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May I ask how experienced you are to handle such a job? No disrespect meant. But I have to wonder how long a client will wait for a quote while you learn about your options from a forum. You asked this here a month ago. If you're looking for really solid advice, given the questions you're posing here, you should consider passing up the job. Not knowing what to look for in coax is not a good sign you're ready for a 64 camera install. It wouldn't be fair to the client or yourself. So my final advice is, don't take on something you're not ready for. Unless the client is family and is willing to roll with you fumbling through on the cheap to gain experience, save yourself a world of hurt - pass.

Wow, that's a nightmare nobody ever wants to have happen. Hope you get back up to speed soon.

It is best to set up as much as you can locally. But between the dahua nvr's web service interface for remote access, and PSS software which is even more full featured, you have all the control to remotely tweak any setting you may want to, after the fact. The only slight drawback to poe nvr's is that once the cameras are hooked up to it, you can no longer access their own web interface. It's all done through the nvr. Some people prefer to adjust the camera within it's own web interface rather than through the nvr. Also, it's a thought that if a poe channel dies in the nvr you're stuck with it, whereas using a non-poe nvr with a separate poe switch for the cameras power and networking is more flexible and easier to manage. POE nvr's are for simple plug and play and they can be great. I installed a four channel dahua poe nvr last year in a daycare center with a monitor attached to get everything going and set, and then by the clients request, I took the monitor out when I was done and anything further I've tweaked along the way for him has been remotely. But while you're there at your installs, you want to make sure the cameras are up and looking good and aimed perfectly, and you want to make sure you have your networking set right. Then you can leave and tweak remotely all you want. These guys have a bevy of vids to look at. It's not that I'm pushing them to buy from. It's just that they have a ton of demo vids. This one shows the web interface for a dvr, but is identical to a dahua nvr. Also search youtube for PSS demos to get a feel for that remote software, which is much deeper and more full featured. NvVwcNiAHXE

Everything can be adjusted remotely too. Are you using a POE nvr, or are the cameras going to be on a separate POE switch?

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Take a look at all the hik cameras IP addresses- maybe found in the networking page of the nvr. Then maybe with the dahua on it's own in the web service app for it, give it a similar IP address and take it off DCHP afterwards, so the address you give it sticks. If all the hik cameras are for example, 110.20.5.1, 110.20.5.5, etc, give the dahua 110.20.5.15. Make the first three sets of numbers the same as the hiks but change the last number to one that isn't used by the hik cameras. Then plug it into the nvr and see. Might not work, but at least it would put the address of the dahua in the same subnet as the nvr is dishing out to the cameras. If not, put it back on it's own, change the address back to the original and go another way. I have no idea if this would work, so I don't know if this would screw up access to the camera afterwards, if it doesn't. But others have reported being able to put a laptop or netbook into the same subnet as a hik [swann] nvr and hit the cameras web service page, so it may work.

Great shot, but if your wife is anything like mine, she wants you to hide those damn wires by the nightstand! Women and electrical cords do... not... mix.

But will they survive a major earthquake!

We had one night last week that hit 5°f and checking into one channel of the nvr with dahua domes remotely was tough. It could have been a coincidence because we had a very cold winter and all was well with the cameras. But those two nights were brutal. Of course my analog cameras sailed right through.

It was finally warm enough to get outside and clean the camera glass. WOW were they dirty from about four months of nasty winter weather. I have eight cameras and it's a bit of a pain, but so worth it. If you get less than excited about the pictures from your cameras, definitely start with a cleaning. The difference can be surprising.

^ You can try that, but in my experience surveillance audio is just plain lowfi. Even if you can get a quality mic in the chain through the camera, you still deal with sync latency between picture and sound. Nvr's have two way audio via rca but that audio doesn't get recorded. Audio must be passed through an audio capable camera, and that's when latency issues can arise. If you're looking for quality picture and sound together, surveillance gear isn't the way to go. A dedicated video camera is. For remote convenience sake, an nvr with two way audio can be better than an audio camera in that the sync latency is diminished, but it's still lowfi and it doesn't get recorded. So it's a compromise. Use the surveillance gear for what it does best, but use a video camera with an external mic input for top quality audio/picture.

Oh man sorry I missed this! Oh well.

That looks like a nice system. I actually prefer not to have gps for the reason you mention. Mine's a WS300w from Wrightwood. I totally love having it. It's even more necessary to record on the road than your home, imo. Way more risk and possible bad stuff to record. I think it's just a matter of time before they're standard options in new cars, built into rear view mirrors. They're that useful. I also belong to dashcam talk too.

