AaronHolio

Shockwave, I will have to check. Right now I have the 32 channel system all prepped to an install .. In other words everything lying on a floor and I have all cameras record all the time but also flag motion events for flagging.

I did buy one of the HiKvision 3mp cameras and it seems to work fine with the 32 channel Dahua model I got from n e l l y security .com, I think there may only be a couple camera attributes that you can't control from the Dahua interface but I'm not certain yet. For that you can login via the web interface. The picture quality is really clear. You can tell the crisp difference between it and the 1080p (2mp) Dahua cameras. I actually bought a 16 port Trendnet gbit PoE switch http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3441IG/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to put everyone on my LAN (which is the NVR's WAN side) so I can directly connect to them via web browser and do more detailed configuration. HiK has more mature software for controlling the camera as well as a pretty decent Software based NVR recording suite. However I prefer a dedicated device managing/recording my cameras vs a PC.

I don't have time yet to write a really good review. But I can say the QC828 does do a decent job at handling 8 1080 cameras at once. It has been upgraded to Web Server 3.0 which is a HUGE improvement over the Web Service 2.0 piece of junk. You have to remember to go into Internet explorer and turn off active filtering for the sites you want to use it with or nothing will work. However I still wasn't happy. 240FPS really means you get about 20-25fps per camera and it still doesn't pack the horse power that they could have spent an extra $15 bucks adding. Luckily I found a Dauha reseller (ok for some reason I can't post a the URL here????, so the web address spread out) n e l l e y s s e c u r i t y . com ...and ended up going with their 32 camera 8 PoE port Dahua model (Remember Q-see is just repackaged Dahua equipment stripped to be the cheapest. So I ended up paying a bit more from N e l l y and getting the manly version of the device. I put 2 4TB drives in it and it is handling all the live data I can feed it without dropping a frame. It even supports 3 and 5 megapixel cameras very well.. Its limit is 160mbit of total throughput, so think of it this way. a 720p 1.3mp camera runs around 6mbit, a 1080p 2.0mp camera does about 8-9mbit, and 3mp does between 10-12mbit. I've displayed 20 1080p cameras and 1 3mp camera on a 1080p 50" LED TV and it is utterly beautiful. Clear as a bell. So I'm going to sell my QC804 and QC828 and go with the EySurv-ESDV-NVR-32-32-channel-nvr with 8 PoE ports. I bought a 16 port PoE ethernet switch and will leave the on board PoE ports empty because I prefer to have my cameras all on the local LAN so I can hit their web interface and make custom changes that the NVR doesn't really allow you do to. Then you just go into remote devices and find the 1080p cams on the LAN side and adopt that as you wish. I've discovered that allowing all your cameras to get DHCP addresses doesn't always work out for the best, so I set my router to stop offering DHCP addresses above 192.168.0.199 - then hard setting the NVR to .200 and each camera .201 .202 .203 etc so in case your router ever loses a DHCP lease, you'll have them all manually set and easy to adopt in the remote devices section of the NVR. I was so glad that Ryan at n e l l y s security sent me an email after reading one of my posts on youtube complaining as to why Dahua produces high end versions, but Q-See puts out the wimpiest 3 year old models. I finally have the NVR I want and will be installing it for 3 more of my clients in the coming months. While you still can get the Dahua (Q-see) 1080p cameras for a little cheaper from Costco, you can get HikVision 3mp cameras from n e l l y for cheaper, which do work with the Dahua NVR pretty well. Personally I'm looking forward to the 5mp cameras.. The 3mp is a definite improvement over the 2mp 1080p models, but your frame rate will drop to 20fps unless you put them in 1080p mode - which is still a bonus because it does provide a cleaner and more crisp picture. Thew views I'm getting off these units is spectacular. N e l l y s secutiry They are very helpful and they don't wait around like Q-See to release the good stuff. Very responsive and helpful with great advice. So I'm gonna sell my QC804 and QC828.

I'm ordering a system this week before the sale goes off on Costco.com. Note this is a one month deal with about 2.5 weeks left. Before taking it to the install site I'm going to fully set it up here at home and make SURE it is really doing 240FPS on all 8 channels @ 1080P. If not, back to Costco it will go. I really wish they had the 16 channel 480FPS 1080p system already. That is really what we need. So what we'll likely do is install this one, wait till late next year when the new 16 channel version comes out, buy it and swap the 8 channel to my house and put the 16 channel at our business site.

Older slower model with 720p cameras. Not the 8 camera 1080p on the Costco deal. Not exactly true. Due to the compression method, recording all cameras non-stop does not mean they have a fixed bit rate. I have 6+ months of 4 720 cameras recorded on my 4 720p camera system because while it may save a frame per second to the HD when little to nothing changes, it only records full bit rate to the HD when there is motion. Basically the difference in this system is, they boosted the broadcom chip that does the mp4 decoding from the cameras, and possibly used a better main ARM processor. In any case, whenever Q-See states 30FPS, you can actually expect about 20fps. My QC804, at best gets 15-20fps with all 4 cameras displaying via HDMI monitor. If Q-See where a more robust company, they would put a little head room in. So instead of this having 240FPS @ 1080p, they could have rounded up to 300FPS and really had a solid product. So what this product release means is that we will likely see a 16 channel 480FPS 16-PoE port system around October-December of 2014. Likely to be around $2000. Tip for you all on Android, buy IP Cam Viewer Pro on Good Play market. It is $4 and far more stable and functional that the crap Q-See makes available. Their PC PSS software is absolute junk. CMS doesn't work for crap. And their web interface only works in Internet Explorer AFTER you turn off ActiveX filtering in your security tab of IE. If you use FireFox, install IE Tab Plugin 4.x and add your site to always open using IE engine and it should work ok. If Q-See was a decent company, these NVR units would work in any browser. They could at a minimum release a add-on for FireFox and Chrome. That being said, this isn't too bad of a deal since they upgraded the HD to 2TB and the cameras to 1080p. Another thing that is VERY important, the camera lens is 65-70 degrees view. The 720p cameras were only 45 deg. Which makes covering an area that is close to your camera very limited.

