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Correction: My Dahua hybrid DVR is equivalent to this one for $1699: http://www.dvrsystems.net/dahua-d-h1604-16-channel-standalone-hybrid-security-dvr-recorder.html Still a good deal and the equipment arrived in good condition compared to what I could have purchased - the salesman gave me no information or specifications. His sales strategy might have worked for more gullible people with money to blow but I'm on a budget. Anyone have an opinion about http://ipvm.com/ pro membership for training videos? They are the only reliable source of training I have found. Don't know what the membership will buy me.

Thanks for the posts. Let me give it a try.

Is JVSG's IP Video System Design Tool Pro worth $299? Is there anything cheaper? Thanks. URL: http://www.jvsg.com/ip-video-system-design-tool/

Can power splitters like the one mentioned above, 48V to 12V type, work with high power PoE, 802.3at that puts out up to 30W at the switch? Switch is a ZyXEL 8-Port Layer 2 Managed Gigabit PoE Switch (GS2200-8HP).

Thanks for the replies to my previous posts.

I bought a ZyXEL 8-Port Layer 2 Managed Gigabit PoE Switch (GS2200-8HP) that has four ports with 180 W of total budget power to port 1-4 with 30W each and to 5-8 with 15.4W each. My question is whether I can use the high power ports for any of the cameras and can I use the IR cameras on the 15.4W ports if I use a PoE splitter. I don't know much about electrical specifications - the issue is how to use the DVR, managed PoE switch, analog cameras, network cameras and come up with some kind of system that will work on a wooded lot to detect trespassers and vandals. Will a 12V PoE Splitter work with the ports on the ZyXEL switch to power analog and network cameras? These are the cameras: 1. IR bullet cameras (4) can use: a. 12V DC b. 24V AC (±10%) c. With max current of 850mA (LED on) 2. Dahua ¼” IP 2MP cameras (3) can use: a. 12V DC b. 24V AC c. PoE d. Power consumption is 10W 3. Dahua 1.3MP IP PTZ Dome Camera (1) - PTZ-HD6980 - Can use 24V AC/3A ±10% - Power consumption: 12W or 30W (with IR on) My DVR is a Dahua hybrid: http://www.dvrsystems.net/dahua-d-h1604-16-channel-standalone-hybrid-security-dvr-recorder.html Here are links to the images that would not paste into this window: http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/DahuaHybridDVR_zps5634f7e2.png http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/BalunSpecDiagram_zps3b3ea55d.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/ZyXELManagedPoESwitch__zps1509e317.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/DahuaHybridDVR.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/Dahuabulletcamera.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/IRCameraSpecs_Page_1_.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/IRCameraSpecs_Page_2_.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/Dahua2MPNetworkCamerap1_zps029c68c5.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/Dahua2MPNetworkCamerap2_zps373d57a3.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/Dahua2MPNetworkCamerap3_zps78bcbf37.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/StandardPoEparameters_zpse1a9903a.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/Dahua13MPNetworkPTZDomeCamerap1_zpsa36937a3.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/Dahua13MPNetworkPTZDomeCamerap2_zps49bde038.jpg http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz347/guidecca2/Dahua13MPNetworkPTZDomeCamerap3_zps5bf2b188.jpg Any help in connecting these parts would be appreciated. I seriously do not want to burn anything using the wrong power or port. Thank you in advance.

I know where you can get some shielded CAT5e direct burial with no goo to mess with for $117 per 1000'. Its onliine at Amazon.

Will this shielded CAT5e: Cable Wholesale CAT5E, CMXT Outdoor / Direct Burial, Waterproof Tape, 350MHz, Solid, 24 AWG, Black, 1000 ft, Spool have any negative affect on a 300' run to either a IR or IP bullet camera? Someone mentioned that STP CAT5e changes impedence and recommended UTP CAT5e cable. Thanks.

Graphic CCTV Lens Calculator is embedded on several security camera sites other than Cam-Tech. Check this to find a site that is still posting the free software: http://www.software4cctv.co.uk/Download1.htm

I bought this from Amazon for $117 + shipping: Cable Wholesale CAT5E, CMXT Outdoor / Direct Burial, Waterproof Tape, 350MHz, Solid, 24 AWG, Black, 1000 ft, Spool i don't know how good it is or how long it will last above or underground. Maybe someone knows. It doesn't have the goo of the other underground ethernet cable. It is shielded so hopefully the high-power lines behind my house won't affect it above ground.