I'm plenty happy with my camera. It's 1080p and does as much as can be expected. It has survived brutally cold temps in the car all winter- starts right up and records, files are always in order. Dependable, set and forget operation- what a good dash cam should be. The only thing I've considered is adding a rear camera. New multi channel systems will be available in the states before long. I'll have to check them out and decide.

Cameras and alarms are very little deterrent. You have only to look at the nightly news to see that. You want real deterrent, get a good territorial type dog. That bark is usually enough to make most opportunistic burglars move on to easier pickins.

Oh I understand. Yeah smart search is great at the Dvr, but that's not often convenient. I don't think pss or Web service has smart search. I'm interested to know too so I'll look. What I did in my case for the guy was scheduled motion with full time as well, so even though motion isn't totally reliable in certain instances, at least motion markers are logged within the 24hr bar as a starting point. I do this especially for the after hours schedule when no one is there that could normally say an event happened around such and such a time. So for sure schedule motion and full time together. It can help zero in big time.

Not sure dahua will ever come around on this one. It's been a long time now. Hikvision seems to absolutely be the other way to go for a number of reasons, but try as I may here, I've never gotten a single person to do a deep demo vid of the CMS software interface. I really like PSS. I wouldn't want to go backwards with a weak CMS package- especially if I had to administer tons of clients in it. Dahua seems way further ahead on all counts, but there are quirks to contend with- mostly in the cameras. You can try making the recording block smaller than 60 minutes- like maybe 30 or 15 minutes. I keep it at 60 because I get fine playback with main stream 2mp. Assuming that's what you mean. Or with such large HD room, record sub stream too. With exterior cameras, it's kinda just better to go with full time recording and plan for it it with HD space. Two weeks or so archiving is usually plenty in most cases.

Yeah now that I remember, the 2mp mini domes had really unrealiable motion detection too. I don't think you'll overcome it with just settings. It wasn't picking up things close enough for it to pick up. The best detection I get out of that nvr is a camera in a reception room- indoors in a confined fov space. That has excellent detection and right on every time, as I scheduled that one to motion after business hours. It's been thoroughly tested with the cleaning guy there every night- god love him! LOL! But the domes looking out at the large parking lot all have unreliable detection. At first what I did to try and save some HD room was schedule full time recording, handing off between two cameras for day/night. That way one channel or another was recording full time, but not all at the same time. That worked out great but then the client wanted full time recording for all three cameras out there, and so I did that. For his needs he didn't want to run the risk of missing a thing.

Yeah see, that's what I meant earlier when I said an unknown will be the software control. You can't call up a preset in the remote software? If you can, you'll have to know the menu preset for that camera to get into it for system tweaks. Maybe your seller can provide you with a list of presets for such things as opening the OSD menu, starting/stopping a tour, scan, or pattern, restarting the camera, creating presets positions, etc. If it's just not possible to do remotely, than you'll have to set it up locally for it to do the specific things you want it to do. And what I meant about properly installing is that you need to install the camera in it's permanent placement first, before you can program in the appropriate positions for the camera to look at as far as presets and a home position. 'Hanging off a shelf' won't be good for programming positions, as they won't be appropriate when you install it in another location for real.

Hold on- If they're not dahua cameras, that may be normal incompatibility.

Last year I had that problem with one dahua dome camera, hooked up to a dahua nvr- no motion detection was working. It was the camera firmware that needed updating, and all was well. So you might want to confirm that end too.

Also you'll need to install the camera to properly set up presets and a home position.

Need more info on the device client fail beyond, can't get it to run . No-ip is the best free dns service. Make an account there and plug in information to whatever software you use. In play store search for Ip camera viewer free and try some apps.

I don't use that, but I recently got an LG 8.3 tablet and use the android HD app, which sizes ok for the tablet. It's probably very much like idmss you're talking about. It has 4, 8, 16 split. In fact if you have an ipad, try the HD app. It's probably way better on an ipad than an android tablet. There's some menu sizing issues on my 8.3 HD tablet, but it's usable. I haven't sprung for the HD plus app, which include push/playback. Frankly, I think I get better streaming reliability on my windows phone with wdmss than I do with the HD tablet app. http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/search?q=wdmss&x=0&y=0 KjOq74_2UTU

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