Thomas

On just a pure chip basis, any chip costs a few dollars to make. But firmware isn't free. Licencing isn't free. Software in this case isn't free. Printing the board isn't free. Getting the FCC requirements isn't free. There are always more costs then raw materials and labor in anything. And that doesn't begin to factor in profit.

We do support recorded playback over the web, we just don't keep much on the demo server due to the fact that we're human and we don't want long term storage of us doing things. As far as the casino goes, they generally use hardware/software in the higher end of the range. What they pay per system is alot more because they have to have systems that do more, record longer and in higher detail then the average user. The question is as far as development, how many units will you need? A one off for the building? Then no. Entering the field? Then yes.

For what? Tivo use? CCTV use? How many cameras? Do you need Casino style setups (and more importantly are willing to pay for it)? Is it your home?

Yeah, it's a close cousin. It's a bit more deceptive, and it's something that irrates me.

Astroturf is a "fake" grass that is used in the US for indoor arenas. It's a plastic that is simular in traction to real grass. Astroturfing is the concept of a fake grassroots campain. Word of mouth is the best advertisement there is, so marketing people attempt to make "fake" word of mouth to generate intrest. So instead of being a whole bunch of real people promoting a product, it's someone connected with the product doing it.

Strange that they block other ports. But some commanly used ones that should be open are: 20 FTP data (File Transfer Protocol) 21 FTP (File Transfer Protocol) 22 SSH (Secure Shell) 23 Telnet 25 SMTP (Send Mail Transfer Protocol) 43 whois 79 Finger 80 HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) 110 POP3 (Post Office Protocol, version 3) 115 SFTP (Secure File Transfer Protocol) 119 NNTP (Network New Transfer Protocol) 123 NTP (Network Time Protocol) 137 NetBIOS-ns 138 NetBIOS-dgm 139 NetBIOS 143 IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) 161 SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) 194 IRC (Internet Relay Chat) 220 IMAP3 (Internet Message Access Protocol 3) 389 LDAP (Lightweight Directory Access Protocol) 443 SSL (Secure Socket Layer) 445 SMB (NetBIOS over TCP) 666 Doom 993 SIMAP (Secure Internet Message Access Protocol) 995 SPOP (Secure Post Office Protocol) 1352 Lotus Notes 1433 Microsoft SQL Server 1494 Citrix ICA Protocol 1521 Oracle SQL 1604 Citrix ICA / Microsoft Terminal Server 2049 NFS (Network File System) 3306 mySQL 5010 Yahoo! Messenger 5190 AOL Instant Messenger 5632 PCAnywhere 5800 VNC 5900 VNC 6000 X Windowing System 6699 Napster 6776 SubSeven (Trojan - security risk!) 7070 RealServer / QuickTime 7778 Unreal 8080 HTTP 26000 Quake 27010 Half-Life 27960 Quake III

Forgive my responce. As someone who represents a company I work with a fine line. It wouldn't take much for my postings to start edging into the realm of spam. It tends to annoy me when I see others cross that line. My apology was a bit out of line with the offense. However, please just ask questions like that in just one forum, rather then more then one. I assure you, if someone has a relavent reply they will reply to it.

Stupid astroturfing.

K, a couple of things that might work. If you can change the ports to something else, you can use a service like no-ip.com to do a port redirect. If the manufactures software can deal with that then you should be golden.

The consumer grade stuff isn't going to do it, not well and not cheaply. Is the software using some sort of webserver?

Apparently you can bridge them using just themselves. I'm still researching it but the product specs point to multipoint bridging and setting them up as repeters.

From what I've been reading it looks like the other CPU's would be alright, just not the VIA based chipsets. But the one capture card per machine is a limitation of the PCI bus.

Skeptical of the speed requirement or the Intel requirement?

Not at this time.

We generally compare pretty well. They have a few more minor features, we have a better interface and support. Our audio is limited to the number of sound cards presant, we're working to improve that.

I sent you the prices for the v240, and I can send the rest via e-mail.

10:45 Central time.

Time for a new question. Camera lens. Tell me if I'm even in the ball park with these statements. 1. The larger the milimeter the lens, the further I can see? 2. The 1/3 1/2 2/3 should match the size of the CCD, but if I do a larger lens with a smaller CCD I get a wider view?

Any service pack is going to annoy someone...and plugging some of the holes that dangerous software use is well worth the annoyance of those who write software that are legitmate uses of it.

The celeron is the same basic chip as a P4 but with certain features removed. Celeron's do not support hyperthreading. Celerons also have half the front side cache of a normal P4. The front side cache is the ram that is built onto the chip and it makes a huge performance boost or hit depending on the amount. It's a cheaper chip becuase of this, and it does run a bit cooler, but not so much that it affects very much. We use them for the DVR-60/8 that we build. It's an 8 camera system with 60fps max. Set up that way it doesn't redline the system but you won't be doing more then eight cameras. There is some confusion about the naming of intel chips so let me try to clear this up a little. P4 is a family of chips. Celerons are a subfamily within the P4 family. Extreme Editions are also a subfamily within the P4 family. So you say it like this to ID the chip: P4 Celeron 2.4 P4 3.2 P4 Extreme Edition 3.8 The extreme edition chips have twice the front side chache and it shows in thier performance. But it also shows in the cost. Depending on your supplier, your going to pay between 1.3 to 2.5 times the cost of a compartive genric P4.

The major problems with Dell come in thier consumer grade stuff. The Dimensions do tend to have the lowest grade parts, but the major problem is how they do windows. They load everything and the kitchen sink on it and load all of it at start up. Maxing out the resources with flaky software is a recipe for disaster. The Dell server class stuff is generally more reliable since the mobo's they are using are clones of the intel referance boards. They also come without windows. We load windows in our office, and our software. The only things we install is our software, the hardware drivers and an OEM copy of windows. No extra crap. But nothing requires you to use our cards and software in a Dell.

TCP/UDP are packet protocols. Depending on what they are used for determines the protocols.

Eh, Open Office, save as HTML and then rename it .doc....translates almost perfectly every time for me.

I don't recall the Netgear set up off the top of my head but you'll have to add the port to the rules listed there. All of the ports they list are commanly used ones.

I'd wire it. Unless there is a really compling reason the wireless solution would be a little expensive. Those distances are a little short for any real signal loss in either method. The powering wouldn't be a issue since you'd power it from the same centeral source as the cameras, or the same wall outlet area. Probley a central would be easier since you can wire it with the Rg-59.