ljarrald

Ive been kidnapped twice. 1st time they just took me somewhere and pulled a gun and took my shoes. 2nd time as they sped up a road deep into some ghetto and shouted they were "killing a white boy today" I jumped from the car then they preceded to run me down 3 times, but I managed to get away into some apartment complex. There was no CCTV, no witnesses - they got away with it likely to do it again and probably kill the next time. I had 3 guys attack me one night with knives in a club, I ended up jumping from the 2 storey balcony but they gave chase and I fought them off further down the road - no CCTV anywhere in site, no witnesses - they got away. Ive been robbed at gunpoint more times than I can remember, during the day and at night. I was attacked by 2 crackheads with homemade axes one night, I ended up fighting them off for a whole hour for a few hundred feet up a road, ended up right in front of the government house and nobody saw anything - there was no CCTV anywhere. They then preceded to run back and steal my vehicle. They were however caught but were just charged with pushing me on the ground and got a few months in jail - no witnesses to the attempted murder. Before they attacked, they were adamant that they just got out of jail and didnt care about going back, why would they if each time they are caught trying to kill someone they only get a few months in jail since the charges dont even fit the crime. Driving down the road one night there were big rocks across the road - an empty car was sitting there with the door open, and then as I slowed down a big rock came flying through my window. I sped off through a small opening in the rocks and drove straight to the police station. The next day we found out supposedly a mother and daughter had been pulled from that empty car and beaten and raped. This happened again just a year ago at another location where they caused you to pull off the road to get around it then they attack - but I drove through it then called the cops further down the road, meanwhile a woman had her window smashed out and barely got away alive. No CCTV, no witnesses. What's worse is 45 minutes later I saw 2 cops at the gas station and when I told them about it, the call was just coming over the radio. There are countless stories like this. And I'm one of the lucky ones. Other victims have been killed. Not once did any of those violent criminals wear masks - people that rob stores wear masks. You can spend an eternity trying to advocate for the removal of CCTV in public but be certain there are more of us out there that will make sure it is installed. well the sun sounds like a pretty bad place. if this area was like that then i would welcome the cctv. but it is not. it is a nice small town in a big city. they could setup a neighbourhood watch scheme and give the software to all participating members and have it on a rotor or something so the community watches its self. i would prefer that then some man i do not know looking at me from a control room.

How do you know this? Have you asked EVERYBODY? i have asked alot of people. not one has said they did. so yes, you got me... i shall rephrase nobody that i have spoken to actually asked for these, nobody living in the houses who's windows and doors are overlooked by the cameras was asked and the cameras do not even have digital masks over the windows and doors..

i have been mugged actually. in broad daylight, when i was 9 years old by some older teenagers. they would of done it if there was CCTV anyway. schools all have cctv EVERYWHERE! yet people still beat other people up right infront of them. like anything... people become immune to cctv. all the law abider's will forget about them, the criminals will just wear masks when they mug people. a camera is not going to stop anything and frankly, i would feel far more scared if a couple of guys in balaclavas showed up and demanded my phone.

oh i see what you mean now. open new youth clubs then remove the cameras. your from manchester ??? did you see in your local paper 45 year old woman raped walking home all caught on cctv a local 58 year old scum guy . what has that got to do with getting kids off the streets. no. not open new ones, don't close down existing ones! i know lots of scummy kids. when they go to youth clubs they learn how do be normal, yeah it does not really do that much but when they are there they enjoy themselves, stay off the streets and stay out of trouble. the government has made huge cuts to them forcing alot of them to close, yet they can still afford to shove cctv up where it is not wanted. i did not hear about that rape incident. but whilst the CCTV footage would of helped alot, they could of found the guy without it. like i say, i do not have any problem at all with CCTV that records, is displayed on a live screen for a security guard in a premises to glance at every now and again or they watch in detail (live or recorded) due to an incident. it is when you have a control room with like 50 odd camera feeds and they can watch people moving from one place to another live. one foot out of line and bam, nee noor, nee nor. i am not saying this has happened to me, and yes i am one of many people the cctv looks at so yes, i am being paranoid but i have every right to be until it has been proven to me i do not need to be. also, monitored CCTV in town centers is not really a bad thing, nor is private CCTV in shopping malls as once you leave, they don't know where you are. its when you walk less than one mile and 98% of your walk is on bloody CCTV. i do not want this, at all. just read that last bit back, i meant 98% is on council cctv. shop cctv and cctv in peoples homes is fine, not got a problem with it!

