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There are many legitimate lenses on ebay, just some of the far eastern sellers seem to have a problem with marketing The computar lenses usually need a controller, the wires from the lens will power the motors directly, so you in turn need to power those wires somehow! Datasheets should be available for the computar range if you put the model number into google, which should show you the connection details. You will probably need a telemetry receiver at the camera to power the lens functions, and a transmitter at the dvr (unless you get a receiver that is compatible with your dvr if possible) - or just hardwire a control unit, either homebuilt, or one from a supplier. I have a few computar/pentax zoom lenses of about the same age, they were all second hand and work fine!

No idea what lens you are looking at, so its impossible to say it definately wont have a rs485 port - but all the motorised zoom lenses I have used had just simple connectors or wires that you had to connect to your own controller. The lenses have wires to control the motors directly, and some will have wires for feedback of the zoom etc position. The feedback wires are usually just linked to variable resistors (potentiometers, or pots for short) that move with the rotation of the zoom. You could either hardwire your own controller using batteries or a dc power source (you would need to check the specs for the lens to see if its 9v or 12v or whatever) and switches - or buy a proper controller/telemetry system. Do you have a model no for the lens? Be aware, I have seen chinese etc sellers on ebay sell new lenses claiming they are motor zoom, when they are not! And when questioned about this, they reply with some nonsense and never correct the auction.... You may be able to get away with just using the backfocus adjustment on the cp464 to move the lens the 5mm and save having to get a c/cs adapter, I often manage to do it that way, just on a few cams it cant be done, or does not work and the adapter is required. The 464 backfocus is easy to adjust though if I recall.

Before I do have a good nights sleep, im confused on one point, to quote you "the good thing is, I got a few laughs out of you.." You got a few laughs out of making yourself look like a liar,a imbecile and a criminal? Wow, you have a odd sense of humour.

Yup, as you say, that sort of thing is viable to do, but just not viable to produce............. I have a dvr that is supposed to ignore repetative movement, but to be honest, it sometimes stops recording when it should not. Motion detection is so basic on dvrs, its basically a joke - it either works, or it does not. There is no real thought involved in the design/production of 99 percent of motion systems. Its all about marketing, not results. To date, I have never seen ANY system where I could hand on heart say, hey the designers actually cared about the end result, and had experience of security. The closest I have come to saying that, is with BBV systems who come very close.

Never had a working dome, but i would bet bottom dollar that no system on the market will be able to offer motion detection during a patrol. Just not viable commercially to produce. Technically it would be possible, but not viable cost wise. When a cam moves, it produces lots of movement. Almost ALL movement detection is based on very basic principles, often the 'more' avdanced ones are more trouble than they are worth. to design a system to ignore movement but alarm on movement is complicated, as it needs to know what is legit movement, and what is not. if anyone has any details to the contrary, please shout up

tell us more about the type of dvrs you make, and are capable of making ...

But unless you can back it up with footage, I would myself be wary, as I have never met a honest salesperson in my life. Im sure they must exist, just never seen one... Plus even if I met one, I would still never listen to a word they said. Sales people should never sell technical solutions - technical people should. But I agree, its a good idea to give examples of how cctv covers more than just direct theft/violence coverage.

woodyads, you have 4 million to play with, in a specialist application.... your needs are not the same as the needs of 99 percent of most other people. Personally I think you are putting all your eggs in one basket, but thats your choice... for 4 million you could get any solution to work, and me personally, I would not touch MS as a overall solution in that price range, that to me is stupidity.... But each to their own views. One other thing.. If it goes wrong, will you come here and tell people about it? I guess not, as you wont want to look a fool.

Note to mods. Keep all logs from tonight. I wish to log a formal complaint, and formally ask forum mods/admin to report the full details of this to the revelant authorities, and report back to me with the actions they have taken regarding this idiot posing as a security consultant to the federal government. If I dont here back from the forum admins/mods I will have no choice but to report this myself (nd it wont look good that the forum did not co-operate) I will have fun with this. You will be caught. Put it this way, if your not, then the USA cant stop any form of terrorist activity if they cant even stop a idiot like you. Have fun sleeping.

Actually I think stopping a twat like you is important. Im sure the federal government will have no problem tracing you from the datestamps and IP logs from here and your ISP. From there, they will get your address.. The rest Im sure you can imagine. Lets hope someone from the FBI reads this. Or someone reports you. People like you should be in jail.

