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Hey everyone, back after a few years and looking to go IP/POE to replace my two remaining analog dome cameras (CNB-VCM-24). Looking for 8 cameras for around the exterior of the house. Costco kits around $1,200 have terrible reviews, which kept me away from IP. But GW and Reolink are also around that price on Amazon and to my astonishment seem to have good reviews. Then I read some kits are re-badged Dahua products (some Lorex?) and also see information about Hikvision. GW (I would probably go with turret cameras as they look more compact to me) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AYQ46GS/ref=twister_B0170VO3J0?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 So I am quite overwhelmed, is there an obvious choice at this price-point. Thanks, John

Been wading through posts and posts. Still don't know who makes what (re-badged dahua or hikvision, etc) Saw this on the Lorex site, black Friday sale. https://www.lorextechnology.com/hd-nvr-ip-cameras/8-channel-2k-resolution-home-security-system-with-8-ip-cameras/2KHDIP844D-1-p#featuresSection This looks like it was a great deal a few months ago. Currently the kits available at costco don't look too good. https://slickdeals.net/f/10409612-lorex-dahua-oem-6x-4k-8mp-security-camera-system-w-8-port-poe-ip-nvr-2tb-hdd-kit-at-costco-b-m-ymmv-for-799-99 Thanks, John

Any opinions would be appreciated. The more I search around, the more I am confused, haha.

I installed a basic analog system out at my mothers house early 2012, with a 8-channel DVR, and a variety of cameras from various places (thanks for the help). At the time most all home-survelance talk seemed to be analog, and the CNB VBM-24V, was the great camera considering price, construction, performance. On "black friday" I picked up a $60 4-channel DVR from a local store, and a few cheap cameras to monitor my driveways (one CNB VBM-24V). Not really too pleased with the picture quality (since I actually have a monitor here next to my desk on 24/7), but it gets the job done, allowing me to see when the someone pulls up, etc (basically same pic quality out at my mothers with better DVR). Logging on here recently I see more talk about IP, including a Costco kit for $700 including a 1TB HD. http://www.costco.com/Q-See-4-Channel-HD-Digital-NVR-with-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-4-HD-720p-IP-Cameras.product.100003211.html One thread said they are coming out with an 8-channel, someone said the 4-channel ones are actually shipped with an 8-channel NVR now. Are there any drawbacks to IP over analog? A decent analog camera like a CNB is $100-$150 each. The IP images are insane, not sure I want to put more money into my analog system here, and insted pick up a Costco kit, additional cameras are $300 for 2. Thanks, John

I called up Q-see asking about the difference between these kits: http://www.costco.com/Q-See-16-Channel-IP-NVR-with-3TB-HDD%2c-12-3MP-Cameras-with-100'-Night-Vision.product.100220054.html#BVRRWidgetID http://www.costco.com/.product.100213199.html?cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-CategorySiloedViewCP&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight|CategorySiloedViewCP#BVRRWidgetID Q-see said basically the only difference between the NVR is the hard disc capacity (2 drives vs. 4). How much clearer is the 4mp vs. 3mp camera. Q-see said it will basically only be noticeable when using digital zoom or if displayed on a very large screen.

That is quite tempting. What do you think about the Swann kit? http://www.costco.com//.product.100144944.html?utm_campaign=bazaarvoice&utm_medium=SearchVoice&utm_source=RatingsAndReviews&utm_content=Default I wish these systems had better reviews, the Swann looks decent.

Thanks. Their videos say ONIF-S compatible. Does that mean that I can add cameras by other manufacturers? Adding a HD is no big deal. Do you see any reason to spend over twice the price of this system on the Lorex? My thoughts are to keep the price as low as possible when dealing with electronics since a couple years from now there will likely be a much better product out. I searched around for Costco's return policy on electronics... it's 90 days. I have heard it used to have no limit, which would probably scam them a lot.

Thanks! Searching around I found a thread you replied to suggesting this system http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16881183053&cm_re=laview-_-81-183-053-_-Product The company has a few how-to videos, it looks really good for the price.