[quote="tomcctv"][quote="ljarrald"]and whilst they are spending millions shoving cameras in everyones faces, they cut money away from services that help communities! [/quote] is that not what they are doing. a service for the community.[/quote] no, not really! nobody has actually requested these... if they kept the youth clubs open then the troublesome kids would be busy in there, not on the streets where the cctv needs to keep an eye on them.

try a VHS to dvd converter but instead of plugging a VHS in, plug the output of your dvr in. find the incident, press record on the dvd thing and play it back. not ideal but will work

is there an Ethernet port?

what do you need 32 relays for!?

amazing! you remind me of me. when i get my camera charger working i'll post some of my stuff old electronics are amazing to collect... horder... naah. just sensible one day, when i have my house in the countryside... maybe i will make something like this. use a telescopic lens or something

went out today and spotted 3 new council cameras. seriously! i walked less than a mile. this means that since jan, 5 have gone up. how many more do they want? and whilst they are spending millions shoving cameras in everyones faces, they cut money away from services that help communities!

You could try that, but then they have the right to defend their property and therefore they may end up beating you to a pulp - they are not breaking the law but you are the minute you take physical action against them, hence any returned action by them is self defence - it is not illegal for them to film in a public area. Again, if you arent doing anything illegal then you have nothing to worry about. Most citizens welcome the use of CCTV in public, be it on the street, a car park, or in a store. If you dont like it, then dont go outside, have groceries delivered or drive a car with tint. so really, if i don't like public cctv then the only option is to become a Muslim woman? (no offence or racism intended)

Yes DVRs record 24/7 a DVR is not a digital camera though is it? (assuming we are talking about compact/SLR cameras that people carry around

ebay! dont be shocked, i buy ALL my cameras, PIRs, DVRs, etc from ebay. most (but not all) are second hand. just because they are second hand, does not mean they are sh!t. just means they are not factory fresh. usually they are taken from buildings due to be demolished, or if shops have closed down or whatever. just dont outbid me on anything each of my cameras i have won for about £35, new from factory they would be around £150 so huge savings!

No I was 100% Correct - you are NOT forced to go into public. Digital cameras are - cameras - cell phones have - cameras. If you want to get rid of cameras in public, then you have to get rid of ALL of them, and that includes getting rid of cellphones and digital cameras. Really though, you guys that live in your little dreamy towns with no crime might not understand, but after seeing murder after murder on the streets around here, most of which never get solved, CCTV certainly does more good than bad and would help greatly in the apprehension and prosecution of murders and rapists. so you are saying if we don't want to be spotted on CCTV we should never leave our houses? digital cameras aren't recording 24/7 are they? everyone monitors what is going on around them with their own eyes. everyone in the area can see who is watching them. if a car started to speed up towards a group of pedestrians and someone whipped out a camera and pressed record then fair enough, if someone followed me around with a camera on record i would rip it out of their hands and snap the memory card in two. monitored CCTV is like a 1 way mirror, we can see what its looking at, but we can't see who is looking at it!

second that! you put that amazingly, its what i have been trying to say, just not saying properly. (btw, look up and download PREY)

would that be the one that monitors the bus lane and sits between blockbuster and KFC in rush hour? i don't like these very much! and i agree, whilst protests are going on, these things are sitting in a garage. though, if you took it into a protest it'd get destroyed for sure! if one person was on the roof swinging from the pole, the whole thing would fall over.

Fa chris. you do know that while you are walking down a street that has cameras the operator does not have a clue who you are. so how can it be an invasion. most street cameras in america can be logged into by anyone. am 3500m away from DC but i can log in to any of there cameras just as i can in NY/NC/SC florida atlanta. they are put in with your money for you to also use. going on a long drive .... look at traffic (beat the jams) i had this very idea! i thought it may be useful round here. i live in an OK area but at night it can be a bit dodgy, i was thinking it would be good to check if there were any dodgy types lurking around the road before i got there. but what if THEY used it? what if i lived in a house that this camera over looked? what if i had pissed someone off and they wanted my head on a plate? whats to stop them logging into the camera, waiting for me to open my front door then ring a mate and give the signal to pounce? what if someone is using a screen recorder at the same time that someone gets stabbed and posts it on youtube?

what about GSM tracking devices? (AKA mobile phones?) sure, they cant see where everyone was at a specific time, but they CAN track the whereabouts of a certain phone. we are already there...

because this camera was not monitored, i would not have a problem with it. they didn't search through the footage zoming in on everyone did they? nope, just the sick man.

