vector18

When I work on top of an elevator in NYC, it is required an elevator person be present, the building has to announce to the tenants when the elevator is going to be shut down, and the board of directors has to approve the

time and day of shut down. Huge PITA!

I thought he was asking how to prevent spraying a dome camera? Not an ideas on how to prevent

purchasing a new dome. I would say the best way to prevent spray paint is to install the camera

out of reach, hidden, or covert.

Maybe there is a problem with the elevator Cable supplying the AC and is intermittent. Have you thought about

putting a UPS up there and plugging the camera into that?

I would like you to try taking off the cover at night and just see if it is still noisy or not......

Are you viewing them via the internet or on a local machine?

Maybe that channel is sending pre alarm image to your email, meaning it's sending the image recorded seconds

before the actual detection?

(bump) I'll take 500.00 plus shipping...........

Why did you buy B&W cameras?????

That is definitely IR reflection. Make sure the ir board is seated correctly in the housing and make sure all the IR's are not blocked by the housing or you can see them through the dome. I had one customer that angled the camera so high that the IR's were covered by the housing and the IR light was going into the lens. You can look at it at

night when they the IR's are glowing and make sure you can see every single one of them clearly.

I would say if the camera can operate at 9600 and the dvr can handle 9600, than go with 9600. The response will be slightly quicker with a higher baud rate. As far as protocol, just make sure they are both the same on camera and dvr.

I agree with what you are saying. FYI, the extra stream is for mobile streaming and main stream is for a PC using explorer or software. The reason the extra stream is lower than the main stream is because the manufacturers

know that we are using a smaller screen than a PC and our upload speed is slower than a hard wired modem.

On my iphone, cif at 15fps and 256kbps, my cameras are extremely crisp. But on my ipad in full screen mode,

it's not as crisp. Either way you look at it, I doubt you can get the same quality streaming over the internet

compared to a monitor plugged directly into your DVR.

What sort of cameras did you buy that use those wires/connectors?

This is an IC realtime EL-1000 recorded in D1 on an IC realtime dvr.

Like I said, I found many topics why 30 would be better than 15. I never said and am not saying 15 is not

close to 30 or by human eye almost impossible to distinguish. I'm simply saying that 30fps is better than

15fps and for my own preference, I want better and so do my customers. Very simple. The OP asked

this forums opinion on which products he chose, and I stated that I personally would prefer 30fps at full D1 so there

is no chance at all in missing the slightest bit of detail on recorded video. All of a sudden people are telling me

that I'm wrong and that 15fps is more than enough, and 30fps per is going to eat up my hard drive. What they should have said is, "If your on a budget and looking to save money, you can stay with the 15fps dvr because

there is not much of a difference and you can record slightly longer, just in case you go out of the country for 2 months and need to play something back that was recorded 2 months ago."

This is one of many topics I found on a quick search on google why 30 fps is recommended over 15fps.

http://neuron2.net/LVG/whichformat.html

Well, I can see the difference between 15 and 30 fps so that's all that counts. Maybe you don't have an eye for it or you just really don't care if it's a slight difference or not. But I do care and I want the best. With motion and at least a terabyte, the majority of my set ups get one month. That is MORE than enough storage so we can end the hard drive topic right now. I will repeat myself, you have your opinion, I have mine. And my opinion has brought me plenty of success and a large amount of very pleased customers!

I'm not sure what country you guys in, but where I'm from, Siamese is cheaper than cat5e. So how much does home depot charge for Siamese and how much for cat5e? Yes, I have had a bnc or two go bad, but was only due to an improper install by either another installer or a pre existing job that I took over or serviced.

Considering how reasonable DVR's have become these days, everyone of mY customers receive at least one terabyte and motion recording so do not lecture me about wasted hard drive size. Bottom line, you guys have your opinions and I have mine. I have 30 years experience and 10 work vehicles with a mechanic and helper in every truck. We do CCTV, burglar alarms, fire alarms, home audio video, and more. 90 percent of my customers are all well to do and have no problem paying my prices as long as they know I am not trying to save here and there and I use quality equipment.

And for your info, you can use megapixel cameras over coax for the person who brought that up!

First of all, an excellent low light camera STILL needs some sort of light to work. If it's pitch dark or very dark,

they are not going to be acceptable. You will need IR's. That is why I asked if there is any sort of light source

rather than saying that those cameras do not have IR's and will not work at night. Please read what I write before

critiquing.

As far as FPS, that is your opinion if it's overrated or not. I am a perfectionist and if at all possible, if it means

just to spend a couple of dollars more, I would rather install something better quality for my customers. I'd

rather not have any issues that one day something happens and once looked into the matter, the question

arises 'why did you not give us realtime at 30fps?' At least I can honestly tell myself and my customers, I

installed the best thats out there and I did not cut corners and try to save money from buying a lesser of

a product. If you want to tell your customers, 7 or 15 fps is just as good, knock yourself out.

As far as baluns, again, I am a perfectionist, I don't know how you feel about yourself. But you just mentioned

that you had 3 fail in your 5 years of installing. For me, that is NOT acceptable. Can you guess how many

baluns failed on me? That's right, NONE! I do not use them. I have had colleagues complain about them

and not only are they another thing to purchase, but in my distributor, a box of Cat5e is more expensive than

Siamese cable! So, between the cat5 and 2 baluns, your cost is more money and more of a chance of something

going bad rather than just using Siamese. Anyone that disagrees with that, should hang up their tool belt and

get into another industry.

Is there sufficient amount of light where your going to install the cameras? Those models you posted look like they are non IR. The DVR looks like it's fine, except I would prefer full D1 at 30fps rather than the 7fps that the

one you listed performs at. And lastly, if possible, run siamese cable rather than cat 5 with baluns. If you

use baluns, thats just one more thing that can go bad and you need somewhere to put the balun behind the

camera and sometimes do not have room for them.

Ok, got me on a typo, but I do know what I'm talking about. LOL

Is there anyone that 'does' understand what I said?

What part of what I said do you not understand?????

So how did you resolve it?

It all depends on FPS also, not only D1 quality. D1 is only what resolution it will record the camera. If the FPS is

not 30 or higher, you will not playback in realtime. As for streaming in D1, it also depends on connection speed

and the more cameras your viewing, the less realtime you'll be viewing because each camera will take up upload

speed and the more cameras your viewing, will slow down upload speed. If you have a DVR with full D1 every

channel and every channel 30fps, it's best to watch 2 or 3 cameras at a time if using explorer or PSS.

I'm considering purchasing a 960H dvr with 700tvl effio camera's. I searched the web and cannot find

any online demo's. Does anyone have one out there that I can access to check it out? If yes, does

it extra stream higher than CIF? Either shoot me a PM or if you don't mind, post it here so others

can check it out as well. Thanks!