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Shouldnt be much different. Can you get the activeX, or download the Cab file and get it from that?

What do you guys think of NVTs multi channel recievers/trancievers and their claims of ground loop isolation etc.? I guess I never really looked to NVT for passive to passive baluns. So is their other gear any good in the field? Its expensive for certain.

I havent used 8.4 so cant say, but dont see why they would take it out after all this time, its a main feature they have had for years now, most DVRs have this feature even the cheap stand alones. They may have renamed the menu item though.

They must follow the haitian building codes in Florida, cause sure as heck not down here. When a hurricane comes through here, mostly just utilities damage, trees down, meanwhile Florida gets flattened. But they are correct, we dont get earthquakes here, we dont get blizzards either. Even if we did, Hurricane every 2 years here, earthquake every 10,000 years. Haiti builds with mud and clay, these here are concrete steel reinforced, all interior walls brick also.. Ive been through many hurricanes here, worst we have to worry about is tree falling on the roof. oh yeah and no power for a month but we used to that If we got an earthquake? We would have some damage surely .. but nothing like Haiti. Dont get me wrong, we have some shanty towns around here that get flattened even in the most basic hurricane but there are only a small number of those, and they are mostly all illegal haitians living in the bush. Those places dont even have electricity and the ones that do run a power cord from some other place to power up all their stuff .. hence the reason one of the shanty towns just had a fire and burnt to the ground.

Need an enclosure for them outside.

Welcome back .. remember the good ole days .. I was alot younger then

BTW I do give them an option on the 4 channel fused box though .. and explain the general benefits - 1 goes the rest are still up (unless the whole box goes), more amps, neater (connection inside a box) .. but most dont care. Heck Im even so blunt I tell them the cameras are cheap rubbish but give them a picture for next to nothing ... and ofcourse show them the CNBs as an option ... again most dont seem to care LOL.

No .. that I see as a real hazzard (in my opinion) .. like what 10ams or more in one of those boxes.. computer power supplies arent something to play with, now those I HAVE seen catch fire before! But its up to him, if it catches fire its in his house and he hooked it up so only him to blame

Sorry... I missed your point and probably what you're trying to say... However, short of the obvious and notorious retarded installer... I don't really see how an "installation" has ANY affect on the design and electronic theory behind using a fused power supply box vs hardwiring everything directly to one big, unprotected wall wart.... Perhaps Ive never used a "wall wart". Every plug in adapter ive used IS protected to an extent, where when it DOES get hit, it stops right there. With a brown out even the fused box is not safe anyway. Hence the use of a high voltage regulator, without it NOTHING is safe. Once again, we are plugging everything into a high voltage regulator - without that we would be changing the entire distributed box every other day as well, not to mention the DVR or at the least the hard drive.

No need to, this isnt a tourism forum. I only responded with facts. We DO have alot of problems though, but that has nothing to do with ME using a 1.5ma power supply. This isnt the Dominican Republic. I agree safety first always, but that has nothing to do with using a plug in adapter versus a cheap distributed box - they both have either a fuse or a PTC or something - but that doesnt mean the cameras wont get damaged, and hence the use of a high voltage regulator - most people down here have those already especially businesses. There are other reasons to use a good distributed box though, but when you weigh the chance of getting jobs to pay for food, or not getting the jobs, especially if its only a couple low resolution cheap chinese cameras (as are most OEM in the US), then its not a difficult decision. Instead of a 500GB HDD they get a 320GB HDD, its $40 cheaper. Instead of the DVR with HDMI and Alarm I/O, they get one without that, $40 cheaper, and one of the biggest whoppers instead of a $100 box they get a $15 adapter - if in some rare instance a brown out does get through the VR then its only $15 to replace. Its simple really as it all adds up (especially when adding 45% duty to some of that) - talking about budget clients that cant even afford the cheapest thing you throw at them to begin with, and lets face it CCTV is not a necessity. For 10 years Ive done it "your" way using the most expensive gear I could get my hands on, made in USA or Canada (least they claim), using the biggest baddest distributed isolated fused power supplies from Altronix, didnt make money cause you know time as customs duty is added to all that its double the price landed and even more for the client and still they are just OKAY products that still go bad ... time to make money. If it means doing 1000 cheap jobs and work for peanuts then so be it, all those peanuts add up - and yes they will still be installed PROPERLY and SAFELY.