WRONG! you CHOOSE to go into shops with CCTV. yes, we CHOOSE to go on the streets that have cctv, but most of the time it is the only way to get to point B. we should not be forced to be under CCTV. there is every right for wall mart and the like to have CCTV as it is a private premises! i don't understand where cell phones and digital cameras come into it (unless you are talking about how they can track our phones at any time weather on or off.)

half agree, half disagree. cctv is good but monitored cctv where it is not needed is not! i think that if cctv was on every street corner, i would feel uncomfortable. i think where it is needed (town centers, high streets with pubs and clubs on) cctv should be monitored and controlled by a control center. however where it does not need to be monitored i think it should only record and only be replayed if for example, a car has been stolen. or someone has been attacked, or if the police are tracing the path of a murderer or rapist or something. private CCTV is another matter. i have put CCTV around my house and even on my neighbours houses (after them showing a keen intrest and me offering). although the risks that cctv footage of me falling on my @rse in the ice is more likely to be posted on youtube if captured by personal cctv and the chances are non existent with council operated CCTV, i prefer private systems as they do not have the power to track my exact movements from A to B, only my movements in or around their property which is fair enough. one of my cameras came under attack by a guy who liiked about 16ish. he walked up the alley, looked at the camera, shoved his face into it (clever boy!) and then lobbed a brick at it. thankfully the anti vandal camera survived, but that is not the point. in the first couple of weeks after the cctv was installed i saw gangs of youths who i know (i say know, i know who they are) and they know that i live there all sticking up fingers, shouting, swearing, bigging up (u wot, u wot) to the cameras (i find it funny that they were bigging up to an inadamate object). this intimidated me as i felt like if i bumped into them in the street i would get **** off them. i have not yet bumped into them since the cameras going in. bottom line is, i could of: A: given the stills and footage to the police, let them do their enquiries and got the kid done for criminal damage (though it would probably only come to a caution) but then the kid would come back, kill the camera and then kill me if he saw me (because scum can't think logically) or i could leave it. i decided to leave it but i have the file saved, so if he does it again i will send both lots of images to the police. is it legal to post some stills of him and what he did on here? he did break the law so does that make it okay? EDIT: -------------------------------- forgot to say... i also check out the cctv systems in banks and stuff. i often think 'i could do such a better system for probably the same amount, or less than they paid!

fa chris, i totally agree with you. i can see why cameras on high streets would be useful in areas where there are alot of pubs/clubs and binge drinkers but when the council decided to put a 24/7 monitored PTZ CCTV camera in the alley, that was taking it too far! the council did not ask any of us if we wanted it, they just stuck it to a lamp post. i took it upon myself to speak to everyone it affected and not one person wanted a cctv camera that was monitored by a fat bloke we do not know sitting in a control room. we asked the council to take it down and they refused which is why we took it upon ourselves to disable the camera (disable, not vandalise or destroy) the council soon came and removed it. oh, and let me point out there were NO SIGNS AT ALL and they didn't give a reason as to why the camera was installed. you are right about the microphones too, how do we know there are not already microphones in some places? the government already tap into phone calls and emails. this world is beginning to be a real life 'truman show' but instead of millions of people focused on one main person and a couple of hundred people related to him, its a couple of hundred people continuously monitoring millions of people. here is one of the cctv cameras installed by the council. it is at the end of a street. none of the houses on the street are owned by the council and again, nobody asked for the camera. what right do the council have to know exactly what time and date the people living in these houses come and go from their homes?

ahh right okay, in that case i'll just add the camera and if the PSU can't handle it, i'll add another one and see how it goes. thanks!

hi, in my shed i have: 3 cameras, one PIR and 2 viper vibration sensors. they all connect to the same PSU via one wire. my neighbour has asked me to put another camera on the side of my shed facing into his garden. this camera will have a viper sensor inside the housing like the other two cameras (in case it gets hit with a brick again) so that will be more load on the psu. i have another psu identical to the one already in use (battery backed up and stuff) so i am thinking of wiring it in series with the other one. would this blow them? should i put a diode on the + of each PSU? should i not do it full stop? i really don't want to have to use a new PSU.

a bit similar yes.baisically (sorry i forgot to mention) i am not sure if the output is 1A or 3A. it says one thing on the pcb and another on the sticker inside :/ the psu's are supposed to be for access control. how important is it for each device to be fused?