I hope to control the IP PTZ-HD6980/6981 from the hybrid DVR but the PTZ uses 48V AC 3A and I'm not sure how to power it or what connector to use for control. Could it be controlled by the managed PoE switch? Could it be run in analog mode (Analog Video Output BNC (1.0Vp-p, 75O), NTSC) until I get it networked? Camera & Video 1/3" 1.3Megapixel SONY Progressive Scan CCD Powerful 18x optical zoom and 12x digital zoom H.264 & Dual-stream video encoding and JPEG image capture 15fps @1.3M (1280×960) & 30fps @720P resolution Day/Night(ICR), Auto iris, Auto focus, AWB, BLC Up to 24 privacy masking areas Built-in Web server, NVR, CMS (PSS/DSS) & DMSS Dome Drive Max 240 °/s pan speed, 360° continuous pan rotation & auto flip with no blind spot monitor Up to 255 preset, 5 auto scan, 8 tour, 5 pattern Auto recognition of general protocols such as DH-SD, Pelco-P/D, and etc Speed setup according to the focal distance, auto rotation speed adjust in accordance with the lens zoom rate Auto restore to previous PTZ and lens status after power failure Time Task: Auto activation of Preset/Scan/Tour/Pattern by preset-time Idle Motion: Call preset/tour and etc operations after idle for the specified time (including the idle status after the system boots up) OSD and operation prompts of various languages Build-in 7/2 channel alarm input/output Intelligent 3D positioning function IP66 all-environments protection, 4000V thunder-proof Easy installation with user-friendly designs IR LED The longest distance of the build-in IR LED is over 300ft Specifications: Model PTZ-HD690/6081 Camera Image Sensor 1/3" 1.3 Megapixel Progressive Scan CCD Effective Pixels 1296 (H) x 966 (V) Lens 18x Optical Zoom f=4.5mm(Wide) ~ 81mm(Tele), F1.6 ~ F2.7 Digital Zoom 12x Horizontal Viewing Angle 51.6°(Wide) ~ 3.1°(Tele) Min. Object Distance 10mm(Wide) ~ 1000mm(Tele) Minimum Illumination 0.1 Lux / F1.6 (Color), 0.01 Lux / F1.6 (B/W), 0 Lux (IR On) Electronic Shutter 1/4~1/10000s, 20 Level White Balance Auto/ATW/Indoor/Outdoor/Manual BLC On/Off Day/Night Auto (ICR) / Color / B/W S/N Ratio More than 50dB Privacy Masking On/Off (up to 24 privacy masking areas) Analog Video Output BNC (1.0Vp-p, 75O), NTSC Video & Audio Video Compression H.264 / MPEG4 Image Resolution 1.3M(1280×960) / 720P(1280×720) / D1(704×480) / CIF(352×240) / QCIF(176×128) Encoding Speed Main Stream: 1.3M(1~15fps), /720P/D1(1~30fps) Extra Stream: D1/CIF/QCIF (1~30fps) Bit Rate 32Kbps~8Mbps Audio Compression G.711a(32Kbps) / AMR(10.2Kbps) Audio Mode Off / Audio Input / Audio Output Dome Drive Pan/Tilt Range Horizontal: 0°~360° Non-stop, Vertical: -2°~182° (Auto Flip) Manual Control Speed Horizontal: 0.1°~160°/s, Vertical: 0.1°~120°/s Preset Speed Horizontal: 240°/s, Vertical: 200°/s Preset Point 255 PTZ Mode 5 Auto Pattern, 8 Auto Tour, 5 Auto Scan 3D Intelligent Positioning Support Speed Setup Smart Speed Adjustment In Proportion to Depth of Zoom Info Display Time, Location, Dome Title, Dome Coordinates, Temperature, Alarm, etc. Power-Up Action Auto Recovery to Previous PTZ and Lens Status After Power Failure Idle Motion Activation of Preset/Scan/Tour/Pattern if No-Action in a Specified Time Period Time Task Auto Activation of Preset/Scan/Tour/Pattern by Preset Time Alarm 7/2 Alarm Input/Output, Triggering Preset/Tour/Pattern/Scan/Alarm Output Protocol DH-SD, Pelco P/D, Auto Recognition of General Protocols IR LED Smart IR Adjustment In Proportion to Depth of Zoom Network Ethernet RJ-45 Port (10/100Base-T) Network Functions HTTP, TCP/IP, ICMP, RTSP, RTP, UDP, SMTP, NTP, DHCP, DNS, IP Filter, PPPOE, DDNS, FTP, Alarm Server Max Remote Users 20 Users Simultaneously Processor TI DaVinci Series DSP Operating System Embedded LINUX Resource Simultaneous remote monitoring, local recording and remote operation Remote Operation Monitor, PTZ control, Voice Intercom, System setting, Playback, File download, Log information, Maintenance & Upgrade Local Recording SD/SDHC, Max 32GB User Interface WEB, CMS(DSS/PSS), DMSS, NVR General Power Supply AC 24V / 3A (±10%) Power Consumption 12W/30W (IR LED On) Working Temperature -20 ~ 60°C (-4 ~ 140°F) Working Humidity < 90% Protection Level IP66, 4000V Thunder, Surge and Wave Protection Dimension 13.86"× ?9.06" (H×D) Weight 15.43 lbs