I feel lucky... we get VERY good pricing on fused/ ptc power supplies... To NOT use them is just silly... But we also have building codes to worry about. It's not just a safety deal, it's also a liability. Totally different way of thinking vs slapping up Chinese gear on to a poorly constructed pile of cinder blocks that may or may not last the next hurricane... At least that's what I gather by vacations to and reading your posts about the Caribbean.... I could be wrong? lol Yes you are wrong. First of all a vast majority of homes here in the Bahamas will outlast most homes in the US, they are not just cinder blocks, they are built WAY beyond ANY hurricane proof regulations in the US. When it comes to building for Hurricane Winds, we "blow" you guys away in that regard. When Americans come down here to work illegally they are lost when they come up against having to work in one of these homes, its not a walk in the park like they are used to. We do have building codes here but with or without them enforced or not that does not stop the liability. There is nothing UNSAFE about the way one can use a 1.5amp Regulated Power Supply to power 4x200ma cameras, no more unsafe than some big metal box with an even more dangerous larger power supply. IN fact while speaking of Chinese gear, many of the Fused and especially PTC power supplies come from china, not to mention 99% of the other electronics in a person's home. In fact most of the rebadged electronics and computer gear in the US come from China or near there. And in addition to all that, we protect ALL our equipment with high voltage regulators. Ofcourse like in the US there are those that dont and or hook up something anyway they like - building codes or not, in the US there are even more fire hazzards being installed every day than we could ever match. Also you might want to check the CCTV DVR kits that are sold all over America in those big liable retail stores because in most cases they also come with just a single plug in power supply for 4 cameras. As for silly .. $15, $100, $15 compared to $100 .. single plug, Big Metal Box, single plug compared to Big Metal Box - when both properly installed just as safe - though either without a high voltage regular are not protected. I mean I can see if you were to compare it to say Altronix although that is pricey, but sounds like the cheap distributed power supplies you are talking about .. also come from china PS. The Bahamas is not in the Caribbean.

I tried to run the Infrared from an EX82 separately without the heatsink .. it worked .. but it got too hot to touch the metal peice the LEDs were attached to.

there is a big fat menu item that should stick out .. "auto reboot setup" or maybe "system reboot" in newer versions

thats their crappiest IR though, used it once just on a small front door area, worked fine, but wouldnt use it anywhere else. The EX26LED on the other hand, now that thing puts out light, so much light that I had to turn the light level down. And its powered along side the camera.

i think thats around 1amp.. dont recall exactly.

Whats this "backbox"?

another thing that may be of interest. If you can get away without using a vandal dome .. the BBM-24F which is the box camera version of the VCM-24VF is inexpensive and also has the cat5 connection so you can change settings remotely. This saves ALOT of time when setting it up (not focus), especially if its not right outside your house. Also with the box camera you can then get a much better lens to get rid of that slight blur on the edges when set to wide angle view- eg. F:1.0 Aspherical IR corrected lens from Tamron .. so it not only will see more in low light than the dome which has the F:1.4 lens, it will also have a better overall image due to the type of lens being aspherical. Just theoretical right now As I am ordering some now but havent tried them yet, price is low also, can just use a Samsung Housing which is half the cost of the Pelcos and others.

