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Christ what an friggin industry... OK It's great you found decent cameras my friend but please don't PR line me and then try to sell me bloody cameras... (I'm needling ya OK!) I'm curious what's so special about the "environment" those 8-10 cameras are in that's causing issues... Freezer rooms in a meat packing plant or grocery store freezer room or.. uhh smelter room or WHAT !?! So I take it you're having PoE powering issues with the cameras? Please share segment length and type/brand of cat cable that lead to these issues and the PSE (injectors or PoE switch) used. I take it then it's a PoE design issue at the camera SBC. VRM issues etc I assume... At what segment/IFL length does the issue become apparent? The PD in the camera... is it "Alternative A" or "Alternative B" design? I have seen issues where the PSE detects the WRONG CLASS for the PD and then doesn't send enough current or the PD reports to PSE the wrong class... again same resulting problem/issue. I betcha the PD IE the camera is reporting the wrong class to the PSE and then not enough current is being sent. It must have some logic in the firmware also about the fan/blower as it can't operate with IR going. During the PoE "handshake" the Zavio PD should be reporting to the PSE that it's class 2/3 and IMHO it should report class 3 considering the cazy high power IR LEDs on the thing. I will suggest again that Planet brand PoE switch that's "high power". I sure hope you're not trying to use midspand PoE PD/PSE switch on a 600 foot two segment run or something SILLY... I have seen that one many times... I don't get WTF they would think you'd have enough current after a 100m run into the PD powered PoE switch and then run another 100m... Don't these IDIOTS understanding BASIC ELECTRICAL CONCEPTS! http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=43178 PS if I ran those cameras I'd run two segments one for PoE/net and one for PoE with a 5/9/12V splitter also feeding 12v at the SAME TIME... If you read the manual you'd realize this is needed if you want the fan/blower to go whilst the IR is going for the B7210.

I also should point out that the AVtech "Push Video" feature with Eagle Eyes is also available on some Zavio cameras. Even the iOS app/UI looks almost identical to "EagleEyes" and has the "push video" feature on/off in UI the SAME. It's interesting that Zavio doesn't really market this ability like AVtech does. It's bloody obvious that Zavio and Icybox are the same ODM but it looks like that Zavio is a newer "revision" or SBC internals etc.

I'm always trying to find decent cameras at a REASONABLE PRICE... I thought that Zavio B7210 fit the bill but it seems this is not the case. Have you guys seen these cameras from AirLive? http://www.airlive.com/product/category/Network-Surveillance Looking at some of the AirLive models I can't help but think that Zavio isn't the ODM/OEM of some of their designs. Take a look at the bar cams from both outfits... I'm 90% sure that AirLive did the ODM/OEM but Zavio did the firmware. Here is another interesting solution from an outfit in Germany called RaidSonic that again is a stencil outfit that doesn't do the design but buys OEM/ODM and stencils. http://www.raidsonic.de/en/products/cameras.php?pid=4_1_1 And this one is the same bloody unit as the Zavio B7210 from what I can see... http://www.raidsonic.de/en/products/cameras.php?we_objectID=8145 The Germans seem to use an entirely different firmware even though it's the same hardware. http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/security/631-raidsonic-icy-box-ib-cam2002-1-3mp-outdoor-ip-camera?showall=&limitstart= Does anybody know the OEM/ODM because IMHO it's neither Zavio or RaidSonic that engineered the camera hardware. I have a feeling AirLive might be the ODM as they are a MUCH BIGGER engineering house than the other outfits... AirLive Camera Zavio Camera Zavio B7210 RaidSonic Icy Box IB-CAM-G2214H

You can afford JDSU but u can't afford better camera then Zavio the one of lowest quality product on market I come from an IT and structred wiring background and thus have that test equipment on hand. I wouldn't say that B7210 is poor quality! If you think that then I suggest you try out AVtech's gear where they can't even be bothered to place connectors on the end of the camera pigtails. LOL BTW has anyone tried Digifort or Digifort with Zavio? I heard Digifort works well with Zavio cameras...

OR better yet purchase NVR designed HDs meant for this purpose! PS on flash NVR HD firmware into non NVR HD...

