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Test of an Effio-E Camera vs Sony HAD vs Sony Super HAD
shockwave199 replied to nDAlk90's topic in Security Cameras
Check out gadspot.com as well for comparison shopping. They stocked all their 700tvls and you could very well save some coinage. Those pics look great Adam. Dan -
Need help with new installation
shockwave199 replied to BBQGUY's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
A separate one for each camera, or a four way splitter kind of thing? Make sure all the power adapters are working properly if you're using separate ones for each camera- and make sure they are the correct ones for the camera. And if it's a splitter- do not hook up only one camera to them. Hook up all cameras first, then power it up. Those splitters are made specifically for multiple cameras. When I first used one, in my directions it warned of this very thing. It could damage the camera perminently. If none of that is the problem- your camera are probably shot. Process of elimination. Run through it. Dan -
Ever try one of those bug/rodent deterents that you plug into your wall inside, which work under the same principle? I'll save you the trouble- they don't work. Neither will it work on a camera. Save your money- it's just a gimmick. Problem with spiders isn't that they park themselves right in front of the lense, it's that they shoot the freakin webs across the field of view 6 inches in front of the camera. I rarely see the spider, but I see the floating webs every night. Here's the best investment I bought besides the cameras themselves. An 8' telescoping extension pole- And a microfiber dust head attachment- The pole is 8'. The dust head straightened out is a foot. I'm 6' and with my arm extended, that's 8' of just me. All together that's 17' of extending power. From the ground, I can dust all of my cameras including my highest ones. And the funny thing is that spiders seem to be smart. If you keep wiping away the webs, they get annoyed and move on, as though they get it- this spot costs me too much work making webs. And they just move on. And then it gets cold enough and the SOB's up and die. THAT will be a welcome change! Dan
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It's an interesting thing, and something people new to this who are thinking about a cctv setup should consider. I'm new to the whole thing- if you consider the total time invested. It's about four months. I took almost a month to shop, read, study, and formulate a plan- and with that I made mistakes. The past three months have been installing, tweaking, replacing poor cameras, tweaking, and just plain survielling my exterior eight channel system each night- the bulk of my need. It's a chunk of money, first off. Hobby or not- be prepaired to spend at least 1,200 bucks for an eight channel system- and that's budget gear. And a TON of sweat-equity. Wires don't run themselves and cameras don't hang themselves. WORK, man. I started out feeling I had a serious need to even get invloved in all this. Working overnight and leaving my home and family on their own, coupled with my ability to actually watch my camera system all night, was enough for me to conclude it's time- buy, install, watch. Long about the first time you get a camera setup and watch it, you become hooked. It takes on the form of a hobby. You see other peoples gear- you get motivated to upgrade. You get four cameras installed and you love the array of footage you now have- you want another four. It's fun! It's at times funny to watch too. It's genuinely fun to be into this. And rewarding too. Ater all, when you setup a whole system yourself and sit back and watch your work, it's rewarding think- 'I' did that. All good- fun. And then one night there's an incident- like what happened to me just this morning at 4am, after three months of watching nothing more than insects and cats. There I sat, checking into my cameras remotely from work, when all of a sudden someone just marches right across my front yard- right across camera eight on my system. And my heart drops to my balls. It turns out that it amounted to nothing- just someone apparently taking a shortcut across my lawn. But at 4am, there's very little good that goes on, so who knows. Playback showed nothing more. My eyes and my cameras are now WIDE open. It's actually the second time I've caught something amiss, only the first time my original camera provided such poor night image I couldn't be sure. In an instant- hobby became critical. Images became super important. The plan of action beyond just spotting something becomes paramount. So from one newbie to droves of others flocking here- have fun with it. It is fun and rewarding. Nothing wrong with it being a fun hobby. But make no mistake- surviellance will eventually be critical. Put a camera up and you're libel to see something not good along the way. For that, be prepaired. Know how you'll handle that. Have a plan of action. And here's a big one- when you're putting a system together- make sure your cameras are actually useful past a cool little picture on the screen. Because as sure as anything, you're gonna be glad you have quality good enough to where you can actually desipher the trouble before you, instead of leaving you in a panic and guessing what the hell is going on. May all our views be boring as all hell. Dan
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too many DVRs.....head will explode!
