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Yeah I used 8.3.3 on some 8.3.1 boards and no issues either .. thats what has me baffled. Only difference from other PCs I have here is: 1-low profile Kingston DDR2-800 memory - dont know why they sent low profile but otherwise it works fine. 2-The Apevia Qpack2 PSU sucks, sata cable (the only one) for the HDD power, the wires came out and broke just with a simple bend, so Im using the IDE power output with a Sata adapter. Dont see how that would cause this issue though. 3-Card is PCIeX1 so its connected to the crappy PSU .. perhaps?? But then why work in 8.3.1? I dont have a spare PSU here, but I could take mine out of my P4 PC and try that, its not much but should be enough to push the Cube system .. at least it has Sata power connectors. Im also wondering if its not a spread spectrum issue in the Bios .. would be a first but read something about that before. Actually not even sure if this mobo has that setting would need to check. Weird thing is the Bios didnt even have the Speed Step feature listed until I updated to the latest Bios. Didnt make a diff anyway as it was always and still is at a steady 2.6Ghz. I was only charging $150 to build this for someone I know .. never going to get the money back for all this time .. but anyway at least it might help someone else to know whats up. If I have to RMA it, thats going to be annoying, and costly from here .. thing is I have another client with an 8.3.4 card sitting in the box waiting to be installed in a new PC also ... OUCH! I wish I had another PC here to test this one here in .. but I dont .. that would at least rule out the hardware ... I already ruled out the software .. other than the GEO software that is.

Im sure you deal with alot more routers than I do down here, really I dont have that many clients just mostly home users also, so I will take your word for it on this However, most times Linksys are the only routers we can get our hands on here, or which people already have .. at least without spending alot more.

true, ive never had the need to test it, just want to be safer than sorry and its easy to enter the static IP info. though forwarding in its own range is okay, I just do it outside as I can, in the case of the linksys the DHCP gives you 50 by default so unless one has 50 computers it should be fine just giving it a higher IP in the range if the router wont let you do it outside Personally Ive had better luck with Linksys than Belkin and Netgear, but down here ive come to all of them before which have failed or reset themselves completely, some covered in dust or in really hot environments, guess that doesnt help them.

yeah any should work really, equalize is the main feature you want.

In the router I have here it says client lease time default at 0, which means 1 day. So if the power goes off and the DVR comes up before the PC then perhaps the DVR would get the first IP in the range .. then the PC the second IP in the range? Anyway like I said for anything I need to port forward to I always use a static IP outside of the DHCP range, so cant say for sure whether the DHCP is changing it that much or not. Even when I setup a network of say 4 computers now, i always set them to static, particularly helps in the case of Windows installed on an Imac by the way, something in their firmware perhaps.

Hey .. LOL Paint Shop Pro Equalize, Solarize, Grey Scale, Negative Image, Brightness Up .. not in that particular order though and not all together.

So what I found out is in the raw video file it is actually jumping .. it goes really fast for a couple frames .. Anyway .. I reloaded full XP PRO and still doing it. So I downloaded 8.3.1 and installed that driver and software and its not doing it now .. strange. Wonder if its just a bad card or firmware on the card. Put in a message to Geovision USA, see if they reply this time.

Ive never had a problem with the linksys routers I use. I never forward inside the DHCP range. All I use are basic Linksys routers, never had a problem with DVRs and static IPs when using them.

Dont know but its still on their website and on retailers sites also.

for 30' looks like it should be fine when it switches to BW at night. Hard to tell but seems your camera, if its like mine, cant see much at night. Here are a couple examples with basic light enhancements based on the image provided:

Id set the IP to static, as when you want to port forward it is more accurate. Later on down the road the IP might change due to other computer on the network or power outage on DVR the same time, or for whatever reason. I normally start all DVRs with 192.168.1.200. Actually I found their software to be much better than others. Browser based is normally much more limited, so I am interested to know what you found better about it? I dont recall mentioning the CNB remote software needs improvement? Though Im sure it could as most software from DVR companies do I do think the Vsionis software does though, its called Nemon, its much more limited and slow response than the CNB software. Are you sure you got a CNB and not the Vsionis one? With the CNB you can goto the tools and check the box "use logon and logoff" and that will allow you to have to logon with a user and password before connecting to any DVR or using any of the program's features. Also, what software and version are you using, if its the CNB? I might have a newer one here.

try 1111 .. or try 1234

I recall when we first used a router and we still had to hide it from the ISP .. at the time they werent into that .. they were the only broadband in the country so if they cut you off then its back to dial up ..

