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Well, after a lot of downloading this, lots of headbanging and throwing that , I was able to set up Milestone's XProtect Go 2.0a The way I have it, it appears that the Axis 225FD camera will work on the XProtect software, but XProtect will not install the Vivotek cameras (IP8362 and FD8361). And it appears that the Vivotek ST7501 software will work on the Vivotek cameras, but not on the Axis 225FD camera. Seems like I am stuck between both programs. I have a feeling that Milestone XProtect Go 2.0a will not support the Vivotek cameras, even though the software does recognize the cameras. It simply will not install them. Unless someone has a better idea, I will contact Milestone Tech Support on Monday and see if they can help.

Matt and all, Ok, I get it. I was able to set up a second monitor view using the ST7501 software and a multi monitor setup on my video card. Thanks! Now for the next question, I think it is a dumb question, but I have to ask. I have the 2 Vivotek cameras set up and working. I have only gotten to read thru a small portion of the install and setup manual (who reads these things anyways??) of their ST7501 Live Client software. I happen to have the opportunity to test out an AXIS 225fd, of which I was able to download the Axis camera management software and am able to test it using the Axis program. The question is: can I integrate the Vivotek cameras AND the Axis camera using one software program, whether it be the Vivotek Live Client ST 7501 or another like Milestone (which I have yet to download)????? I would like to run all cameras from one software. Thanks again. Fred

Hi all, I hope everyone had a great Turkey Day! I have 2 of the 3 Vivotek IP cameras working. I was having connection issues with the FD8361, but that seems to have improved after I did a firmware update. The other two cameras (of which I have only installed one) are the IP8362. I also installed the Vivotek ST7501 software to use for monitoring and recording. I need to know the following: I know if I were to use an NVR instead of my desktop computer for recording, that an NVR has a separate "Video Out" for a "Spot Monitor" that I can isolate a specific camera on a different display monitor. Does anyone know if Vivotek's ST 7501 or any other recording software (milestone, etc) have this feature? I can either use a dual monitor connection to my computer's vga/dvi connection or if the software supports it, use a USB connection as a second video output for that Spot Monitor. Will this work? Also, I see most NVR (hybrid DVRs) are Linux based. Is it possible and advisable to format the hard drive, remove windows and install Linux as the operating system on my PC that I am using for surveillance?? I know nothing about Linux. I am considering adding a video card such and having a few analog CCTV cams as well as the IP cams. Thanks again, Fred

Thanks for the answers. I now have 3 Vivotek IP cams ordered and will order the CNB cams shortly, once I find a good price. This is a great forum.

Being new at this and in my pursuit of putting a system together, is it ok to use different brands/manufacturers of cameras in one system? I would think for ease of compatibility with the camera software and with a hybrid dvr, it would be simpler to have all Vivotek (IP) OR all CNB (monaLisa analog) cameras, but if I combine the two types, will I have problems?

thats alot of money just to be able to run 1 brand of IP. and with no option to buy a licence to use others. plus you cant run your analog cameras. for a little less money go for a hybrid. http://surveillance.aver.com/product/embedded-hybrid-DVR-IWH3216-Touch http://surveillance.aver.com/product/embedded-hybrid-DVR-EH6216H-Series I had already gone to the AVER website and did not see those models listed, I am sure they change model numbers quite often. http://www.averusa.com/surveillance/userfiles/image/files/HardwareComparisonChart.pdf I will research those models you suggested and compare the features. Thanks, I am just looking for the best bang for the buck, without going overboard.

I have a Dell Workstation 490 running Win XP Pro, Intel Xeon CPU 5150 @ 2.66Ghz with 3.25 GB Ram I was hoping that would be enough to start out running with a couple IP cams and later add a good NVR to use hybrid with IP and Analog cameras. I need to see how well of an area I can cover (and afford) using the IP cameras first and then add a few more analog cameras (like CNB VBM24VF or similar) to fill in the hidden areas and save a few dollars. This unit is a bit higher than what I wanted to spend, but I think it has all the good stuff you mentioned: NVR-IP1632 Price: $2,099.99 PC-Based NVR Specifications *This NVR works with VIVOTEK Cameras ONLY. Other brands not supported. Storage: 500 GB HDD OS Drive & 2 TB HDD Recommended Number of IP Cameras: 16-32 VivoTek Cameras Internet: Multiple simultaneous logins supported. Secondary Storage: DVD Burner Video Card: DDR3 Dual Port Video Card Recording Mode: Schedule / Sensor Triggered Case Type: Tower Case Operating System: Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit Processor: Intel Core i7 CPU RAM: 6 GB DDR3 1600MHz Motherboard: Asus Software Version: VIVOTEK Central Management ST7501 Or I also found this one: AXIUM 16 CHANNEL AX-NVRe-16 NVR w/ 480fps RECORDING AT 1080i w/ 1TB HD Our Price : $1,495.50 Surveillance Video Part Number # ax-nvre-16-1t On the I7 computer, would I have to add a DVR card to hook up the analog cameras? If so, which DVR card?

