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What about just a really small camera I can hide inside a big teddy bear or something like that? What's the smallest decent day/night color camera there is? With audio if possible.

So you're saying there does exist a color IR hidden camera, but they look pretty funny? That's fine. I really just care that they don't look like cameras. What specific models/brands are these? Where can I find these?

I'm looking everywhere for the best covert or indoor cameras for my home. I need about 5 covert and 3 or 4 indoor cameras. Possibly they're all covert. I'm not picky in how they're covert, smoke detector, motion detector, wall clock, strange looking device, etc.. just as long as it doesn't look like a camera. It's really difficult for me to tell which are the good ones and which suck. This is a lot of money for me, so I've been trying hard to do my homework. Here's what I'm looking for: audio, though I guess I can always get a separate mic if required low light, only a nightlight will be lighting the rooms at night color during the day wired, so that motion detection in my recording software isn't tripped by static

You guys have any recommendations on particular brands or models of cameras I should get?

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Excellent points Thomas. Did not think about wireless and motion detection. Ok, no wireless for me. Hmm... you're right about the audio too. Audio doesn't help with the major things I'm looking for. However, as a super-paranoid father who's obsessed with his little boy I would like to know what's being said around or to him. Maybe someone is raising their voice to him for no reason and I can't tell just from the video. Or someone is using language I don't appreciate around/to him. You mention that I wouldn't want audio recorded. But does it hurt to have it recorded just in case? Legally, I think I'm going to tell my nanny that the house is being recorded, but not tell her where all the camera/mics are. Here in Florida, that's legal from what I read.

Thank you so much rory for your quick and valuable response! I have seen others mention geovision a lot while perusing these forums. The demo looked pretty decent. So I guess I'll go with them. Good points. I was actually not so worried about the mess I'd leave, rather the work involved in setting up the whole thing again . Not the end of the world if I lose a signal for very short periods periodically, but obviously would prefer not to miss a thing. Would these 1200mhz wireless systems work well considering that I don't have 1200mhz devices in my home? Sounds excellent, I'll definitely use dual video/power cables. Do the video portions of the cable include audio? Or I need a separate cable for that? Does geovision work with ip cameras? Or only cameras connected directly to its card? So mpeg4 is best for recording onto the local system and H.264 is best for viewing the video over the internet? Does geovision support that combination? Ok, so you suggest getting B/W GE (general electric?) hidden cameras without audio and then a separate audio microphone for each camera? There aren't any decent cameras with microphones? That seems odd, why not? I'd really like color, especially if I'm going to be staring and playing back all these videos all the time. No good color cameras with some kind of night vision that include audio? and are hidden? I guess I'm asking for too much... What specific camera brands or models do you recommend then? ok, I looked up the GV800. Problem is it only has 4 audio inputs. I'd really like to hear the audio where my baby is. The GV-1120-8 has 8 audio inputs and otherwise seems to be the same thing for about $100 more. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "more real time with motion." Thanks again rory for helping me out here!

Hi guys, I'm new here and new to the CCTV industry as well. I really urgently need to get a complete nanny-cam solution for my house as I go back to an office next week. But I'm having the most difficult time finding the best DVR and cameras. I'm willing to spend up to $5,000 including installation an 8 or 9 camera solution. That's why this is so difficult for me, I'm worried I'll spend $5,000, which is a LOT of money for me (my son deserves whatever it takes for his safety) and I'll end up with something not so great. So what do you guys recommend? Vendors, I'm open to your offers as well. Please be as specific as possible as I have no clue what are the quality brands or vendors. Here are some basic features I want, please suggest any features I'm missing: audio recording on all cameras low light conditions (only a nightlight) on at least a few of the cameras for when he sleeps/naps color video (though I understand some cameras turn to black&white in low light conditions, that's fine) ability to view live and recorded video over my internet connection (from my office in particular) motion detection so I don't have to wade through hours and hours of video/audio from all 8/9 cameras at least 15fps per camera so I can see things like shaking or if my son quickly bumps his head, etc (needed locally, I understand the internet limitations, I can review certain clips when I get home) at least 5 cameras need to be hidden, maybe all of them should be Would be great if there's a quality and affordable wireless solution so I don't have to hire someone to drill into my walls. But I do have a 2.4ghz wifi network in my house. And we have a 900mhz video monitor, along with 5.8ghz portable phones. Everything works great wirelessly in my house, but maybe the wireless camera setup will get interference from it. Not worried about my neighbors. Also, I can then easily take this setup to my new house when I move in a year. I'm very technically capable, so a DVR card solution is fine with me if that's the best way to go. I read that H.264 is the best compression now, followed by mpeg-4. So sounds good.. especially for viewing over the internet. My house is about 2800 sqft between 2 floors. If wireless is not feasible due to quality or price, would be nice to wire ethernet instead of bnc or other cables as I could then have ethernet access everywhere. Not a big deal though as wifi works great. I apologize for the long post... just trying to get any AMAZING person willing to help me all the info they might need.