shockwave199 replied to SoM3_Idi0t's topic in Digital Video Recorders
When it comes to sysytem resources, I prefer standalone. If you're using a computer based system, make it a computer that does nothing else- not your every day surfing computer. Also, whichever dvr you choose, make plenty sure it's compatable with your chosen platform- be it pc or mac. And make sure it supports the browser you use in your world- it will matter when viewing remotely. For instance- IE9 is touchy for remote viewing with some dvrs unless they've had a firmware update to support it. IE8 seems to be universally supported. And if you're a mac user, be certain it supports that. Dan -
Need help with new installation
shockwave199 replied to BBQGUY's topic in Installation Help and Accessories
Have you tried turning everything off and back on again? Turn off everything, unplug cameras and replug in everything. See if that helps. Sometimes a power cycle clears odd things. How are you powering the cameras? Aside from this issue, avoid running wires and doing perminent installs of cameras until you confrim each one works- and they all work when hooked up together. Hook up all your cameras at the table on the cables you'll be using, when the cables are still wrapped up. Power it all up and confirm everything works. This avoids a LOT of extra work. Confirm the whole system works- THEN start installing. Good luck. Dan -
I get very good results from 60 dollar cameras, so for 130 bucks I would expect something very good. Have you tried good IR light with it? Maybe that would work better with that camera instead of depending on ambient exterior lighting, or almost no light at all. Perhaps the camera would behave properly with IR. Dan
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Maybe you just got a bad one. Ever consider exchanging it to see if another one will work properly?
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Be real- Hobby? Necessity? Or both?
shockwave199 replied to shockwave199's topic in General Digital Discussion
But then you're monitoring boring emails instead of all your nice camera pictures. Emails are after the fact. My dvr does support that but it's the last thing I wanted and don't plan on setting it up. More emails of false triggers I don't need. All my cams out outdoors, btw. I would only set emails if I was away on vaca or something for days. Vacation? What's that! Haven't had one in a decade! Hmm, maybe that's part of the problem! Dan -
Be real- Hobby? Necessity? Or both?
shockwave199 replied to shockwave199's topic in General Digital Discussion
1- readying a gun could lean towards paranoid! LOL! 2-I LOVE that UPS gets the package here, even late! 3- You get a bit rocked when you DO run into potential or obvious crime caught on your residential cameras. It makes you wary. Paranoid? Ok- that too. Glad things have been just peachy for you. Dan -
too many DVRs.....head will explode!
shockwave199 replied to SoM3_Idi0t's topic in Digital Video Recorders
As I mentioned- large hard drive is good. Keep in mind most dvr's allow for bigger hard drive upgrades too- even if they come with only 500gb stock. But the bigger the better, or at least one that will allow for a 2tb upgrade, even though it only comes with a 500gb stock. Dan -
too many DVRs.....head will explode!
shockwave199 replied to SoM3_Idi0t's topic in Digital Video Recorders
Not worth getting hung up on 30fps. If you're getting a decent dvr, 30fps will be an option anway. It's up to you whether you'll use it or not, or opt for less fps. As for hard drive- take stock of what your recording needs are. I have a 500gb in my dvr. But my needs for recording are this- - Motion recording only between 12am and 5am [prime time crime hours] - HD1 @ 20fps, bit rate highest over 8 cameras - 30 seconds recording after the motion [keeps recording down to a minimum] - I'm available to turn off recording to any camera or all, if needed [spiders/rain] - Motion detection area very well tailored for each camera All that equates to a seriously LONG amount of available recording time to my 500gb. I've been recording for just over three weeks and haven't really made a dent. I average around 80 or so motion recordings per night, each averaging around 4mb per file size for that five hour block I have set. If the motion lasts longer, the file size gets bigger accordingly. So for my needs, a 500gb hd is plenty sufficient. At this rate, I figure I'll be good for months and months before filling up- maybe even over a half year. If you record 24/7 or even motion day and night, you'll need to consider that and get a big hard drive. Generally, get a big one anyway. It certainly can't hurt. But depending, a 500gb can be just fine. My setup is in my sig link, as well as some other vids on my setup in there. Have a look. Good luck. My headache and anxiety over choosing, buying, and installing my system is only now subsiding! Dan -
Be real- Hobby? Necessity? Or both?
