Joel Grant

Hi guys, Ive got a night vision project I want to do and was thinking of getting this style of camera to mod : 1/3" SONY 960H EXview HAD CCD II 700TVL 0.0003Lux Real-WDR OSD 3D-DNR Sens-Up(X1024) CCTV Video Mini Box Camera (Without Lens) http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=MC-300-11673&catId=0&manual=y While the camera sounds cool for the price and specs (to me), I'm not sure if there is a better way to go. I really want the best possible low light sensitivity I can get without going much over this price of this camera. I have looked around for about a week now trying to make heads and tails but cant seem to work it out. What exview sensor options are there and what is the best in regard to light sensitivity? Is there a data sheet anywhere that i can comare all of the sensors? I imagine all the low light functions on the above style camera will will help alot but is some othe style out there that is knowen to be better? Also the camera is color, but at night it can switch to B/W, when it does though, does the lux abilty increase as well or is an dedicated B/W camera better? To me thats what it appears the spec's are saying. So in other words, is this color exview sensor capable of doing B/W like a dedicated B/W exview sensor? I under stand there are many different factors. Thanks heaps in advance guys Joel

Hi guys So i just bought a LCL 902K. Prob be many weeks before it arrives though. Guess there might be a few questions comming up then. Joel

Thanks Horizon, Fireball nd Kawboy12R Yer I like the KTC but prob the 1/2" is for me I've followed your advice on checking the different sites but still no luck. I Just need to know of the product changes of the LCL 902k so i dont get a old one etc. Hope there all the same but prob not hey. So any ideas please let me know. And... is it possible to fit normal camera lenses to a cctv? Joel

Yer interesting, good to see at least a similar manual. So do you guys have any idea where I could go to get the history of the changes to these cameras? LCL 902K in perticlar eg. in 2003 the up graded the sensor, in 2007 they added ... etc. The Watec exview cctv's sounds good but as i dont know that much on this subject I need all the help I can get. Are there any other better options for that price range eg. cheap exview in another brand? It appears there are not many setting options on the watec. The video out I imagine can go straight into a PAL tv? Should it be EIA or CCIR? Also the lens ...ouch... its a 1/2 sensor but if i go for a 1/3 lens I would imagine a black circle (just edges i hope) would be visable, but a part from that will it still let in the same amount of light that the f-stop says? Or are there any superduper places i can get a f1.2 IR Auto iris if possible and maybe zoom as well... without going hungry for the next 6 months!? Joel

Thanks I cant seem to find any data sheets for the LCL 902k. I think it might be out of production, thats fine cause i can only afford a second hand one, But I need to find out first if all the LCL 902k have the exact same specs so i dont get stung when buying one. Any help please? Joel

Ok so is the watec LCL 902H ok?

Thanks guys, The tables were great. So how does sensitivity (MV) relate to actual low light pick up? And what does the Saturation signal [mV] mean in relation to sensitivty? Because while I understand that B/W will be better in low light the tables show that the color sensors actually have a higher mV???? What am I missing? The sensor in the camera i want ( 1/3" SONY 960H EXview HAD CCD II 700TVL 0.0003Lux Real-WDR OSD 3D-DNR Sens-Up(X1024) CCTV Video Mini Box Camera (Without Lens) http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=MC-300-11673&catId=0&manual=y ) has a sensitivity of 2450 mV with a Saturation signal of 600 mV So how should I read all of this? Joel