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thanks, seems they are not in business - I tried that. Thanks for the link to the other thread. Funny enough the drivers are automatically installed in W7, just the picture won't show up.

aeronautical engineer, obviously thanks for your effort and time.

thanks for the help, the Pico "clone" (which ofcourse is not a clone, it's just a chip on a pcb-not rocket science) ran fine for a year or so. this wave-P seems to be a real wave-p - for what that is worth. I like the 7130 ... they are really from Philips, not cloned. jee you really are p-o'd, funny

and now that I may have p1$$3d one or 2 folks off a bit Hope I didn't though, but I think you see my point, at least a bit. Question: Anybody here that knows how to get my wave-P card running? it's from EBAY-a few years ago. Came in a nice box with a professional looking cd. May actually be the real thing. The CD software won't run on my PC however. The 7130 chips are recognised by windows 7, driver installs automatically but when I connect a camera I get no picture. And I need a picture, really. I want to run it with Argus or something like that. A bit of help on this otherwise nice card with 4 7130 IC's, labeled 9404 ver 2.6, would be appreciated. Thanks for reading this anyhow.

caps rarely pop, usually only in the PSU - never seen it on any videocard. the ones on my DVR seem overrated in the first place. there is no copyright on soldering a few cheap 7130 or 848 chips on a PCB. I cought my neighbor doing damage 3 times and another one 2 times so my cctv works and since I put it together I know my stuff. but it's beside the point: calling manufacturers that solder a chip in the proper configuration on a pcb a copier is nonsense. this stuff, both hardware and software, should not be so redicully expensive and one should be able to but it separately in a simple manner without being called illegal, amateuristic or whatever. cctv isn't rocketscience - these prices and eliteness is absurt, nothing personal ofcourse.

that's both crap, Tom, I don't sell anything - I just want to buy a really simple card, which should be extremely cheap due to the components count and price of the componts used, then set it up with freely or cheaply available software. Adam, did you chck the PCB? there's nothing to copy, its just a few straight lines, one or a few video chips a controller chip and a condenser and a resistor or 2. There is no copyright on something like that. Your replies just underline the original post: the consumer is being cheated and you collaborate.

Hi Rory, It's your forum so you make the rules but I disagree with your post. 1st: If somebody, I am like that, has a security problem it is totally nomal to check on Ebay and buy cheap hardware. There is freeeware and cheap software available to make that run. If a card won't do as promised it is nothing more than logical to check on a forum, yours is called CCTVforum so it would be one of the first to look. Mind you: nothing intentionally illegal has been done yet. 2nd: Why are these cards pirated in the first place? Because the peaple you consider legitemit ask rediculous prices for there software. Then: 3rd: hardware suppliers protect these software dealers by not selling to end users. In some countries the practice of coupled sale is forbidden. 4th: The limited supply of legal good working cards makes for very little choice in cheap or free software - why write software that virtually nobody can use? 5rd: Your comparison with microsoft isn't straight. MS is selling software ... at least that's what peaple say, they are actually selling a user agreement. This is not nice in the first place so I would not take MS as an example of how it should be done. Just as importantly: they don't sell software and hardware in one package. As far as I can see this, as a simple newby: legitemit sellers/manufacturers are the big crooks, cheap hardware makers are the little ones. But for people on a limited budget with a security problem they are like Robin Hood. To cut a long story short: If a PCB with a few cheap, sometimes antique, 848-like chips (manufacturing cost of total PCBless than $50ct) can only be bought for $300-1000+ then don't (only) blame the "pirates" or the buyers of this cheap stuff. And yes-I would give these people some support. Thanks for the forum anyway, nice to see some info on this stuff, regards, Pete