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Thanks for the info. I suspected that the licenses on the Avigilon NVRs may not be able to be moved. Which leaves me with the upgrade and expand option. I already have a few cameras spare, and wouldn't be buying new avigilon cameras for any extra channels that I need cameras for. I'd have them off eBay for a third the price, or new hikvision.

Thanks for the replies so far guys. My current setup is standard, 12 channels. Ive had pricing back for options to upgrade the number of channels on my existing setup, which is not out of the question, but still a bit steep (£470 ($600) for four channels including tax). Another option has presented itself in the possibility of purchasing a used 8 channel Avigilon NVR (Core) with software. This raises a few of questions which others may know the answer to here: Are licenses transferable to other people - i.e. can I even use this NVR standalone at my home without breaching some terms with AVigilon? Is it possible to move the license for these 8 channels to my current 12 channel setup leaving me with a total of 20 channels on one system? I assume this would involve some form of upgrade from core to standard on the 8 channel NVR, or indeed is it possible to "downgrade" my system to core in oredr to accept these 8 channel licenses. I dont really need standard now on version 5/6, but as it was the only one which allowed the level of remote access I needed way back on version 4, thats why I have standard, I'd be happy with the features of Core now if I could have the 20 channels in one location. Worst case scenario, the 8 channel box would have to sit as a separate entity on the network and Id have to connect my remote stations/phones to two different gateways - which is a bit messy. Any advice welcomed as always :)

My current CCTV system consists of Avigilon Software running on a server and 12TB NAS storage, coupled to a mix of Hikvision and Avigilon cameras.I have a 12 camera license for the Avigilon, currently version 5.Im now at the stage where Im looking to add more cameras to cover different parts of the building and an outbuilding. I think I may need to go beyond 16/17 cameras, so would need another 4+1 camera licenses for the avigilon server (if they still sell them in groups of 4 or 1 only).Whilst I really like the Avigilon software and have stuck with it for a few years, Im getting a bit sick of the whole smoke and mirrors pricing with Avigion software and licenses whenever Ive had the need to upgrade or expand. I see there is a free upgrade to acc6 if previous licenses were bought after 1st July 2016. I bought my previous upgrade about 2 weeks earlier, ffs. So that's another probably £150+ to upgrade for the sake of two weeks. I'm getting a bit sick of the way I have to pay a chunk of money to upgrade the existing estate every time i want to add a couple more cameras. So I am now considering moving the whole lot to a Hikvision NVR and leaving avigilon. I actually prefer the Hikvision cameras I have to the Avigilon ones, especially when comparing the Hikvision Turrets to the Avigilon Domes. Low lying sun can sometimes catch the domes and all but wipes the picture out (probably not the most appropriate camera type for the location, my fault).All of my cameras are currently powered by POE, the vast majority of the wired network in the home is gigabit, and there is always a gigabit link back to the server room where the NVR would be housed. Not all cameras are connected directly back to the server room, they may connect into a POE switch at one point in the house and then there is a single gigabit backhaul from that switch to a switch in the server room.So, Im either now going to get another few camera licenses for Avigilon, at which point Im no doubt going to be told I need to upgrade to version 6 in order to add more channels, and whatever that costs. Or I go for the 16 channel Hikvision NVR and reuse the Avigilon Cameras that I can via ONVIF. Hopefully I can still employ motion detection this way too.What are peoples thoughts? Stick with the Avigilon software and add the necessary channel licenses or start again and go with a Hikvision NVR, and then Im good for up to 16 channels before more expense at the NVR end?Is my current network/wiring up to the job, or do I really need to get every camera back to the NVR individually?Id also like to have the ability to monitor remotely, and perhas even have a permanent monitor set up in one room/outbuilding.I love the avigilon system, but they are starting to p*** me off with the way they price, especially with regard to upgrades and adding cameras. Grateful for any input or opinion...

Thanks for that, I shall try and see if I can load a new firmware on this camera, but unsure where I would get the a different one for the 2355. Its currently running the same version as the 3mp that works. (5.4.23) I thought this was the latest version for the 2355 camera. The quest goes on... Thanks for the replies so far and apologies for the slow responses. life has a habit of getting in the way of these things.

Hi, Apologies for the delay in responding, I had a family holiday. Installed the 3mp camera in place before I went - all worked well. Ive returned and upgraded the ACC to laest version, still no luck with the 5mp camera. The 3mp works perfectly, but the 5mp with the very same software version doesnt trigger the recording. All settings the same on both cameras (other than image size). Does anyone have an other suggestion as to why this may be?