Never said it was, But I do want to know what goeverment department you are a consultant for. The government is responsible to the public, so you as a consultant should disclose that information when asked. Why do you not wish to disclose it? Are you lying? I hope you realise that lying about being a consultant to federal government in order to make money (and probably any other reason)is a offence? If you are not a liar and a fraud, you would reply to me, with full details.

Wow thats a big fish!

As you are a consultant to the federal goverment, can you please tell me which department you are dealing? I will have a word with them. If your honest, you wont mind giving the details on this forum of the department, so I can contact them. If your really what you say, then you wont mind. Personally I think your lying.

No offence, but I find that amazing. You are a security consultant for federal government? Yet you are totally clueless about even the basics of electrical testing, or even cctv suppliers? Either your lying, or ripping of the government, or standards are so low in your country they hire anyone. Im honestly in shock, that if what you say is true, this sort of thing is allowed to go on. If you really had been 'installing for years' you would not have posted you are doing your first install in a few days, nor would you have asked questions so basic that I would based on the level of experience of someone asking those questions, would not even recommend you wire a plug, never mind a security system. Plus a security consultant needs honesty and integrity as a basic part of their services, something your posts which totally disagree with themselves show a total lack of (ie post 1 - I have just started installing and this post - been doing it for years.) Just read your post history, and ask yourself - would you trust someone that contradicted themselves so much?

Do you not think you are putting yourself and your clients in a dangerous situation, the last thing I would expect from any one running a security firm is for them to state "Hi my name is Andrew and I just recently started installing CCTV" and ask questions like "what suggestions you all had in terms of buying a wire tester (to check connections of BNC connectors and siamese)" etc... If you have no exerience, you cant be a real consultant, and offer SAFE and expert advice. Just a thought.....

Hi welcome to the forum! Thought I recognised your blog, its listed in my blog directory (lsblogs.com)

DVR's take a composite video signal, same as the phono A/V socket on a tv or video (except the DVR will have BNC sockets instead of phono). As long as your camera has a seperate video out signal going to a phono plug (seems to by specs, but best check!) you would need to get a BNC to phono adapter (or chop the end of the camera and wire on a BNC yourself) in order to physically plug it in. Then the video should work... Audio would depend on the wiring again, you may need an adapter, or to replace the connectors, and it would also mean you have to get a dvr that can record audio, not all do!

Do the infra red lamps (the proper lamps, not the LED type) used for CCTV use a normal type of bulb (ie a halogen or something, with normal visible light) and then just block out the visible light with some sort of plastic IR filter at the front, or do they use a special Infra Red lamp, along with the front filter? Just wondering, as if they use standard lamps, I may get some IR filter material and try knocking one up, see how it goes...

Here is a interesting read about microsoft http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS.html its very long though!

Anything in the geovision logs? Video loss, stopped monitoring etc?

Not familiar with that make of card, so no idea if its genuine or not.. Although, I notice a few things to be wary about. 1. The makers say its not genuine. Either you got someone there who is not familiar with their products, or its really not genuine. 2. See attached pic, it looks like a sticker of some sort has been removed from one of the chips. Possibly the cards real identity has been removed on purpose to sell it as a fake? 3. See attached pic, this is either bad design (last minute fix) or very poor production, as it looks to me like the surface mount component highlighted in the attached pic has fell from its pad and is soldered where it should not be (especially in comparision to the other sets of identical components). If its not meant to be like that, then that could well be causing problems. I would ask the manufacturer again to confirm in writing or email that it is not genuine, then get in touch with the distributer, and tell them the manufacturer has told you its a fake, and if they dont send you a genuine one straight away, that you will sue (and do so - or at least shop them to the manufacturer). Cant stand people who make/sell fake cards.

For one of items, you will probably find it on ebay, I get pretty much all my electrical components from ebay these days, works out quite cheap, and you can get brand new stuff... Only thing I cant find so far on ebay seems to be the rails that you mount din rail mounted items on.

I didnt think aluminium suffered from rust problems, or is there another reason you are thinking off?

New technology, less competition, need to recoup r&d costs, clever (if often downright misleading) marketing and people willing to pay high prices. Its easier to make a digital only device, than it is to make a combined analogue/digital device, less of a skillset needed - and less components usually. Prices should plummet in time, but then again, the cctv industry will probably keep the prices artifically inflated for a long time past the 'plummet' point.

Depends on the quality of the padlock. I lost the keys to a cheap one, and cut through it in a few seconds with a little hacksaw. Not tried a top-end one, but I assume bolt cutters would make a quick job of even those.