Dirk_D

take a few lead fishing weights and put them in a large tablespoon, then take a BNC cable (or RCA), then what you say..... another RJ45. Melt the lead weights in the spoon and then (*important*), while still molten, shove the BNC/RJ45/RJ45 splitter into the molten lead. Blow on it a bit to cool, and then plug in your equipment to make sure everything works as expected. >>>>just kidding. If you go analog you'll need 1 pair for power, one pair for video, and one pair for the RS485 (ptz) data. Sounds like you have 7 conductors - give it a shot and let us know how it works. I'm just getting into POE, which it sounds like you're playing with, and I don't know the rules to that yet.

I am really enjoying Axxon Next (free version). I'll be buying (& selling) the real deal soon, I think. I'm going to learn a little more and probably build a heavier duty server (headless, maybe, unless it can't run the AutoZoom without the head). Really incredible analytics, much better than GV so far, and way more intuitive....but software that's this customizable is bound to have a learning curve. The co sent me pricing, it's about $300 for the full version (16ch) but it's $105/channel for channels 17+ along with whatever IP device you might have. I figure the 1TB version will allow me to play with it and work within (beyond) its limitations. Very nice so far.

Thanks AK357! (he helped with a remote session & phone call & demo) Now I have a few more things to experiment with.

connect it to your network and install the *client software* on other machines (computers/phones etc) you want to view from, or you can just use a web browser to view most DVRs. This is called a Headless System, and I know on all the analog systems I've played with the controls aren't as nice as being at the DVR, but today I was playing with a NVR from a remote machine and it was much better.

Does their return policy seem unreasonable to you?

http://fourpair.blogspot.com/2005/03/how-far-can-i-run-cat-5e-or-cat-6.html

If POE switches weren't so expensive they'd make more sense, I think this is how I'll do it: (my bright idea of the morning) That's a 32 channel Dahua NVR on the lower right: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6102331342.html and a Digital Loggers switch on the left: http://shop.bizsyscon.com/digital-loggers-web-power-switch-7-web-script-and-program-control/?gclid=COyZlf-Cxb4CFbRxMgod0hgAHA 3mp bullets I've ordered to experiment with: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6102331341.html also a 2 MP PTZ: http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6102331341.html

nope - I'll post when I figure it out.

I don't want to stop anyone from pursuing their dream, but.... .....myself included.....

Here's the email from Netgear I received after registering the switch: Dear Dirk, Thank you for registering your product. Please print a copy of this email for your record. It contains important information which is required to obtain service. Notes: • Refer to your local ProSupport phone number when calling NETGEAR for support. • Retain a copy of the proof of purchase for your NETGEAR unit. • Make sure that NETGEAR Registration Portal has the correct physical address where the covered unit is located. Incorrect or incomplete address may delay the timely delivery of service when needed. Promptly update the address on record when you relocate the unit. Customer Number : x Product Number : x Serial Number : x Type : Onsite NBD Replacement - NA, 3 Yrs HW Purchased Date : 29 May 2014 Onsite Coverage Expiration Date : 28 May 2017 ProSupport Phone Numbers: Australia 1300 361 254 Austria 0800 202 314 Belgium 0800 58 093 France 0800 302 811 Germany 0800 101 5704 Ireland 1800 251 078 pin 1470 Luxembourg (Deutsch) 0049 180 590 59 59 Luxembourg (Francais) 0033 820 88 71 77 Netherlands 0800 020 58 84 UK 0808 234 4027 United States 866 842 7419 Onsite Hardware Replacement Support NETGEAR, at its discretion, will provide services using a combination of remote technical remediation, advanced hardware replacement and onsite hardware replacement. In the event of a hardware failure, NETGEAR will provide the following support: • Ship a replacement unit for Next Business Day (NBD)* arrival • Dispatch a technician to arrive onsite who will o Back up and copy the configuration files** (if necessary) o Remove the failed unit o Install the replacement unit (including restoring the configuration file) o Test to ensure that the replacement unit is operational o Package the failed unit and leave it with you for pick up • Coverage & response time: 9 AM – 5 PM, Next Business Day * Calls must be received and replacement authorization must be issued before 2 PM (local time) to receive NBD replacement support. Pre-registration of the products is required to ensure NBD service delivery ** See customer responsibilities on backup of configuration files Terms and Conditions http://onsite.netgear.com

I've been playing around in the switch for a while and I can't seem to figure out how to cycle the power on the ports yet - any pointers on what to look for?

it used to be really frowned upon, but I'm loosening my policy on it.

