Thanks for the super fast reply. We are currently using rather cheap IR bullet cams, like what KGuard sells in their kits. The cam needs to be waterproof, IR should not be a necessity as its pointing at a LED sign thats on, and reasonably wide angle lens. The current lenses are just standard what comes with them and they are fine. Due to number we will eventually need - the cheaper the better, rather replace the odd camera than up the cost. The use is mostly to confirm sign is up and no missing modules etc, so hi quality is not the important factor here, just an image that you can see. Not and IP cam, current are bnc composite video out. Any suggestions?