Hi, I am currently running Avigilon ACC version 5 (5.6.2.26). I have a couple of Hkvision cameras attached model DS-2CD2335-I and they are both working fine. One is running firmware V5.4.23, the other V5.3.3. Both have motion detection configured and either trigger channel (on old firmware) or Trigger recording (on new firmware). These cameras work just fine. I have now come to add a 5mp version of the same camera (DS-2CD2355-I). It has the same firmware as one of the 3mp versions V5.4.23, I have run through all other settings and they match the same as the 3mp version. But for the life of me I cant get the 5mp version to trigger recording on the AVigilon ACC software. I cant see any obvious difference in setting or configuration between the 3mp and the 5mp Hikvision cameras, but the 3 works and the 5 doesnt. Can anyone suggest anything that may help? Perhaps a reflash of the 5mp camera? in which case could someone poin me in the direction of the most appropriate firmware?

Thanks ericq. I do have the standard version, and wondered about scheduled backups, however while that overcomes the bandwidth issue, it means that any motion detected during a possible break in would not be backed up until the evening after the event, so in the event of the security system being located and destroyed or stolen, then the recordings also go with it. I could go the route of uploading clips to the cloud upon motion detection, but given the number of cameras and frequency of movement, this may be unrealistic. I may have some strategically placed cameras which would not show movement as often and set these to only upload of motion is detected, specifically one trained on the system itself so as to capture onto the cloud anyone who may access the room with the cctv server and attack/remove it. The system itself is in a locked rack, and the actual storage could be located elsewhere so as to maximise the time the system has to capture and upload images before somebody hellbent on finding the cctv system. Thanks for the tips, its given food for thought.

Hi, Im currently running Avigilon 5, with a compbination of Avigilon and Hikvision cameras. All recording to the server locally no problem. Im looking to add some form of off site/cloud storage. Is this possible out of the box from ACC, or am I into enabling second streams and pulling them from elsewhere? Even if it is just for 10 second clips whilst ever motion is recorded rather than the whole motion event each time. Anyone have any tips or ideas on how to accomplish this?

A fairly newbie question, but as the maximum resolution that the avigilon analogue encoders will pass through is 720 x 560, is there any point in using analogue cameras with more than 720tvl in conjunction with these encoders? Any responses greatly appreciated. Many thanks.

Yep - Just had a quote back from my usual supplier it does seem that there may be a reasonable way to upgrade. Buy a single channel ACC4 license, gives a spare camera license, but also gives a free upgrade, and that upgrade will upgrade all licenses connected to the server. Works out £115 + Vat in the UK. Seems Reasonable?

Installing the latest version of 4.12.0.48 does not allow it to be installed with version 5 on the same machine. No matter what the release notes state. If you install version 4.12.0.48 and then install version 5, it upgrades the installation. Only one installation is on the machine. If you install version 5 and then install version 4.12.0.48 then this again overwrites version 5 and you still only have one version installed. The ONLY way to run both appears to be to run the standalone version. Even Microsoft can manage to allow different versions of excel/word etc to be installed on the same machine. Oh well, at least there is a solution that will workaround until I get round to upgrading the 4.12 to version 5. Sadly missed out on the free upgrade for one site as I had version 4.12 before Sept 12.

Not received anything - maybe send again?

Ok, so for mixed server environments, or for people who have the necessity to monitor sites that have different server versions, the only available option is to have both versions of the client installed on the same PC. Can you advise how you managed to install both versions of the client on the same PC? When I install version 5, it overwrites version 4.12. Similarly if I try and install version 4.12 when I already have version 5 installed, it wants to overwrite again. There does not appear to be an option during the install to select where you want the software installing (i.e. install each version in its own directory).

Many ISP's (here in the UK at least) will be able to tell you what type of usage the data was/is. i.e. standard web, streaming, P2P, gaming, etc.

Anyone had experience in connecting to a mixed version environment with Avigilon Client? I have two sites, one running avigilon server 5, the other running version 4.12. Gateway set up on both (with corresponding versions). If I install Client Version 5, I can quite happily connect to the version 5 site (client pc is on same network as the version 5 server), but cannot connect to the version 4.12 server even if I add the IP manually and select the port 50080 for the version 4.12 server If I install the Client version 4.12, then I can connect to the 4.12 server (as long as I add the site manually with its IP, because it is on a different network). But I cannot connect to the version 5 site, even if adding the correct IP and port 38880. The andriod app will happily connect to both sites and display my chosen cameras from each site. Has anyone else come across this problem? What was your solution? It appears you cant have both versions of the client installed at the same time either. Any suggestions? Many thanks for any help.