jcanker

I'm still involved in the horrid installation job discussed in my other thread; now I have a different camera in another location in the building. It is an MX-5303v. I can find several websites that *sell* this camera, but cannot find any info on who actually manufacters this camera. This camera was just returned from the supplier after warranty work was completed. Long story short: The original install used separate wires (black and white) to run power from the distribution panel to each camera's location. This camera came with a 12v DC plug and BNC connection, with a small PTZ control switch between the camera and these plugs acting essentially as a Y connector--power + BNC -> PTZ toggle ->wires combine into camera. (Can someone explain what good a PTZ toggle is when it's 2-1/2 feet from the camera?). To complete the install I had to snip the power plug. Power plug had a red, black, and green wire. Connected black to black and red to white; connected BNC's; no dice. Tried swapping black to red, white to black; no dice. Called the supplier for support. Because I snipped the power their answer is that cutting it voids the warranty and won't support it. I'm all in at this point: clipped off the PTZ toggle which exposed *6* wires: Black, red, green, yellow, white, Brown. Black, red, green obviously went out to the 12vDC power plug, and it appears that yellow and brown went to the moulded BNC plug. What of the white? I've tried to track down the manufacturer of the device, but all I can find is this "data sheet" that is written with poor English and doesn't have any manufacturer name, even though it says to contact them or the local supplier with any questions: ftp://74.14.230.97/Camera%20Software/MX-5303V.pdf Any insights into this? I'm tired of banging my head, and the manager who hired me to finish this is beyond frustrated with the original installer who gave him the impression that he was buying a turn-key system with modular plugs and a universal set of cameras.

That's not really an option here. Again: I was asked to come in and put up these cameras that fell down after being installed by someone else. Adding to the system is not an option, especially since this facility is moving by the end of March and they don't want to spend any more money than necessary. These cameras are only going back up because corporate dials into them and is demanding that they go back up.

Without that will it just take defaults or just not work? The company that repaired the camera was very helpful and working with me on getting the leads matched up right until they decided to call the manufacturer for more info and then all of a sudden it was "We don't support that configuration" for everything I asked. I've dissected the rubber covering the OSD, so if I had to solder it back together and attach some longer leads to it I could I this point. Wouldn't that get me up and running at least long enough to run through any set up I had to do? Even if I do get this camera up and running, that OSD is about 3' from the camera, 20' in the air, at least 80' from the DVR and distro panel. That means to set anything up I'll have to radio back to my assistant while one of us is up in the basket at the camera and the other is at the panel.

Disassembled the OSD switch: Black and Brown go to "GND", so I'm assuming that since the black wire leaves that solder point with the Red and Green power wires, that's ground for power, and Brown is ground for the video signal Yellow, Red, and Green bypass all solder points on the switch; I'm assuming the yellow then is my video signal and the Red & Green are (+) and (-) DC power respectively. The white is soldered to the OSD at a point labeled "DOW." No clue what that's for yet, but I'm assuming it's for the OSD toggle to operate. So, my best guess is: Red to my 12vDC (+), Green to my 12vDC (-) Yellow to my RG59 copper core for video, Brown to my RG59 ground shield mesh. Any thoughts as to what/where/whether to ground the Black and whether I've got the right guess on Red/Green as +/-?

See, this all started because the camera had a plug for the power and the wires that had been run for the original install did not. Ergo, to make the connection, snipped the plug. At this point the switch is off the cable. What do you mean, "Never use pre-made cables?" Do you mean don't use the cables that were already there?

No, they did not have a turn key system, and to be honest, you clearly didn't read my post closely. I explained why I clipped the wire in the first place. The original installer clearly didn't use any plugs to connect the power to the camera. Additionally there was NO documentation for his work and he didn't bother installing the camera well enough so that it didn't fall off the warehouse wall in the first place. That is hardly a turn key solution, and to top it off, he installed the distribution panel under the desk that serves as the main work space so they had to train themselves not to kick it accidentally while sitting at the desk. Is the work that I'm supposed to call a "local cctv installer" to do? It was after all, a local cctv installer that did this job in the first place. Now I appreciate a good scolding when I deserve it, but i never asked if i did or did not void the warranty. I didn't ask anyone to pile on the company that serviced the camera in the first place. What I did was ask if anyone had any familiarity with the generic camera that I'm dealing with because the original "local cctv installer's" choice to install a non-branded camera is causing me additional difficulty due to sparse documentation that doesn't include manufacturer info and isn't even written in halfway-decent English lin the single instance where it does exist. I was asked to clean up this mess and when I purchase cameras to install in this person's new location next year I *will* use cables that have the 12vDC plugs and BNC connectors. In the meantime, I'm dealing with a line to a camera that doesn't have that and didn't when I got involved. So I ask again: does anyone know anything about this non-branded camera?

I was asked to reconnect some cameras at a business for a friend of a friend. These cameras fell during the East Coast earthquake and were sent out for repair and then remounted. They are mounted near the peak of a 2-story warehouse, so it's difficult for me to get at the camera to check make/model. Coming from the distribution panel, there is a RG59 with the BNC snipped off for the signal and a Black and White connection (I'm guessing that's the 12VDC). On one camera there are multiple wires coming from the camera: A black cable that contains a braided shielding which covers a yellow wire and a black wire. There is also a Red wire and an Orange wire There is also a green wire and a brown wire that were taped off at the repair facility. Any best guesses as to which wires to connect to my Black/White and my RG59 center and shielding?

Okay, a bit more info now. don't have the exact model, but it's a DNB weather-proof. One of the manuals for a camera in that line says the wires are: Red --DC 12V Orange -- GND Black -- GND(Video) Yellow -- Video Out Green -- RS-485(+) Brown -- RS-485(-) So I'm thinking: Camera Yellow to the copper core of the RG59 Camera Black to the shielding of the RG59 Camera Red to Line Black Camera Orange to Line White how does that sound?