One client I went to ... they had some cheap power supplies ... 1 for each camera .. I went back 3 times to change them .. each time I quoted them on a fused box AND a voltage regulator .. they only had a surge strip and an OLD apc UPS with no AVR. After the 3rd time and they still wouldnt listen .. told them call someone else .. wasnt even COD .. they were that cheap. That said Ive had a 2A plug in adapter for my cameras for a few years now in a socket at the top of the wall without a surge protector or voltage regulator and it never got hit [yet] .. luck perhaps We use them on the cheap 4 channel kits also, saves the client $85 (4channel fused box costs them $100 down here) ... I give them the option of a fused box though and no matter what PSU they use it has to go into a Voltage Regulator or UPS with AVR.

No idea about nuuo but I build Geo DVRs using just a uAtx mobo with onboard everything like HDMI etc .. works fine as the video card is only for live view anyway (dont see why Nuuo says to use a separate video card). No Optical drive, just use USB or Network for backup. One strip of memory. One fan only, depends on the location. One hard drive only. But if you are using MP cameras you may need much more and that probably kills the whole energy efficient thing - by the way I would suggest against green drives for DVRs, had issues with them and Geo in the past at least, cant speak for Nuuo. use a core 2 duo and just leave speed step on - an atom would save energy but thats because its so slow in comparison. Anyway I dont build mine for energy efficiency because in reality these dont burn that much anyway compared to other things, but I build them more to cut back on heat, also using large cases even with the small boards. As for UPS, thats an add on to the PC. Down here I dont even use them anymore hardly, had issues when they dont send power back to the PC, lots of power outages here and its always off much longer than the average UPS battery time anyway. We use Voltage Regulators though such as the ones from APC as thats what actually protects the hardware. On a side note, switch them to solar and then wont have to worry about power protection at the DVR end, plus save alot in overall electricity ..

I use basic caulking. Eg. You are right about the rain drops though, they have wall mount brackets that can help with that though, in this case the client didnt want them.

I can access the DVR browser based app using your IP and port 9090 .. cant access the router though. So that works .. its port forwarded okay. Now just need to assign the DDNS to it.

do you have the IP that the ISP assigned the modem? If you have that, first check that works. from a remote location ... using XP goto start, run, type CMD then type telnet IP PORT where IP is the ISP IP and the port is the DVRs port. If the screen goes blank then its good, otherwise it will show an error. If it works then only need to get the DDNS name working for that router. May need to look at those settings a little closer. Otherwise, if it didnt connect then need to go back to the drawing board. Check the DVR's settings are correct. List them all here, IP, Subnet, Gateway. Make sure in the port forwarding section of the router you setup that port to goto the DVR's IP, using TCP. What router is it? Enable Remote Admin in the router and PM me the IP, Port, and login info for the router and I can take a look at that side of it. If you want me to look at the DDNS side of it also PM me that login, dont worry I will have forgotten it by tomorrow or you could always change the login pass.

did you add a new service under the DDNS account? Thats where you choose the DDNS name, then add to cart (free) and check out (free for up to 2 DDNS names). in the router's DDNS section would be: DDNS Service: DynDns.org Username: Your DynDns.org user login Password: Your DynDns.org user password HostName: the DDNS name you created

Is the system reboot feature in geovision enabled? I normally set my DVRs to reboot every 7 days.

Sometimes if the power is off long enough the ISP will use your IP for someone else and when you are back up they then assign you a new IP, just turning the router off and on again normally doesnt do that, though could depend on the ISP. 1-Assuming you dont have a static IP from the ISP, sign up for an account at DynDns.com and add a new free web service, set it as a DVR - pick a DDNS name, eg. me.dyndns.biz 2-Enter that info in the DDNS section of the router - if the router doesnt have that DDNS update feature then download their free software for Mac or PC and install it on a computer that is always on. 3-Make sure your DVR is set to a static IP based on the Router's. eg. 192.168.1.200 Also set the subnet mask to the router's subnet mask, eg. 255.255.255.0, and set the gateway as the router's local IP. eg. 192.168.1.1 - DNS on the DVR is not normally required at least for basic live video. 4-Setup TCP port forwarding in the router, point the port to the DVR's local IP. Test connection to that port from a remote computer with telnet or other, or use a service such as websitepulse.