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Now that one I'm interested in. If you ever get the chance, like I've done here with a step by step, that would be great. Thanks. SB-Jim, glad it worked out for you!

When you plug the cameras into a POE NVR, it creates it's own adresses for the cameras. They all have the addresses in common- just the last numbers in the address change for each camera. Do this- - Plug all cameras into the NVR POE ports and get them live, so they are assigned IP addresses by the NVR - Write all those addresses down, probably found in a remote device menu in the NVR - Preferably use a laptop or netbook and do this; - Go to your local area connection page - Click on properties - Double click on internet protocol [TCP/IP] - Change 'obtain an IP address automatically' to 'use the following IP address' - Put the subnet in for your cameras. Example, if they're all 192.168.1.125 through like 192.168.1.130, plug in something not taken by any of the cameras, such as 192.168.1.5 - Click in the subnet mask and it should automatically dump in 255.0.0.0. I actually put in 255.255.255.0 and it worked as well. But it'll auto dump in 255.0.0.0 and you should be fine with that. - Click OK - If you haven't set your IE activeX for the laptop yet, now's the time to do it per your manufactures instructions - Plug the laptop into an open POE port on the NVR - Open an IE browser and type in any cameras address that you wrote down earlier, making sure that camera is plugged into the NVR as well - You should hit the cameras web page. Do the same for all of them- browse to their addresses. - After all is done, unplug the laptop go back into the local area connection properties/internet protocal [TCP/IP] and check off 'obtain an address automatically' again. Done! Very slick indeed for POE NVR'S.

Cool- thanks.

It is likely you can hit the cameras web interfaces through the nvr, as I have done this with dahua's nvr/cameras. Take note of all the cameras addresses once they are hooked up to the nvr- probably within a remote device menu in the nvr. Unplug one camera and plug a pc, laptop or netbook into one of the poe ports on the nvr. Under LAN network settings in the pc, change it to the same subnet as all the cameras, but be sure you don't use any cameras actual addresses. Open up a browser in IE and type in the address of any of your cameras in the other poe ports and you should hit the web interface for it. The nice part of this is that you can hit the cameras web interface and view it on your pc, and still view the live feed on the nvr's monitor too, so any adjustments you make in the camera will show on the monitor as well. This is a good way to hit the cameras while they are hooked up the the nvr's poe. Once you're done, unplug the pc from the poe port and change it back to 'find an address automatically'.

At the moment I have a dahua 2MP mini domes and I have the bit rate set at 4096. Would bumping them up to 6144 or the highest, 8192 help distance resolution any? Or rather, noticeable enough to warrant the increase?

I'm bumping this because these are all good questions and observations. To expand a little bit and although I have a dahua camera and nvr setup, there is something universal that I'm noticing. Mostly, it's still best to customize settings in the cameras themselves. I had initially thought that an nvr is just like a dvr with analog cameras plugged in. That's not entirely true. With analog, the dvr settings dictate all. With an nvr, mostly it's communicating adjustments to the camera settings. And that integration between the two seems to still need tightening up- even as evidenced with your lorex. In general, it's as though they're taking dvr software and retro fitting it in an nvr. And in these early stages one has to wonder- what is an nvr really good for? As far as I can tell, it's mostly for the hard drive. You put in the most hard drive space the nvr can handle without question- that's the biggest advantage OF the nvr, imo. A centralized location of all your recorded files without worrying about FTP or smart cards- the cards not able to offer anywhere near the storage capability you need for mega pixel cameras. When they get nvr's to perfectly communicate with their own brand of cameras, then the system is truly complete. But if lorex, and from what I'm experiencing, dahua don't tighten up their own gear to communicate perfectly, you'll have to settle for the nvr being a good storage box but you'll still need to hit the cameras directly for complete customizing. And that CAN be done even with the cameras plugged into the nvr. But it shouldn't need to be. You can set a lot up via the nvr, but if you still need to hit the cameras directly for even a single thing, it's still not perfect yet. I also think that more critical reviewing should be done on nvr's, just like it's done with cameras. With swann, lorex, and dahua in the mix now, their own nvr's need to be judged just as critically as their camera counterparts so people know what the deal is for the system they choose. Question- does lorex have it's own version of PSS or any kind of multi client software, or is it only a web application?

In that vid it seems to indicate that to do it, everything must be able to be found within the same network. But the vid is all I'm guessing from. Wouldn't know for sure.

Thanks a bunch for this info and I hope the FTP is worked out. I'm also curious about the profile setup because that is exactly what I was looking for recently from the NVR that has the menu in it but didn't work. I wonder if now that the cameras have the ability, will it work via the NVR period setting menu. For NVR users such as myself, it would be great if it did. I can set it up within the camera, but the menu in the NVR would be even better. My reseller told me of a FW update for the 2MP mini dome as well, which I'd wager is mostly like this one. Thanks a bunch for the menu pictures.

Can you expand on the better picture controls and much improved motion detection areas? What all has improved? Thank you.

Yeah, looks good! I hope you see nothing but boring pictures- no trouble! But all looks good.

How have the ones you rolled back been doing?