I have a stack of used Pelco (I think) sequential switchers like the one linked. Since you only need 2, you set the other 2 to 'BYPASS' and it'll do what you want. I'm not overly eager to get rid of them but feel free to pm me if you can't get anywhere.

I kind of figured as much - I wonder why you'd link a non POE switch at all.

I'm definitely interested... I especially like (the idea of) being able to filter the recorded data for your results. I'll be trying this. I hope it's easier to work with than Geovision I really liked the *idea* of that......supporting it (gv) - nope.

I've always liked Netgear's equipment, and I think you're wrong - all 24 ports are POE and can be increased to POE+ with an external power supply: http://www.netgear.com/business/products/switches/managed/M4100-26-POE.aspx#tab-techspecs Netgear ProSafe M4100-26-POE: 24-port 10/100 PoE Managed L2+ Switch (FSM7226P) :$269 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product I have a friend who's a Cisco rep, I'll hit him up. I have one on the way, wish me luck. I'm also not past the idea of making my own injectors, but I'll work on that when I have more time & equipment to experiment with.

Have you considered using traditional alarm system sensors (motion / magnetic) instead of 'motion' as determined by your DVR? If your DVR supports this (sensor inputs) it could be set up to send the occasional event as it happened. I've thought of a few other options like controlling the power to a switch that would be set up between the router & DVR with a mechanical or web based power switch, but motion detectors seem like your best option.

Dahua ESDV-NVRX-32 http://www.nellyssecurity.com/recorders/nvrs/16-or-more-channels/Dahua-esdv-nvr-32-32-channel-nvr-hi-def-network-video-recorder-no-hard-drive-i-will-install-my-own-hard-drive.html -OR- Dahua NVR4232 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dahua-NVR-8-16-32CH-1U-Network-Video-Recorder-NVR4208-4216-4232-1-HDMI-1-VGA/1772044890.html It looks there's more IO sensors/relays on the Dahua, & I know the guys @ Nelley's will support it, change logos & part #s... Maybe I just answered my own question... Preferences?

Damn. .....shopping around a little - I'm only seeing generic switches @ most of my CCTV vendors, and I'm not getting much better @ larger suppliers (maybe $20). So far, it looks like the m4100 is the best option? Any landmines? I see the first one listed is not managed, is that a huge disadvantage? Now I need to read up on the POE / POE+ specs I guess. Maybe later. SF100D-16P-NA: $186.39 - not managed http://www.amazon.com/CISCO-SYSTEMS-SF100D-16P-NA-Port-100/dp/B007RVXKTS Netgear ProSafe M4100-26-POE: 24-port 10/100 PoE Managed L2+ Switch (FSM7226P) :$269 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G15X0910&cm_re=M4100-26-POE-_-33-122-530-_-Product Cisco SG300-20 (SRW2016-K9-NA) 20-port Gigabit Managed Switch: $324 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833150090&cm_re=managed_poe_switch-_-33-150-090-_-Product

The top one would be like a standard network, punched down to 568B, the other side (bottom) would be where the power was injected - punched down to 568B (using pins 1,2,3,6) but pins 4,5,7,8 or whatever would be used to send power (the pigtails hanging from below signify power). I haven't even looked at the POE & POE+ standards (or whatever they are) so this is just me fleshing out an idea. it was about the cleanest way to do a bunch of them I thought of, at first it was just a simple biscuit jack.

I kind of like the idea of this but it's $300 for 8 ports: http://www.digital-loggers.com/poe15.html I found a 24 port 10/100 switch for $329... I'll have to get a small switch to play with.

what would you do with the PTZ that requires 24VAC?

at least 16, preferably 24. Do the POE switches have the ability to cut power to individual ports? I don't have a problem with the wiring, I think it'd be simple enough and not take much time.... plus the IP switched power supply would allow me to reset the power adapters, switch, and NVR etc, while maintaining the Individually Fused status to each camera. >>>edit: the only extras is the two patch panels and the power adapters. The bullet cams take 12vdc, and the PTZ takes 24vac, so there's already a complication there.