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highjacking the thread. common maaaaaaaaaan Ok so I got a hold of Dahua and asked them a few questions about there cameras... One thing the supplied software does NOT do is, if I've got all the cameras recording on a local PC (which the software would be running) then I am NOT able to tap into the software to look at and review recorded segments. The only thing I can do is tap into each individual camera and look at it in real-time. The tech at Dahua said that these cameras work well with: Milestone, NUUO, and AXXON software too and they should be able to support the multi tap. So, I was looking on each of their sites and their Freeware is Milestone: XProtect Go, AXXON Smart Pro, and NUUO does not seem to have freeware. Has anyone used either of the 2 Freewares? How do you like them and does it support tapping in from a remote location while recording on a local PC? Thanks again!

How about this for placement? The camera over the POS will obviously be pointed downward pretty good so I'm not sure how much of an angle I'll be able to get on the prep station, but the camera at the other end should catch it pretty good? The distance for the hall camera is not to far away is it? And Soundy, where did you find that height strip camera? I'm guessing the supplied software for the Dahua does not have facial recognition, but the software that comes with the height strip does? Thanks again all!

Thank you everyone for all the help! I'm looking at the OpenEye and the Dahua now... the Dahua has a fixed 3.6mm lens, while the OpenEye has a choice of fixed lenses at F1.5 Fixed (2.8mm, 6mm & 16mm Optional). Was watching the videos on the Dahua and the lens looks like it would work for all the positions in my shop, correct? I would also rather use the existing PC that I have there already instead of a NVR, but when using the supplied PC software (for either cameras, the OpenEye of Dahua) will using more then 4 cameras cut down the quality to 720p, and if more then 8 cameras, down to D1? I'm asking this because the specs for the NVRs say that this is what they do. I'm looking to use all the cameras with motion detection too so even running at 1080p all the time it wont eat-up my HDD space. Cameras with nightvision are not needed... even when closed there are 2-3 lights on for security, and if the power goes out there are 3 battery powered security lights that come on. For $200 ea. and no NVR i can grab an extra camera totaling 5... let me rework my positioning as per your suggestions.

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what are a few of the best vms software's? I'd like to see what particular cameras they run. Thanks!

what do you mean by only using their software and cameras? What other programs can you use different cameras on other then the manufacturers of the software itself?

was able to find a live demo on their site here http://heivision.com/demos.php Looks like it's a feed out of NYC. They have a 6mm and 12mm feed. Is this a normal looking feed for 2mp cameras? Or are the high quality brands much better, like Vivotek? Thanks!

I was looking at this camera, it's a 2MP unit: http://heivision.com/goods.php?id=121 Is it missing anything? It uses NVS Center software... anyone have experience with that software? Quality/features? It has 6, 8, or 12mm lenses... being 2mp would the highest (12mm) lens be the correct way to go? Thanks again all!

Hello all, I'm opening a sandwich shop and want to add between 6-8 good high quality cameras to the POS system I will be making. Windows 7 32bit system (can not use 64bit with the POS software). The POS software itself takes up almost no resources for the PC so there should be zero issues with it running with the camera system is recording in the background. Here are the questions that I have: 1. All the cameras will be inside and attached to a drop ceiling, so wiring will be very easy. Is an IP camera the way to go? I'd like to get Dome cameras that way people cant see which way the cameras are pointing. 2. If using an IP camera, other then connecting them each to a network switch via ethernet cable, is there a power cord for each of them or any other type of cabling to the PC itself? Or does everything go through the ethernet? 3. If everything goes through the network, do I need a DVR card like the GeoVision GV-600B or something else? 4. I see on a couple of the website that sell the hardware that the software for those cards are free, is that correct or are those just updates to the software that comes with the cards? Thanks for all the noob help.