shockwave199 replied to shockwave199's topic in General Digital Discussion
I guess people are as dumb as all hell and someone could have thought it was a good place to ditch it- but I'd be inclined to bring that into local PD in case they have anything on the books that could be related to. -
Be real- Hobby? Necessity? Or both?
shockwave199 replied to shockwave199's topic in General Digital Discussion
That's really weird- UPS did the same thing to me last week- like 9pm at night we get a delivery. Great service but man- that's late and unexpected. The purse- that's freaky. Could have been drugs or worse- ditching someones ID. No ID in that thing? Just skank? -
Camera Comparison Tests: Ultrak, Pelco, Samsung, CNB, Effio
shockwave199 replied to SEANHAWG's topic in Security Cameras
Bump- please continue. Love these tests. -
Slashing of tires... what the hell
shockwave199 replied to SecurityGeeks's topic in Security Cameras
I could not see the crime take place at all in those vids. Are you on someones ****e-list? Shame this happened. People suck. -
And if the connections are outside the wall, even in a box, I would still use weather rated electrical tape on the connections. Worth it. And at some point, like now, you put the camera out and let it do the job it's meant to do. The night picture will be much better for sure. But I'm curious- what camera do you have that's rated weather proof? Most I see are weather resistant. Dan
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IR floodlights VS. regular flood lights? which is better ?
shockwave199 replied to Toaster's topic in Security Cameras
I don't think it costs any more than a typcial fixture. The ones I linked to are 23 bucks. Any lower than that and you might as well stand there with the bulb in your mouth and do an uncle fester. In the world of motion fixtures, that's um....cheap as ****e. But as I've just learned having looked at this stuff again- dual brite is old news as far as fetching a price. Now the feature that will put you up around 30-40 bucks is creeper zone technology. Not only do you get dual brite, but you'll get sensing directly under the fixture- the creeper zone. So you can have the photocell covering wide out front, but still have coverage right under the fixture as well. That's a pretty cool thing that I would appreciate actually, especially with my two fixtures way up on my peaks. I want to cover the yard, but I also want to cover right along the house too. I've tried, and I can definitely creep tight to the house and not set off my existing fixtures. So the creeper zone- yeah, that should do it! LOL! Dan -
I have a QS408 from q-see. The software actually isn't all that bad, but it's not without faults either. Dan
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Heck, I'd be trying it if I owned one! Speaking of audio, I hooked up a mic to my dvr last week to monitor the inside of my house overnight, remotely. Of course I got the ok from my wife to do so and I assured her I wasn't snooping- but one night I did hear a strange dudes voice and some moaning....nevermind Anyway, my honey has a really bad back, among other ailments. She's been in a panic situation before and I've had to rush home. This tiny mic, man this thing is freakin amazing! I hear practically the whole damn house from an isolated room upstairs. Not specific conversations downstairs though. The closer you get to that room, the more it picks up. But I can clearly hear the phone when I call, and stuff- even the outdoors like I'm THERE with the window open. I'm now kind of like life-alert remotely. I have the audio open all night and if the wife has a serious panic for anything, all she has to do is holler and I hear it and I can make a call- in case she can't get to a phone or she's out of it on meds. And I'll hear my alarm system go off too- very nice. From a security standpoint and in certain situations where medically it can come in handy, a mic inside the house to monitor remotely is killer great. I really feel connected now with audio too. My dvr has EIGHT mic hookups. Nah! Dan
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IR floodlights VS. regular flood lights? which is better ?
