Hmmmm thanks Matt et al, beginning to get the picture now well not, if you can handle a pun. There is a freeview tuner built into the pvr so i guess that is what you mean.
Obviously (i think) what your saying is the pictures from the camera are analogue and the equipment i have is digital, a bit like water and oil they don't mix, so i need third party equipment that converts analog to digital. Baring that i need a totally seperate recorder (hopefully cheap) record onto that and play it back at my leisure.
But i'm not totally convinced (he says, imagining you guys banging your heads against the wall) that i can't get what i have to do the job.
Will post pics anyway, (when i can get time from the crazy hours i work) and hopefully not try your patience too much.
many thanks again.