SunnyKim

Don't mention it. It's his job to help you out as far as IP cameras in North America are concerned.

I dropped the price gap, say to U$500 vs U$150, fast enough. Because I did not want you to go Mad. Please do not name and bash those countries, in any sense. I know you are also earning breads on promoting those products from those countries.

How about U$500 vs U$150?

Low resolution analog is not smart, its stupid, very stupid. Again. IP is plug and play also, what part of that dont you understand? All you need is a POE NVR..match NVR to cameras. Easy peasy....maybe its too difficult for you...I know.. The video clip can not justify U$1000 vs U$100. Try to be smart, please.

Be Simple & Smart, Boogieman. I never recommended CRT which is hard to find and more expensive. Tape recorders are the same. Please do not get me wrong.

No matter what. Cheap and Simple that drives Analog over IP.

Go get the analog system for Plug & Play. It has been there all the way. The IP systems do not understand Plug & Play.

Source, please. I find it very difficult to believe a proprietary Analog HD technology with only a relatively few small manufacturers and VARs producing and selling products has overtaken market share from Dahua and Hikvision on their home turf. Survtech, the claim might be right. I am also monitoring the market carefully. Note that AHD did make some success in Korea. The AHD receiver chip set can also capture the conventional NTSC or PAL signal automatically. Therefore, its DVR could be cheaper than TVI's or CVI's, which probably need extra decoding(NTSC,PAL) chip set. China manufactueres are very sensitive penny-wise.

You need a DVR. I do not know there are DVR-boxes that support both TVI cameras and CVI cameras. You have to search those on the internet. As far as I know, TVI is supported by Hikvision and CVI is supported by Daihua. These two do not compromise each other. The DVR is supposed to generate compressed bit stream files for video data from each camera. The compressed bit stream files, then, are to be strored to HDD or can be sent to NVR.

Does it not ...... Apart from bad cable .... Think you will find it does .... Let's take stutter .... What is the first thing you do .... Lower the settings .... Why ... Less data to compress But if you think there is only 1 H264 out there There is bad and there is good Tom, I can not exactly follow what you are trying to say. Stutter may be coming from Network Delay or Jitter. No direct relation to H.264 standard itself. By dropping frames or de-grading video quality to be recorded, and reducing bit rates as a result, they can get out of conjestion. If I add one more, the hard-ware (chip set) can be overloaded with more larger image size or more frames than originally designed processing limit.

Living on Chinese Companies could be tough. How many times I told you to go & get a free vaccum at Cosco?

Likewise...though im surprised that your failed to promote your companies junk D1 products as an alternative to 3mp HD. What happened they stop paying you commission to peddle your junk to unsuspecting users as "advice"? Nobody sells a junk, if staying on business more than 20 years. Hoping that you make ends meet, enough commisions from 4MP Chinese cameras.

Inserting my comments,

You did pop up, never failing my expectation, boogieman. LoL

Before making final decision, you better wait for Boogieman, dancing around in this forum. He may recomend you his 4MP and NVR, for sure.

Sorry to say that I can not agree to your opinion quoted above. Most parts are totally unfounded. You are teaching that to run the business is simply bashing old technology, and praising the new technology. Where did I bash old technology ??. .... You should of understood it as there are many forms of H264 some are good soon are bad Bad being what you have on budget recorders or cheap IPcameras Ghosting:Stutter: Missing Frames are in no way related to H.264 Standard. Any proof or theory. H.265 Genuine: Most of not genuine scientists keep working the same agenda in different mask/format/face till they get retired. One Improvement over H.264 is that H.265 can allow a kind of paraell processing when dealing with a very large image, say 4K or larger. Large sized image should be processed within a given time, say 30msec. CPU clock should get higher or the image can be partitioned small enough for multiples of CPUS in a lower clock speed. I mean that the syntax allows such partioning. This is no related to any compression efficiency. H.265 has gone for the arithmetic coding whose efficiency is quite dependent on the video stats. Therefore, I do not buy much of their claims in improved compression effciency. In surveillance industry, we are not going to use all kinds of variants that it offers in order to avoid Non-compatibility, and to minimize CPU processing and Heat. But the compatibility issues would be repeatedly brought on, in much longer period than cases of H.264, because some companies are trying to monopolize the market by creating Non Compatibility between NVRs and Cameras. They keep putting the customers into their island. To make No inter-operable is the Ultimate Goal for them or every businessman.