The POS software I use is: http://www.pointofsuccess.com/ I've had 3 different pos software in my shops, first one was $13000 for a 3 station setup, the 2nd was $20000 for another 3 station setup... both always had issues and crap support. You could'nt do a damn thing with the software without the manufacturer stepping in and doing it for you because you dont have access to anything. They were both HUGE wastes of money. Then I found this on some forums... have used it ever since. It's cheap because you basically have to program everything yourself, which is PERFECT for me. Never had any problems in the 3 years i've been running it. Seeing as though I'm looking to get between 6-8 cameras, I'd like to stay around the $100 ea. range. Other then these cameras on ebay, where do you suggust going to buy online, and what particular one's? I'd like them all to be pretty wide angles so I can see everything going on... the wider the better as I'd probably only get 6 cameras if they cover the entire store. But whatever works better with a great image. My old DVR system was a Clover 4-camera from Sams Club (no, i didnt know any better) And the resolution on that system just sucked. I could connect it to the network but could only access the DVR on a local PC, and even that software was horrible. Buttons in the software didnt work, super choppy. Just bad. As I work from home the majority of time, this shop is about 20 miles away from me, I know internet speed will determine the choppyness of the images but I can deal with it, the highest I have (and is possible for me to get) is 12meg down speed (actually running at 10.3meg according to speedtest.net and speakeasy - if I download files from the internet the average speed is 1mbps).

also, having an additional mouse is not a problem, I always have one connected and under the counter for when I have to exit out of the POS software and do work in Windows.

This is the one potential catch: your POS system would then need to be accessible from an internet connection, which MAY NOT be something you want to do, depending on what kind of data you keep on it. If there's any sort of customer or payment info stored on it, you may want to keep it standalone. The system will always be connected to the internet, I use Logmein to access the PC when I am not at the location to "fix" any issues that arise. No customer information or credit card #'s are stored on the system... if credit card ARE run through the system, it is sent directly to the merchant account via the internet and stored on their secure servers, not ours. Last year the federal government made it illegal to store any credit card information on a workstation if the merchants software does not comply with the new processing standards for encryption. I've had this POS software in 3 of my restaurants, I've programmed and built each system, the only new thing i'm getting into is the IP cameras and software. If I use Logmein or PC Anywhere to remotely connect to this system, the employees see the same screen I do, so I need a software for the IP camera system that can run in the background while I can access the system without using a remote software like Logmein. If I take the same software that is installed on the local system, and install it on the Home PC, can I connect to the network and access the Live and older video without any interruption on the local PC?

so your just using a PC as a register then i would not class this as a POS system if it has no scanners. its just a till (manual input of price) another problem geo softeare is not touch screen comp so you will need to log out of windows then open the geo via mouse. if this is a store you need the cctv screen up all the time. you can get dedicated software for what you need but adding your own geo card is using two softwares which is not a good idea The CCTV screen will almost never be up on that station. I just need it to record the video. I will be wanting to view it from a different location, i.e. home, I'd like to be able to view the cameras live and replay past video from home.

oops, here is the other one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-Megapixel-720p-Digital-Network-CCTV-IP-Indoor-Dome-Camera-CCTV-Security-/150660675329?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5398414469388668965#ht_6126wt_862

The POS will be running from a Win7 32bit PC, using a Star USB printer, the printer prints the receipts and also sends the signal to open the cash drawer. The monitor will be an ELO touchscreen. There are no bar code scanners, caller ID inputs, other PC's on the network. It may or may not have integrated credit card processing in the POS (that will be determined by the rates the merchant services give me). If it does, it's a simple strip reader connected via USB. The database for the POS will be very small, only a few items will be in the system. It's more like a Subway were there are only a select few choices for employees to choose from.

The issue is that there will only be 1 register, no office. So I wont have anywhere to setup another system unless it's right out in the open like the POS station. If I go with the IP cameras and no card, would that work better for system resources?

Soundy - I was looking on ebay at cameras like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wired-Serveillance-CCTV-IP-Camera-IR-Night-Vision-Dome-/290578553280?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a7d4d9c0#ht_3746wt_1095 and http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wired-Serveillance-CCTV-IP-Camera-IR-Night-Vision-Dome-/290578553280?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a7d4d9c0#ht_3746wt_1095 the only diffrence I see is that the top one is 1meg and it says "Client Software Not Supported Browser Viewing", which means that I need the software installed on my android and at home, i cant just lookup the ip? While the bottom one is .3meg and supports 4 online visitors at once. Thoughts? tomcctv, why do you suggest that? Through the POS software the employees are not able to escape out of the POS to do anything to the recording software.