I flashed to the latest firmware. They provide a single update.bin for all the models (804 808 and 8016). It is all the same hardware, they just make you pay hundreds more for a software encoded switch. Ridiculous. If they'd just put in a faster ARM processor (which are super cheap and fast thanks to them being used in just about every smart phone) and the TI chip which does the decoding of the cameras into the NVR. Honestly, I wish a company would come up with a new cheap NVR box, with an ARM processor running Android for the operating system. A good clean modern interface with lots of future firmware/software upgrades. If Q-See doesn't offer a serious upgrade to their new NVR line I'm going to have to look to another brand.

I got my 4 channel kit at Costco for $599 over a year ago.. and I contacted their sales dept and they have very low chance of selling the qc808 or qc8016 at Costco anytime soon. Which is disappointing because I prefer to buy from costco and all the hardware of the 804 - 808 - 8016 has been confirmed to be the exact same performance, it is nothing more than a software switch that they charge a whole lot more for.. The total FPS is the same on all units.. And they say 30FPS, but often you get about 15FPS even on the main display.. It is really too bad they didn't put a better/faster set of chips in the unit.. Much more is discussed on these threads viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32554 viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33075 viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33196

Looks like the QC804 is available again at Costco (back in stock), but according to Q-See, they have no plans to sell the 8016 there. Too bad. It seems Costco had the best prices and I have 2 sites that I was waiting on the 8016 for. Q-See's store wants $3000 for an 8016 with 12 cameras, and a few other sites are selling it for $1700 with 8 702p cameras. https://www.google.com/search?q=QC8016 I do see a small trend that the QCN8001D 1080p cameras are slowly coming down in price.

Oh there it is. http://qsee.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1877 Looks like they made it a single update.bin (14.4MB) for all 3 models. Doesn't look like it does too much unless you are running cameras other than their branded models. This Firmware has the following fixes and functions: - 1. Improves ONVIF IP Camera support

I don't see it on their site. Are they only giving it out upon request? I'd sure like it if someone attempted to use the 8016 firmware on the 804 since from what everyone can tell, it is all the same hardware. viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33196&p=217187#p217187

Thx for the input. From a CPU perspective, it seems the specs are the same. There is a high probability they are also using a hardware decoder card for displaying video, but i haven't had a chance to check yet. I think someone mentioned it was a broadcom h.264 decoder chip. The debate may be if it is any different in the 804 808 or 8016. Since Q-See states the same total unit frame rate for all models, it is pretty likely the same chip. On another note, I see Costco is out of stock on the 804.. So perhaps we'll see the 8016 in time. Even tho Q-See said it would be at Costco first of the year.

Oh boy, I came into this thread searching for troubles with the Active X control and never even looked at the post date! Thank you. I PM'ed you.

I have the latest firmware on the QC448 DVR and what shipped with my QC804 NVR (Q-See said there was no new update yet). I am not accessing the cameras directly, only via web browser direct to the DVR and NVR. So in Firefox and Chrome, it wants to use Quicktime, which results in no video streaming. I tried several tips and tricks on the web to try to direct chrome and firefox to VLC. But couldn't get any results. Including changing control panel -> programs -> default programs -> set associations .rtp and .rtsp (and several other streaming types) to point from quicktime to VLC. Works in IE of course, but as I reported before since IE10.x, the webrec.cab is causing the browser to crash now and then. Worked fine before. I sure hope webrec.cab plugin is getting a complete upgrade for all the models at some point. It sure has its problems (and would be nice if it was signed too).

Strange. I turned off the ActiveX blocking, turned security down all the way, added as a safe site, and only 1 out of 6 machines accepted the change permanently. But now I don't have to worry, I have it installed permanently for now. Re the HTML5 - True I should have thought of that. I tend to get a little ahead of trends. I realize that would be pretty difficult for an OEM to already be fully supporting something so new. Any thoughts on getting other browsers to not try using the Quicktime plugin? I did some research to try to get VLC and other mp4 players to grab the MIME type, but never figured it out. For some odd reason, for the 3 systems I have running that I try to connect to with Chrome/FF - Quicktime rarely works. Kind of gets stuck in a [logo] dot dot dot dot trying to load screen and doesn't come up. I'd love it if I could get a different player to embed and take care of it.

Cool Rory, can we get a copy once you have it ready? I think I could use this for a couple of my clients. Navigating PSS is too difficult for them. I'd love something I could run (perhaps with command line arguments?) or simple presets that would allow them to pull it right up with no login and extra stuff.