TWO YEARS LATER... Where are we with digital/NVR? In the next couple months I plan on moving my camera system to another house... have [under or about $1,000 with 6-8 camers] IP systems gotten "better" (more user friendly, I recall folks talking about hours of networking work after install, having issues with recording only with motion, etc). Do they still have user interfaces that look like they are from the 1990's? Thanks, John

For the money, this looks pretty damn good, the DVR has a much nicer setup compared to my mega-cheapie I am currently using. I am starting to think a lot of the "cheaper" cameras are about the same quality. I do have a couple VCM-24VF cameras that are built like tanks (and look "professional"), but have a similar picture to a couple other cheaper ones I bought for my moms house. http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/203898956?productId=203898956&storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=203898956&ci_src=17588969&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googleads-_-pla-_-203898956&ci_gpa=pla#.Uh6ga7zAPx8 http://www.bjs.com/q-see-8-channel-h264-cifd1-itb-hard-drive-and-7-high-res-color-cameras-1-pointtilt-with-600-tvl-and-100-of-night-vision.product.230637?dimId=

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Howdy all, still looking for something better than what I have, looks like IP stuff is about the same, there was a Lorex kit I noticed here for $800, but still plenty of complaints about configuration, etc. The clear picture is great though... I have a monitor here next to my computer on all the time to see the driveways, no real security concerns just nice to look at and see who is coming. My DVR is probably the worst part of the system, playback is awful, and I would like 8-channels (few more cameras). As much as box kits are frowned upon here, I am tempted to look into one as some have decent reviews especially for the money (better DVR than mine) to hold me over until IP stuff gets more budget-mainstream.

Not surprised. Generally "pros" of anything charge about twice the best internet price I can find on anything, money is made on parts (usually charge retail). Get something fixed on your car, I bet you can find the part for half price on the internet.

BJ's has the 8 channel and 4 cameras for $800. http://www.bjs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10201&storeId=10201&partNumber=P_151156697&sc_cid=GPLA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=151156697 That FedEx truck pic is excellent. IIRC there was a thread about swapping out a wide-angle lens on these cameras? EDITL: The 8 channel only has 4 ports, where do you plug in the 4 more if you choose to buy extras?

BJ's has a 8 channel NVR with 4 cameras for $800 with HD. Thinking about getting this ro replace my very budget 4-channel analog unit. http://www.bjs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10201&storeId=10201&partNumber=P_151156697&sc_cid=GPLA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=151156697 IIRC there was a thread here about changing the lens to a wider angle?

Thinking about this folks... 8 channel NVR with HD and 4 cameras for $800. http://www.bjs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10201&storeId=10201&partNumber=P_151156697&sc_cid=GPLA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=151156697 My concerns are the 45* angle view, IIRC there is a replacement lens some used here to fix that.

Came home and it was open! Cover lifter caught it, no damage. WinBook 4-channel DVR ($60 at Micro Center), 1TB HD, CAT5 with Baluns, Cheap-o 1/3" CCD dome camera. 20FPS

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THIS. If I wasn't considering IP so strongly I would buy it for $100 shipped.

Thanks for the posts. In the limited exposure to CCTV I have had so far (6 cameras at one house, and three here), fixed lens would be fine (I keep any vari-focals I have zoomed out). I am covering doorways/driveways for the most part and want to be zoomed out all the way to cover the widest apron, so that's not a problem. EDIT: I see some posts where a $14 lens is swapped in to make the camera look even better. -John

Thanks for the info. Perhaps when an 8-channel becomes available it won't cost too much more than the 4-channel, prices will only come down. At first I was impressed with my analog picture, but when I see IP 720P, examples they are sooo much better. Do any other kits come close to that Costco IP kit for value? Again, this is not a critical install, just monitoring driveways. Thanks, John

I am going to put one of those CNB units on the water side and the other in the driveway priority location. The Dahua 700TVL Eyeball dome I ordered will go in the other driveway position so I can compare the two. Thanks for the help. -John

Howdy all, this is my first camera install, plan to use a Dahua Professional 8 channel DVR, Cat5 with Balun's, and a Veilux 8 output power supply. This system is to monitor driveway, exterior doorway traffic (no interior cams), and thought it would be neat to have a camera out to the water. My tentative plan was to use CNB VCM-24VF cameras by the driveway, and cheaper Qvis EYE-N-35-FW-N cameras by doors since they all don't have light. Here is a pic of the driveway setup I was thinking. Here is the water cam, I know it's a long-shot (no pun intended) to get a decent pic. The camera can go inside or out (I don't know what you guys think about installing a camera looking through a window, this may be a no-no). Any suggestions you have would be great, I would like to order some things up this week. Thanks, John

What about this with a , 5-100MM lens. Samsung SCC 130 BTW, this camera can be mounted under a deck roof to keep out of direct rain.

About 100' of lawn.