Do you MASTER/FACTORY RESET the cameras AFTER FIRMWARE UPDATE? I know it's a PITA to do so BUT I ALWAYS do this with any embedded system platform and not doing so IMHO is lazy and FOOLISH. I'm about to buy some of those Outdoor bullet 7210s and now you got me thinking... THANKS Also you can't use the heater and blower with just PoE you need a second segment and 12V. I use the Planet PoE "splitter" for this purpose using another 802.3af segment from PoE switch. PS checkout this HIGH POWER Planet PoE switch http://www.planet.com.tw/en/product/product_ov.php?id=43178 PSS Do you guys "certify" your network segments with something from JDSU etc? I ALWAYS DO THIS...

I'd seriously look at hacking the unit and loading Android on it. That OS it's currently using is a DEAD END and RIM is yanking "side loading" of android apps! Makes one wonder WTF is going on with management at RIM as it's a really stupid move... Google "Dingleberry".

I also found another unit, though a lot more expensive, called the Planet PoE-151S (100mbit) and PoE-152S (GigE). I'm curious if anyone has used those units from Planet.com.tw I also can't source the PoE switched I've used in the past from Edgecore SMCGS10P-Smart so I'm looking at the Netgear GS110TP-100NAS and am also curious if anyone has used this unit. Thanks for all of the help and input guys! Current BoM is the following if anyone wants to comment. 2 AVN80X indoor 2 AVN807 outdoor 1 AVH306 NVR with 2TB WD2002FAEX 2 LC-151 outdoor sensors 2 FSA-410AST smoke detectors It's going to cost about $2000 bucks total for a 4 cam, 2 outdoor PIR, 2 indoor PIR and smoke alarm. He will be running EagleEyes on a Blackberry but will be migrating to iOS. After much research I believe this is the most robust system I can come up with at this price point for home use. Opinions?

God I don't want to get into fights again here. BTW that dude has been tracking to HACK MY NETWORK Since that conversations I've seen port scans originating from 20.6.128.254 That's in Burlingame in Cali. Hey if you don't stop doing that I'll contact the dudes that run you're server rack there pal! 11:22:42 AM 20.6.128.254 Host blocked for 5 min SCAN (58827, 14796, 27852, 38092, 48076, 48332, 57804, 58060, 3277, 23245) 5/15/2012 10:02:22 PM 20.6.128.254 Host blocked for 5 min SCAN (30918, 40646, 40390, 59846, 60102, 4039, 13767, 25543, 35271, 57543) Serious freaked out on how he got past my SPI firewall/router. Those packets should not have made it through to the intranetwork.

So where are you from? Croatia? Serbia? Slovakia? Romania? I'd bet you're from Eastern Europe. Where!?! I'd also be willing to bet you're under the age or thirty. **** considering your maturity and prose you must be... ****... under 24 even...

WOW you're a real pro ehh! Curious... where are you from? I'm also curious why you said that Avigilon software is crap and the worst you've used. If you make a comment like that please try to share the WHY you feel this way. Any JACKASS can make comment without backing it up with something....

They don't list a true resolution; they say it's "11 megarays", whatever that means. (You can currently export images as JPEG, at 1,080px X 1,080px) They say it's 16MB for a single image. Given the sheer amount of data they do store in each image, using I/P frame differences like h.264 does is either highly unlikely, or insanely processor intensive. Estimated sizes if we assume NO compression: 1 image: 16MB 1 second: 480MB 1 minute: 28.8GB 1 hour: 1.65TB 1 day: 39.6 TB If they can swing something akin to h.264, then the numbers would obviously change to something a bit more reasonable. Just checked my recording, and an entire day of analog h.264 (1.5Mbps) is between 15GB and 16GB. The biggest hurdle will be price. Digging around for some Raytrix camera pricing (the people that really started the whole lightfield thing), they sell their R5 camera for just under €3000. That camera can do 30fps over GigE, or 90fps over USB3. Aperture is lousy, so lighting matters. But the max 2d image size? 1 megapixel (source: http://www.raytrix.de/tl_files/downloads/R5.pdf). Also, the Raytrix cameras require CUDA GPUs to perform a lot of their processing it seems. Very interesting stuff dustmop and thanks for sharing.

hahah What a great marketing video 7babcK2GH3I

Curious corneliu.matei if you managed to find a solution. I'm very curious if it has a TFTP recovery option in the device's bootloader.

I'm curious what you guys think of the AVtech cameras. In particular their ETS series with PoE. It's a real shame the push series doesn't have PoE. Not having PoE on a cam is a deal breaking IMHO. I don't understand why all IP cameras don't have standards PoE. Of particular interest to me is the AVM357A. Anyone have experience with this product? Anybody know where I can source in Canada and who the distro is?