I'm using that one indoors in a spot where there is light on all night, so the IR never comes on- just what I wanted. It's a great camera and includes audio, which was a primary reason for choosing this one.

I have a dahua four channel POE NVR. In color settings menu, I simply want to make a two time period schedule for day and night, to slightly change the brightness contrast of some outdoor cameras. For the life of me, I can't figure out how the time period fields work. They seem like they should be un-linked, but every time I tweak a time setting the other side changes too. I'm lost on this. What I simply want is a 6am to 7pm for custom 1, and 7:01pm to 5::59am for custom 2. I think it should read- 0600 to -19:00 -19:02 to 5:59 Custom 1 Custom 2 Every time I change the time on one side, the other side changes. I hope someone can very simply and directly tell me how this works. Even a short video would be so helpful. Thank you.

Yes, that's a perfect thing to do if you have good lighting- no IR. If you get another camera, I highly suggest you take the same approach. Too much money for these things just for spider cameos.

It has no IR cut. It's not sensitive to IR at all. It has auto day/night and will go to b&w at night, but you need adequate white light to get a decent image in darkness. It looks like a rebranded dahua. You should check qsee and confirm you have the very latest firmware. Maybe that will help it.

My observation, albeit with a dahua 2mp mini dome, is that it's actually better to adjust brightness/contrast a slight bit for this. Assuming both settings default at 50, I up the brightness to 53 and bring down the contrast to 48. This small tweak makes the night image brighter and during the day, it has little consequence to the brights and contrast, but makes shadow areas brighter. Of course, I'd prefer to make an even more custom setting for night and day, which I will be doing via scheduling time periods in the camera for that. The only drawback to scheduling time periods is that sunrise and sunset times change slightly throughout the year, and then of course throw in DST. But as you've shown on these Hiks, WDR can be hit or miss and one size doesn't fit all times of day either. Toss up, but I think I'll probably prefer a balance of brightness/contrast for day & night as opposed to an auto setting to try and wrangle it all in for the best.

Along the way I have come across this vid. Jump to about the 6:55 mark and it covers what you want to do. I'm not sure if it will bring in any dvr brand, or if it has to be a dahua dvr. Good luck. LWWXbeb0VF8

I think it might have been this thread- viewtopic.php?f=19&t=35561&hilit=color+problem

It may be that the qsee dome is just an inferior camera, especially considering you've tried tweaking all the settings, and assuming you know what you're doing enough to know that this is truly a limitation of the camera. In which case, maybe consider a different dome. I've been pretty happy with the dahua 2MP mini dome. It's bare bones, but it's been handling things quite nicely. Btw- that's NOT Adam Sandler.

The labor of installing is tough, without question. I'm a DIY'er as well and I have been in some tough spots- literally. Not the fun part by any means. I've also installed a commercial building for a family member and I learned a lot there too, using 2mp domes. Understanding what you need to see will dictate how big a system you need, and how labor intensive it's gonna be installing it. Professionals will understand what the client needs to see and which cameras best deliver the proper FOV's, as well as handle the lighting conditions. If the installer is good, the end result won't fall short. They'll understand exactly what the client needs to best see what they want to see. And by educating the client- usually explaining why a single camera won't deliver the proper results for a given FOV- the job will done right the first time, over and out. It would be better if you posted individual pictures of your eight cameras, rather than a screen shot. It looks like you did the best you could with only eight cameras, but it's hard to tell. In the end it usually comes down to a bigger capacity system with more cameras, and a mix of camera types and lenses. A one size fits all package system with all 3.6 or 4mm lenses and IR, will only get you so far. If I can see a trend with people getting into MP cameras and IP systems, it's that they only think about resolution. It's part of the equation, but it's not the only part.

That's correct- they will still need separate power supplies. POE will only power the camera, not the extras.

Does the qsee have an IR cut filter? The only thing I've ever known to cause color problems during the day is the lack of TDN.

I'm using three HDB 3200C's and one HDBW 3202. This is a POE NVR, so the cameras are getting their power from the NVR and as such, I'm using the NVR GUI to tweak the settings, not the cameras web interfaces. But regardless, the two features I mention are not working properly as far as I can tell. Have anyone at dahua try the features I'm talking about and they will see- the time periods for custom color setups is not working properly and only mains stream settings are followed- it won't follow a different quality setting for motion or alarm. I believe sub stream is okay though. But it's very easy to see where the NVR is going wrong when you try it.

I'm quite sure this is a bug in the firmware. There are two major features in the latest firmware that need to be fixed. This one, and also a bug in recording streams. Currently, although you can specify different fps, and quality settings for main stream, motion, and alarm, the ONLY stream the nvr will recognize is main stream. That means when setting up a recording schedule, you cannot take advantage of lower quality settings for main stream, and higher quality settings for the motion stream when motion is detected. This seriously cuts into hard drive space. Considering your signature dexterash, I'm hopeful that maybe you can get the issues addressed and we can get a much needed fix for these two features in a firmware update. This is the 4 channel POE NVR build version 2.610.GV00.0 Build: 2012-12-8. Thank you.

I wish you well too, but IR in domes- keep the receipt handy. The night picture is not likely to be good.