shockwave199 replied to Toaster's topic in Security Cameras
Finally found them. Search for 'dual bright' security lights and you'll get them. http://www.amazon.com/Heath-Zenith-SL-5312-WH-Motion-Security/dp/B001DU21L2 Btw- the two people that reviewed this light there a couple years ago are goofs. This light will work with FLOODS that are energy efficient. Typical bulbs are 90 watts brightness, using 70 watts actual to accomplish that. And they respond to dim/full bright, which is needed for this fixture. It's been years since I bought one but I'll be getting two of these shortly. They are much better than lights off/on only. Essential Info Add security to an area with the Heath/Zenith SL-5718-WH DualBrite Motion Sensor Security Light. When motion is sensed, the Light Control will turn on the fixture for the amount of time you set (1, 5, or 10 minutes) then automatically turn the light off. The built in photocell keeps the light off during the day when it is not needed then allows the motion sensor to take over at night. Manual mode allows the Light Control to be turned on and off with a light switch if desired. The patented DualBrite Timer will cause the light to come on at half brightness for a selected amount of time (Off, 3 hours, 5 hours, or until dawn) after dusk. Selecting Off disables this feature. If motion is sensed while in DualBrite mode, the light will turn on to full bright for the set on-time, then return to dim mode. Dan -
IR floodlights VS. regular flood lights? which is better ?
shockwave199 replied to Toaster's topic in Security Cameras
Oh is that it? I frequently get an error this time of morning- too many connections or something. Now I get it. -
IR floodlights VS. regular flood lights? which is better ?
shockwave199 replied to Toaster's topic in Security Cameras
Double post- this place can be annoying sometimes with errors. -
IR floodlights VS. regular flood lights? which is better ?
shockwave199 replied to Toaster's topic in Security Cameras
In my opinion, there's two sides to the question. Light for the sake of camera picture, and light for the sake of security. A lighted property is absolutely a better option for crime deterent. A dark property is the first plus on the check list for residential crime. Even if you have motion security lights that blast on, the property is still dark and remains a draw for possibe crime. My feeling is that it's best to help deter crime from a distance and that equals a lighted property. Better that than drawing the criminal in with darkness, being able to get a good shot of them with great IR's as they bash their way in. Either way it could happen, but I think it's best to use exterior lighting that can be seen, rather than amazing IR lighting that can't. I've mentioned a few times here lately that many motion security fixtures have a dim-on setting to save a ton of money and still provide light until they are tripped to full power. And bonus- cameras appreciate the added exterior light too. That's not to say some support from IR's in certain spots around the property is a bad idea- it's great. But I'm a big believer in seeable light for real crime deterent. Cameras are second in line, when even lights outside don't do the trick. Dan -
Who am I kidding- I need a power supply box
shockwave199 posted a topic in General Digital Discussion
After the pains of installing, I had everything plugged in with individual power adapters. Heck, the cameras come with the things so why not use them. Plus I was too exhausted and low on bucks to get a power box. It took a little tweaking- some cameras would get into a slow blinking routine. But shuffling the adapters around a bit, everything calmed down and has been steady as a rock, even through power outages from storms and a hurricane. Then last night I look at one of my cams and the picture is stark white. I unplugged the adapter and plugged it back in, cleared for 10 seconds but faded back to white. Fiddled to no avail, so I just unpugged the adapter for almost an hour. Plugged it back in and it held for about an hour, then faded to white. Then I unplugged it almost till dawn. Plugged it back in and it held. As I suspected, it's fine in daylight minus the IR's on. And tonight, it's fine- no problem at all. Weird. Does this happen with power boxes too? Or does a power box solve the issue of occasional odd stuff when using separate adapters for all eight cameras? Dan