not a purse fanatic). Unfortunately, this is how I think some of the major brands in the surveillance industry have become, eg honeywell, pelco, DM, etc. Just look at the price difference between a CNB camera and the same exact Honeywell camera, its crazy, what are they smoking.

Just curious as to why you stopped dealing with Dahua?

Ha ha, no schooling meant. I was just seeing if I was missing something. I hear ya on that one.

How much was the Bosch EX12?

Hey Rory. I am glad you are reviewing it, I was curious how it was. I cant see the advantages of using DSS over PSS as I dont know a whole lot about it. Can you explain what the advantages would be?

I'm not a hard drive or computer expert but how? Logic would seem to say that it would be the other way around because it would mean the hard drive would save more files. To me, it would seem that the difference would be minimal. I'm not doubting you, I could be totally wrong, but just wondering so I could learn. I am not trying to be argumentative but to me, it would still seem dis-advantageous to do that. If you had to rewind and FF it would seem better to have a larger pack file. If you had say, several 5 minute files, you would have to Fast Forward until it reaches the end of the files and once it would get to the end, you would have to start another one, and once that one gets to the end you would have to start another one. And if you wanted to rewind it and you rewound it all the way to the beginning, you would have to go into the menu and start another one. It would seem easier to have longer pack times so that you would have several long continous video files to prevent the constant stopping and going of playback. The only advantage I could see of having lower pack times is if you are downloading it over the internet, but even then, you can still download the specific time that you want as opposed to downloading a certain pack time. If you needed to search for a specific time and you knew it happened around 12:45, you can simply search for the specific time starting at 12:45 and start the video then, you would not have to start at 12:00 at the beginning at the pack time. You can do this right at the DVR and over the network. This was the premise behind my original post regarding this subject. Why would you want to download the whole pack time when you dont have to? You can download time specific clips specified by you. You dont have to download the entire pack time over the network either, you can download a specific time too. And when I mean backup, I just mean backup the specific time that something happened. Thats not hard, you just play the process of time elimination like I stated in my previous post. But if you did have to search the whole day, to me it would seem better to have longer pack files to avoid the stopping and going as I stated above. You can with the Dahua DVR's as well, thats why I am curious as to why anyone would want to download the whole pack time.

Yes your hard drive would be saving a 60 minute file but what is the different between (1) 60 minute file and (6) 10 minute files or (12) 5 minute files if you are a direct DVR user. In essence they are saving the same amount of space. It would actually be coutner productive to lower the pack time if you are a direct DVR user because you would constantly be having to "stop and go" to view the video files If I notice something missing from my lot such as a car, I just play the process of time elimination to see when it went missing. I simply start out at 10 pm and I will notice the car is still there, then I view it at 2:00 AM and notice the car is gone, okay then I view it at 11 and see the car is there, and view the scene a 1 AM, and so on and so forth until I pinpoint the time that it happened. I finally find out that it happened between 12 and 1 AM. Actually the specific time is 12:10 to 12:22. Not I would simply go into the Backup and save that clip to a USB drive and choose the backup time from 12:10 to 12:22 it would be a 12 minute video clip specific to that time frame, regardless if my pack time was set at 60 minutes. You dont have to save the whole 60 minute pack time just to get the 12 minute clip.

I assume now that you are talking about the network viewer and/or PSS and I understand what you mean. I forgot that you were a die hard PSS user. I'm a die hard direct DVR user. We were on different pages. I was talking about controlling it right at the DVR where no downloading would need to be done. What I meant was just search through records and find the time that the incident happened and then select the specific time through the backup method. But yes if your viewing it over the network, then you would have to download the whole pack time to view it. But to be honest, if it were me searching for an incident that happened, I wouldn't be trying to find it via the download method unless I really had no choice. It seems much easier and quicker to search the recordings right at the DVR as opposed to waiting for 1 large file to download or several small files to download. Pack time really becomes irrelevant when you are right at the DVR when video files pull up in an instant.