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Where for $600? Is there a can that will fit this snugly? PM me pls.

Yeah.

Really. What is the max frames/sec you actually get at max rez, using what compression, with what software? Do you have it in a can outdoors? It says the view angle is 50 degrees, but then it also says optical zoom is 10x, so what is the max horiz angle? It's odd that the max rez in H.264 and 16:9 MJpeg is 1080; this must be a limitation of the electronics. It says it can record to SD or disk, yet there is no mention of NFS support... what disk then? I wonder for the HD3300 what is the max frames/sec you get at max rez, using what compression, with what software?

And you think this was 'called for and respectful'? Challenging me with a 250MB/s video stream just to see if I messed up the answer so you could ridicule me... I get it right and you refuse to acknowledge. Dishonest. Your true colors show at times like this, thewireguys. Customers like me are (still) reading.

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Well OK, I have to put the HIK 5Mp on the list. You're not put off by the quality and you were with Arecont, and it performs better at night. No doubt as soon as I buy 10 5Mp they'll come out with a 10Mp for the same price... Has NAS and DC iris control, though is relatively large. Exacq does not have HIK on their list, although they do support NAS and H.264. Yes thanks for pointing out the dome wire; that would be just the thing.

Very helpful Soundy, thanks. Especially about the depth of field; never would have guessed that aperture influences this. Inexplicable how restricting light would accomplish this, from a physics standpoint. I notice that some lenses have DC iris control, if the camera can control this. If one can depend on the specs the av10005 has good low-light capability ("Day/Night: 0 Lux", WTF? Maybe at 1f/s), and with an auto iris should have good depth of field during the day. With the av10005 there seems to be less low-light sacrifice than with most other cameras, although who can trust specs? Your direct experience is that the HIK is better with low light, although Chinese stuff is usually crap and is hard for me to trust. And the 5Mp costs almost twice as much as the av10005. Not so much hung up on license plate recog; just be nice to have as high a resolution as possible for all purposes. wire, I'm not even considering Avigilon, as good as they are, due to mandatory proprietary software and closed marketing channels. We are Linux only, for security reasons; real estate developer. I realize the marketing points, but I just don't like it. Great lead on the dome, thanks. Didn't realize that is a possibility.

Hm, thanks wire. Understood that it switches at night; I expect the filter gets flipped and the array is put into some kind of different mode. Seems like the Arecont could be bolted to an aluminum housing with thermal consideration, and have the housing serve as heatsink. Soundy looking for resolution first, and second a reasonable framerate of more than 4/s so as to not miss anything. Do I -need- the highest rez? -Need- is a fact, -want- is an emotion, and I won't confuse the two. I -want- a higher rez for the possibility that a theft could be solved by making out a license plate and actually proving a face. Whether it's 50' away, or 500', more rez is better, and depth of field is nice. Yeah, that lens costs twice as much as the camera, LOL. (You're keeping me in suspense on that first link...)

Ya, I've been asking my questions scattered in other threads, tho never got valid responses. I'll study the lens question. I take your HIKVision recommendation very seriously, although the highest rez they seem to have is 5Mp. Also I am a bit suspicious of the quality of Red Chinese devices. Seems like everyone has conveniently forgotten that this is Red China that we have blithely transferred our $trillions in technology and decades of research to, for free... what happened to all the Commie-haters? Oh yeah, they're unemployed because they misunderstood the meaning of 'Free Trade'. In your experience does the HIK 5Mp actually do 8f/s @2560x1920? Arecont claims 6f/s @3648x2752, although Mobotix claims 10f/s @2048x1536 and I can tell you it barely makes 20% of that. This is for office building parking lots. Sure I guess ip66 would be fine, although I was hoping for ip67. Most important is that it's almost as compact as the camera.

OK, now I understand the day/night switch issue much more clearly, thanks Soundy. Shouldn't be an issue in my situation, as it'll be standard outdoor office building monitoring. (buildings in our portfolio) Never asked for expertise... whether -what- camera would work "correctly" in my situations. Didn't ask for placement, the best model, resolution required for facial recognition, clarity, f/s at max rez (although that's what did Mobotix in), best camera for night performance or license plate recognition, or any other 'soft' factors. Only asked specifics on hardware, like quality brand lens options for 90 degree FOV (as Arecont's are not well-regarded), and a compact IP67 enclosure, and my worry that there may be a firmware problem in night/day switch, which it now is clear there does not seem to be. I'll keep looking though, and I'm sure I'll find something.

+1000 Yeah, I'm going to pass on that. I am going to buy the Arecont 10 Mp, but I've asked and asked here about lenses, enclosure, etc, not even able to get the simplest information like whether it correctly switches from night-day. The absolute only information I have is what I have managed to dig up myself. And yet I see that several here have installed many of this same camera... the only reason they do not respond is their commercial/mercenary intent. Attitudes like this lead to me making a bad mistake on the Mobotix M12, losing $hundreds. The purpose of a forum like this is to share information. Those like thewireguys are here only to -take- and -take-, like parasites, so I will do the same. Now, in this I do not refer to Soundy, Sawbones, and a couple of others who actually share information, but those who have admitted installing this camera and have remained mute.

I give up. Apparently wireguys has forgotten what is in the first page of this thread.

Take it easy... I am asking one simple question. You don't have to answer it if you don't want to or if you don't know.

... and I lose another couple hundred dollars if it doesn't do what the specs say. (as was the case with Mobotix) Looks like no one knows about the night/day switch with the Arecont 10.

Absolutely no reviews out there. Any input?

Has anyone tried the Arecont 10Mp for switch between night /day? I'd hate to go down another blind alley like the Mobotix M12. Very disappointed in them. That disaster cost me several hundred dollars by the time I sold the camera, despite the extensive research I'd done.