Sorry to say that I can not agree to your opinion quoted above. Most parts are totally unfounded. You are teaching that to run the business is simply bashing old technology, and praising the new technology.

This camera is fixed lens..nothing moves unless you get on a ladder and move it. if you get the 2.8mm lens and run it in 1080p (not 3mp) you will get about 100 degrees of horizontal view. The new hikvision 4mp should be a bit wider viewing angle...plus they have improved night and low light vision. Shame on you, boogieman. You keep promoting Hikvision 4MP, all over threads in the forum. Now I come to understand what you are selling for a piece of bread. That's a shame.

There are cheaper 1080p options out there...100 dollars a camera. 720p, for 60....still much better than junk D1. If by "high end" you mean under 200 dollars for an NVR...then you have a serious problem. Stop suggesting JUNK D1 resolution. I can get a CRT monitor or TV for free, doesnt mean I recommend folks for buy those over a flat screen hd tv. Stop peddling your useless junk to unsuspecting members. All they need to do is go to youtube and look at D1 vs 1080p... I will say this again despite your insistence otherwise. ANALOG should NEVER be an option for a new home install in 2015, NEVER. Saving 200 dollars is penny wise, pound foolish (look that one up in your translator). Also keep in mind that the installation cost can be much cheaper for IP since the cameras do not have to be home run. Heck, the user doesnt even need an NVR depending on the amount of storage required it can be done by the camera with an SD card slot. Any suggestion otherwise by you is simply an attempt to sell your company's junk. Please go focus on making some good IP cameras. Can you please list the features that a good IP camera must have? Any features that Hikvision should add or be missing? If you can, you are to be re-evaluated.

How do you like if I quote " A knife for a bull can be too much for killing a chicken" ? Please let me know!!. Many comers in this forum are interested in DIY for Home or Small Store Applications. DIY could be fun, challenging, exciting, and saving money. Cheap & Rugged Analog system should be one of their options, I believe. I mean 4MP cameras with High End NVR can be too much. Please do not blame the english translator. Better blame your logic or a hardware above your neck.

Stop booging around. I am repeating for your understanding, boogieman. No cannon is needed for killing roaches at home.

This boogieman seems to believe Hikvision is the High Tech American Company. That's funny, once promoting Hik's 3MP, now 4MP camera. This guy does not understand why 90% of Las Vegas is still in analog system. He believes that they do not have money and they are not smart enough to understand how IP camera works. In our terms, a dumb frog at the bottom of a well does not see the world outside.

There are some crazy guys, in this forum, who keep promoting HiEnd ones. 4MP without 4MP monitors. What's use? What's use for your 1080P(2MP) TV or monitor? You may get troubled with tech support issues, frame rate drop and compatibility issues from the limit of NVR processing power. What I think a good one for home application is analog system. It's cheap and simple. Just Plug and Go. Analog Camera: around U$20 each, and Stand alone DVR (for 4 Ch, each WD1 recording) around U$40, online market. You have to add a monitor and HDD. That's all for beginner and you can get help easily around your neighbor.

I thought this guy knows something, but learned that he knew nothing but 4 mp camera from Hikvision. Go get a brand new vaccum at Cosco.

Zr1, mostly correct. Please allow me to add. IP camera compresses digital video data before sending; Lossy compression, not recovered 100 % to the original video, not as a zipped file of 100% reproduction. IP camera goes for mostly 100 to 1 compression ratio, thus a slight degradation of video quality, unavoidable. In picture quality-wise, HD-SDI tops all over, IP, HD TVI, CVI, AHD, and others. Because HD-SDI sends/receives the raw video digital data, uncompressed. This one was originally invented for studio quality in broadcasting stations, but being used for CCTV industry as well, though expensive. HD TVI /CVI/AHD employs a kind of amplitude modulation, like AM radio, thus it is not 100 percent to reproduce the quality as exactly as the video data captured. You can expect a gradual degradation, of course, but robust not to lose a single video frame, once synchronized. But IP Camera has a good chance to lose 2~3 seconds of video frames, any time unexpectedly, just as you experience when playing internet or smart-phones. Though limited to 80 meter ~ 100 meter or so, HD-SDI/TVI/CVI/AHD are to be limited in the cable length and cable quality, because they have to send much larger data in much higher rate, compared to IP cameras. But these do not have a time-lag (latency), good for a spot monitoring, as observed, not possible, in IP Camera.