If I bought the TP-Link PoE splitter for $11 each cost would not be excessive. I will probably have some extra parts laying around here soon. I think the whole process is complicated. If Tom wanted to explain things understanding would have been communicated. Define spam. There are a thousand unanswered posts onsite so the site admin has problems. Cameras and security is a lucrative business for installers, distributers, and integrators - well known now. I'm sticking with the PoE switch so that I can learn something about switches. I'll take a trip down to Norfolk Wire and maybe they can solve the powe and data connector dilemna. The PTZ camera will need 24V AC and a data cable to the switch as far as I know. Its not the first PTZ camera. At least it is IP. You have been a great help. I'll take a look at the manual you sent on it to find out. Thanks.

The prices are right on the two items. I like this store: http://www.cctvsecuritypros.com/cables--connections--tools.html What did you think of the TP-Link L-PoE10R PoE Splitter to use with the PoE switch to manage the cameras?

Here are the connectors for the IR camera(s). I think the extra cable is for calibration but I'm not sure.

Its an analog IR camera. Can you point me to a pigtail. What is the green connector for? What kind of power supply are you thinking of? Can you pick out a decent balun setup on Amazon for me ? Thanks.

The TP-Link L-PoE10R PoE Splitter basically has a CAT5 RJ45 with a male DC plug to plug into the camera. I don't think it needs an injector. The Dahua SB-620SID240 IR Bullet Camera haa a gold BNC and a green connector. What kind of cable connects to the gold cable and the green connector. Does it support both the splitter and a balun? Can you point me in the direction of whatever pigtail should connect to this one BNC and the green connector? I have to buy four of them and don't want to make a big mistake. The IP cameras, hybrid DVR, and the PoE switch are still in China. The splitter is about $12 on Amazon and here are the specs: http://www.tp-link.com/us/products/details/?model=TL-POE10R#spec. Thanks a lot for your help.

It wasn't that difficult to explain. I'm surprised his head isn't fried. A PoE switch supplies 48V DC and 15.4V DC per port. You can plug the camera into the PoE switch if the camera directions power option is PoE. Do not use a PoE switch for an IR analog camera where power requirements are 12V DC or 24V AC with maximum current at 850mA. Isn't this right? Comments?

.22 cal handgun, subsonic ammo, black electrical tape, duct tape, small hose clamp, two liter Pepsi bottle. The guys at the local gun shop know all about it. Seriously, there is a site on the web that sells devices to jam wireless. Can't find it in my favorites right now but it is "spy-something."

I would tell you or tell you where to find the information if I knew anything myself.

Kawboy 12R, Would one of these PoE kits would work for the four IR bullet cameras: http://www.airlive.com/product/category/Power-over-Ethernet#POE-Accessory? Here is a list of the power requirements for the eight cameras: 1. IR bullet cameras (4) can use: a. 12V DC b. 24V AC (±10%) c. With max current of 850mA (LED on) 2. At the camera: a. Video output is 1.0v p-p (sync. Negative, termination 75Ω) b. Synch: (1) Internal with 12V DC (2) L/L: Phase has selectable setting with 24V AC 1. Dahua ¼” IP 2MP cameras (3) can use: a. 12V DC b. 24V AC c. PoE d. Power consumption is 10W 2. Audio: - analog output: 1ch, (1.0V p-p, 75Ω) - audio input: 1ch, 3.5mm jack LINE in - audio output: 1ch, 3.5mm jack speaker out - bidirectional: same as “audio in” 3. Ethernet network - RJ45 (10/100 Base-T) 4. Dahua 1.3MP IP PTZ Dome Camera (1) - PTZ-HD6980 (vendor changed camera from CCD to CMOS sensor – not sure what effect that will have) - Can use 24V AC/3A ±10% - Power consumption: 12W or 30W (with IR on) - Ethernet network: RJ45 port (10/100 Base-T) - Analog video output: BNC (1.0V p-p, 75Ω NTSC) 1. Dahua 16ch full D1 hybrid w/16ch IPC support DVR - Dahua EH-16RTHD-1T/2T - Power consumption: 40W - Inputs: - Video to analog 16ch BNC (1.0V p-p, 75Ω - Loop output: 16ch - Audio: - Input: 16ch, BNC (200-2800mV), 30K Ω - Output: 1ch, BNC (200-3000mV), 5K Ω - Bidirectional talk: - 1ch input BNC (200-2800mV, 30K Ω) / 1ch output BNC (200-3000mV, 5KΩ) 1. ZBT 16-port gigabit manageable ethernet switch - ZBT-PSE-GS1016M - 16 RJ46 with PoE on all ports - IEEE802.3af standard / Max 15.4W per port - Power consumption max: 250W Thanks for the manual for the DVR. I haven’t had time to read it yet. I’m working on learning the power requirements. It looks like all my cameras will take 24V AC. Do I need the switch? The PTZ camera only takes 24V AC/3A. Only the three IP cameras will take PoE. Would it be possible to use PoE kits for the four Dahua IR bullet cameras like the ones here that convert 48V DC to 12V DC: http://www.airlive.com/product/category/Power-over-Ethernet#POE-Accessory ? Not sure how to power the the PTZ camera. Looks like it requires AC power. I can probably cancel the switch order if that is an option. The IP cameras and DVR are on the way here. I have the four IR bullet cameras. For the 4 IR analog cameras. Do I use both a TP-Link L-PoE10R Poe Splitter and a 2A 12V regulated wall wart with a barrel connector and a four way power splitter? If so how does it mount on the camera? How are the power/video/audio pigtail plugged in?