Thanks for all the help. I am going to order the cameras and the switch today. I have to ask, if anyone has a recommendation on a good NVR other than the Vivotek NR 8301, (which would seem the way to go, since it is compatible with the Vivotek cameras). I think I should be able to get a decent quality and features NVR somewhere in the $1000 to $1500 range. Also, any recommendations for a fisheye or wide angle Camera, IP and/or regular? I saw the Geovision GV-IPCAM and the Vivotek FD 7141V but they are pricey, good stuff tho....

Sounds like I am "good to go" Thanks! Vivotek says the cameras need 15 watts each from the PoE switch? I am assuming that is 12 volts DC Actually POE is about 45 -55v at the source. If those cameras really do pull 15W, you will need to be a little selective on which POE switch you use. Some of them may have something like 4 POE ports, with a max of 40W across all 4 ports. You won't have a problem with the power in individual ports (15W is the spec standard I think), but you might have a problem with the total power across all ports. Just something to watch for. I looked through a few and it looks like the best bang for the buck is Netgear ProSafe 16-Port 10/100 Switch with 8-Port PoE But I am also considering the Cisco SF302-08P For some dumb a55d reason I thought those cameras were wireless, except for the power. I don't know why I had that stuck in my mind. I do have to run Cat5/6 to these cameras. The coax adapters are more expensive. I had remembered some that had the wireless antenna to them (Honeywell), that is why I was confused. I should have looked at the manuals on line first (I did now)!

Sounds like I am "good to go" Thanks! Vivotek says the cameras need 15 watts each from the PoE switch? I am assuming that is 12 volts DC

Lots of Ethernet over coax adapters available just Google it Lots of Ethernet over coax adapters available just Google it I do not mind running a couple Cat 5/6 cables for now, the weather has cooled off a bit, but thanks for the info. I will Google it.

Hi all, I am in sunny south Florida and recently I redid my home alarm system with an IP panel with AlarmNet and everything works great. I used to install burglar alarms professionally about 25 years ago, so wiring is not difficult for me. While I was doing the alarm system I decided to run Siamese wiring (coax and power) for 10 outdoor and 3 indoor cameras for the future. Well, the future came sooner than I thought. I would like to start building a system and slowly adding cameras and components. Now I decided that due to improved MP picture quality, I should have a video hybrid system, or if I work it $$$slowly, a full IP Video Surveillance system. I want to begin with one or two mid/high end IP cameras, I am fairly convinced on the Vivotek FD8361 and/or the Vivotek IP 8362 (other camera recommendations are gladly accepted). That way I can cover the front entry and the main rear part of the house. I have motion activated flood lights all around the house but there are some dark areas on the sides that the floods do not reach. Questions are: Other than the IP cameras, (I also have a spare computer and two monitors that I am not currently using), what else would I need to record directly from the video cameras to the computer's 1TB hard drive via IP? I am assuming the software will enable me to view the video feed through a browser on my computer? Or is there something else that I need? I already have the Siamese Coax/power wires run to each camera box location, I think would either need a power supply or a Network Switch to run PoE power to the cameras. I have ATT Uverse internet with a Uverse wireless router which I believe would recognize the cameras wireless signal directly. Then I should be able to connect through the camera's IP address? Or would I be better off running Cat5 from the cameras to a switch and then connecting the switch to the router? I know a Hybrid NVR would help the system come together, but I am trying to avoid spending on that item right now. Also, I would appreciate recommendations for a NVR, since I am looking at Vivotek cameras, I assume the Vivotek NVR 8301 (8 channel) would be a compatible starting point. For the NVR an Individual Video Loop Out would be needed since I want to isolate the front door outside camera with a separate monitor by the inside of the front door entrance. I hope I correctly explained what I am trying to accomplish here, I do not want to spend on low end cameras now and more sooner than later have to upgrade again. All suggestions and ideas are greatly appreciated. " title="Applause" /> " title="Applause" /> Thanks, Fred