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Think you're getting a little "FCC" happy" there "kg" - - go back to the beginning of the thread and I think you find that the other side of the wall is still his customer (work is at large hotel - other side of the wall is "the security department's radio"). Calling the FCC on his customer might not go over real well. Any other ideas? By the way David... you're not by chance a Ham radio operator bitter over having his over-powered linear squelched... now bent on sicking Uncle Charlie on the rest of the radioing world...are you

I vote for a fence too - - not pretty and maybe not cheap… but limiting access may just prove to be your very best first step with such a large area and so many obstacles (probably not always parked in the same place) to consider. Given a fence I’d then seriously consider a pair of very nasty dogs (reared on raw meat and then kept slightly underfed) with signage notifying of cameras and dogs that cannot be missed. Then more lighting and finally cameras to protect the dogs.

Site certainly wouldn't be useless to them (the professionals)! Seems you're seeking more than a basic understanding ("keep the great ideas and information coming" ). Better, in my opinion, to educate oneself on who the good dealer / installers in your area are – get references, talk to local folks, see some of the work they’ve done. Find someone good and trust them - - they will serve you well. (and to be honest many of the best dealer / installers in the business will have nothing to do with folks who already “know all about this stuffâ€

Short Answer: A Professional Dealer / Installer !

Not sure where you are (i.e. how remote a location) but their are lots of small companies around the country now delivering high-quality affordable point-to-point broadband to folks otherwise underserved (like maybe you are in your area) - especiially if you are not he only one in your area so underserved. Have in the past worked with customers who have benefited by such services (in my case coupled with and for the purpose of networked video) and found it to be a Godsend.

Buy the PTZ from the right guy and he'll help you with everything you need to know - I promise

Hey folks - Any suggestions appreciated. Have a Dealer / Installer locked-in on an app. for 20 cameras total (18 fixed, 2 PTZ) - 1500' max, most under 1K' - all generally to the same (central) receiving location. Needs to be analog, non-multiplexed. Line-of-sight no problem here. Familiar with Microtek product but max. out at 15 total using both 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz (together with 900MHz for PTZ data). About to check out alternatives but thought I’d start here. Any suggestions of others that can do more or are “available frequenciesâ€

No... I'm sure I could order it so long as it's not being installed in the US... don't you think?

Actually Rory... might just turn out to have been a GREAT suggestion of yours - - after a quick look at VideoComm I find that they can do 32 channels (for export only). I didn't mention that was an FCC free application (cuz I thought only of power benefits beyond the FCC's reach - - not added frequencies too). Anyway... will dig deeper. Again... thanks! By the way... have distributed the Microtek product so I can appreciate all the "watch out for's" - - used to throw all those out there too (that's why I like their more flexible return policy - - this RF stuff is voodoo black magic if you ask me. You can't see it!) Thankfully no such issues here - - just a big parking lot and I'm just selling it to the poor folks thet get to install it. All that said I certainly want to help them get it right - - don't want it to come back!

Will do Rory, thanks... and hope you've kicked that bug. You da man!

I vote for a tall spider with bad knees… in heels - - sadly trapped between the pano's lens and its housing’s window. I think it’s dead.

Hey... look at the bright side - "very little DVR storage space required" (well under 1k/image).

Failing IR Cam Screen Capture:

Thank you, thank you, thank you - - helps a lot! Now give me a little time to get some coffee in me and I'll have a thought or two for you (I'm sure some other folks will be able to do a lot with this too). Awesome start!!!

And... like some of the better ones they have a guy on-the-ground ("in country" - like China in their case I understand) that "knows decent product" and that really helps to make it work. Oh... and a guy at the top that knows what it takes to "build a brand." Personally I've never sold the stuff.

Appreciate your openness to the concept... and yeah, max 16 viewed simultaneous from any of the dvrs anywhere, grouped logically to come up on a single mouse click. Oh... and management - well you might divided the building in to 4 equal quadrants and run cams logically from there to that quadrant's DVR if things can lay out that way. "On DVR screen" labeling helps - 1/1 is DVR 1, cam 1... 2/5 is DVR2, cam 5... But back to the real question - - is it the right solution? This is the really difficult part where lots of folks seem to struggle... where one actually has to "think ... ahead ... of .... time." Still interested in answers to my earlier questions. I'm not trying to sell you on an approach but rather solve a problem. The proper approach will sell itself if it fits. Should you tell me that you don't need but a few frames per per camera per second recorded... all indoors... the most basic picture with be totally good enough... no special lighting or lensing challenges... cameras are all-over-the-place with no good home runs anywhere (like one cam per class in 28 buildings spread over 14 miles) and you have 6 million feet of Cat5E stocked in your warehouse, a great network guru on staff with nothing to do... or free broadband coming out your ears... oh and a bunch of dirrerent users that you only want to allow access to one camera each through a browser interface - - gotta be a browser interface!! Well then... man... I'm gonna recommend a bunch of 2100's and an NVR for sure. If i'm wrong about the application maybe you can clear that up without divulging stuff to protect your interests... you know.

Yeah... maybe a GEneric DVR that got the rest of it's letters ripped off...

PTZ likely running Pelco D, if Russell has his stuff together, so it should likely work, at least giving basic functionality, with most everything. Check with member JMANOFNVS on other stuff - they have kind of been "like an arm" of ARM for the last couple of years.

Actually with that number of cameras, and considering required ips/camera record rate (still unknown) and the general camera requirements and layout of those cameras (unknown) a distributed network of standalones might be a great solution (at least I have found it to sometimes be the case). Considering the cost of IP cameras, especially "specialty" cameras, the potential limitation on record rate, and potential advantages of system distribution it's worth a look. I have put distributed 4, 8, or 16 camera embeded solutions up against NVR systems and often found advantages both in cost and performance - depends, of course, on the application. Can you, without giving up "prospect" info tell us more about the application. General requirements including any "special" camera requirements like PTZ and/or low-light... and camera layout stuff (one building vs. many, indoor/outdoor, distances to one or more central locations? Also, will someone (like a guard) be monitoring or needing to control cameras and/or the system? More "application" info would help a lot!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by VST_Man: If all else fails, call NASA and ask them how they store all thier crap while in space.......... ha ha ha -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually KB they don't store it...; they push the "flush" button and release it in to space. That's why I always wear a hat

Another one for your consideration (anyone got 35K I can borrow?): http://www.vumii.com/productsitem.jsp?content=1 Product Name: Discoverii Price: $35,000.00 Company Name: Vumii, Inc. Web Address: www.vumii.com Discoverii is a day/night PTZ surveillance system that uses patent-pending laser illumination coupled with 25x optical zoom to produce natural contrast imagery in zero light with a one mile range. Users maintain situational awareness through integrated panoramic orientation software.

It's back...

No... I've been grounded. Anyway I don't think I could have sent a link to a specific location with that could I? (hey... we're not getting off topic are we?)

Well... kinda... http://maps.google.com/?t=h&ll=37.055177,-83.693848&spn=9.779621,23.950195

Great idea Rory... glad you thought of it. I'm with you - - bring it back... pleeeeeeeease !