Kawboy 12R, Well I picked up a PoE switch. I was looking at the specifications and ran across this--> PoE Specification: 48V DC, Max. 15.4Watt per port AND PIN definition: 4/5(+), 7/8(-). First, should there be another number in there like 1.5 or is it kosher? Second, are the PINS the CAT5 wires that connect to the cameras to power them? If so, is polarity important? Sounds like a dumb question but when you are in the dark even a match helps. Here is the PoE switch I bought: http://www.zbtlink.com/product_show.asp?ps_id=130&p_id=587. It might be overkill but it should have some power. It is a managed switch so if the cameras decide to shut down I can control them from the switch. That is enough fun for one day. Now the waiting. Still have to find: 1. Water-proof junction boxes - what kind of junction boxes would work next to the cameras? 2. PVC pipe, 3. baluns - how do you determine what specs to look for? 4. CAT5 or burial-grade CAT5, 5. RJ45 connectors (I have the crimper), 6. I was going to ask you about the power supply. Is it one of those panel boxes (like a breaker box) or are you talking about an UPS to plug the PoE switch into? 7. Not sure what splitters are or which ones to buy. 8. Do I need those motion detection devices so the cameras don't alert every time a leaf blows by? 7. I've got a Moultrie game camera but it is useless - I would send it back to them if I could. You said: Is the PoE switch going to hook up to all of the cables and then connect to the DVR from the gigabyte port on the switch? Do ALL of the cameras get power from the CAT5 from the switch? Thanks for the help.

Did you find one yet? I bought direct from Lin Vision in China. $728 + DHL shipping + 5% to Alibaba.com. Model is Dahua DVR-9116HFI-H16 which is identical to this one: http://www.dvrsystems.net/watchnet-eh-rtd1-16-channel-stand-alone-dvr-system.pdf for $2,799.00. Andy Chen is the rep for Lin Vision and can connect via Skype at andy.linovision. Some people will tell you to buy a better DVR/NVR but maybe they have the money.

Tom, Just don't know which unit would run this set of cameras (above). The specs are misleading and maybe the vendor doesn't know. The top of the page says, "4/8/16 Channel Full-D1 & 4 Channel 1080P Hybrid DVR". Here is the .pdf: http://www.dvrsystems.net/watchnet-eh-rtd1-16-channel-stand-alone-dvr-system.pdf What to do now? Ordered four IR cameras, received. Ordered three 2.0MP bullet cameras, one 1.3MP PTZ camera, and one hybrid DVR. Send the IR cameras back? Try to change DVR and buy an IP friendly DVR - which one? Thanks for helping. Much appreciated. " title="Applause" /> Having said that, I don't understand specifics of what you are saying. You are saying the DVR can't handle four IP cameras except in D1. I thought IP cameras could be configured to record in different resolutions. Can this DVR control all the cameras? Will the system shutdown because the IP cameras are using too much bandwidth. Will the system work? Thanks.

Kawboy 12R, Will the hybrid DVR I purchased record 1080P from four megapixal cameras or do I need a different DVR? I was just informed by the vendor that the hybrid DVR will record the three 2MP cameras at 1080P and to just plug them into a power strip. Does that make sense?

Tomcctv, When I read the DVR specs "16 CH Supports 16 IP Cameras: 16@D1, 8@720P, 4@1080P," I assumed that four of the cameras could record in either 720P or 1080P. Why would they mention 720P or 1080P if the input was recorded at a lower resolution? Here is the equivalent DVR: http://www.dvrsystems.net/Hybrid_Standalone_DVRs-EH_Series_Network_Video_Recorder_16_Analog_16_IP.html. It may be too late to cancel this order. Can you recommend a hybrid DVR that would utilize the cameras I bought or point me in the right direction? What will work in a situation like this (with an ignorant person)? Also, wonder if the analog cameras would be best located farther back in the woods and the IP cameras located closer to the house - or does it matter? Are night vision IR infrared illuminator lights necessary and if so how many? Thanks. Thanks greatly for your help.