Most IR domes will barely hit 50 feet. IR bullets tend to go further but not much more. Even the IR they have that does go far, can be next to useless in many cases. Most with claims of long IR distances still do poorly, and many of those long range IR bullets have 15 degree beams instead of 30, thats not even close to the 110 degree beam you might be looking for. Even the ones with dual 15 and 30 degree beams tend to give a ring effect. If you want to flood the area, eg. 60 degree+ then need to install separate IR. All IR claims will be indoor as well, or in areas outside with objects within the IR range for it to reflect off, such as walls and bushes. Ive used the CNB BE4815NVR, 50 metres, and I can tell you its not worth it. Ofcourse in my case I am looking for a good IR camera to blast the area, comparable to an EX82, but not at its cost - havent found one yet. Most IR bullet claims are just that, claims. Also see this thread I started: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22173 the BE4810NCR is a 7.5mm+ lens, so that doesnt fit the bill in my case, and doubtful it would be much better with the IR than the BE4815NVR anyway. BTW the CNB bullets have a lockable mount. the BE4815NVR used a large alan key, and the B2760NVF I just installed a couple days ago had a small alan key. Bottom line is if you want more than 50' of IR outside in a wide open pitch dark area and actually be able to identify a person, expect to buy something other then a Color IR OR True Day Night IR bullet, and especially something other than an IR Dome .... expect it to cost alot also. Other option is to use a TRUE day night bullet and add IR separately. That way you can buy an HIGH END illuminator and flood the area with IR. Ofcourse im only going by my experience, there may always be the rare exception. The majority of my jobs require low light or Infrared though. BTW I hate Infrared now

Not necessarily correct. It depends on your ISP and how many IPs they give you. With mine, I can plug three devices into a switch and into the cable modem, and each will get a unique "outside" IP. Yeah thats correct, back in the day before routers I had a client that had to buy 2 IPs from the ISP to use the switch for 2 computers/dvrs. Honestly though it was maybe 10 years ago so I cant really remember all the details ... I think they had a DVR they wanted online, and then a Computer also .. and access to the DVR. Routers came about and made everything so much easier and then ofcourse DDNS servers also

Hmm u saying that "Indigo" make DVR for CNB ? highly doubt this the CNB DVRs do use the Indigo boards as far as I have seen so far. The cases are different but they still have identical features. The DVR's local software is identical going by the CNB's user manual. The CNB Remote software is different. I actually like the CNBs GUI better, responds faster, and so Ive been using it for at least 2 of the Vsionis DVRs in the field, which are OEMd from Indigo. Also the files listed in the CNB Remote software folder are Indigo files. I guess my question was, does CNB OEM from Indigo or vice versa .. seems they do going by D&C's reply.

You already found it, the white wire in your first post .. doubt will get any smaller than that. can also look for telco wire (as used for burglar alarm installs), but stranded instead of solid, similar to RCA. We already mentioned the reasons not for using it .. so its up to you now In other words, if you come back complaining there is distortion or lines, we cant help ..

yeah down here I think its like that too, most the DSL customers here share the same public IP address. I dont use DSL here though as its too slow in our case.

"Although coaxial cable with aluminum shielding provides 100% shielding, it should only be used for RF cable television (cattv) and master television (mattv) signals used for home video cable reception. This aluminum-shield type should never be used for CCTV for two reasons: (1) it has higher resistance, and (2) it distorts horizontal synchronization pulses. The added resistance-approximately seven times more than that of a 95% copper or copper-clad shield-increases the video cable loop resistance, causing a reduction in the video signal transmitted along the cable. The higher loop resistance means a smaller video signal reaches the monitoring site, producing less contrast and an inferior picture. Always use a good-grade 95% copper braid RG59/U cable to transmit the video signal up to 1000 feet and and RG11/U to transmit up to 2000 feet. Distortion of the horizontal synchronization pulse causes picture tearing on the monitor, depicting straight-edged objects with ragged edges." http://books.google.bs/books?id=DaQY8CrmqFcC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false this is basically what I use, its hardly space age though, we call it Siamese Cable, also known as Shotgun cable, RG59 coax for video and 1 pair 18awg for power. Also comes in a single jacket.

Ok, so from that i read there is really no expensive thin-cabling with separate shielding out there? We dont use aluminum shielded cable for CCTV, it has higher resistance and can distort the video.

it will work, just not at long distances nor for powerful IR cameras, and its a 50-50 chance you might pick up interference. I ran a 2 pair telco cable around 50' to a camera here at my appt one night for example, got all kinds of verticle and horizontal lines, wasnt near power cable but when it came back to the DVR it was. On that same note i recently extended the cable for a 2nd hand camera i got which had the cable cut 1" from the camera .. extended with telco cable around 3 feet tied into siamese for the rest of the run, works, but i wouldnt do that for a client, just that i have a box of telco wire here.

Why do you need ultra thin cable? If its just to go through a wall, can splice a thin piece of cable just for that, or drill a bigger hole.

LOL oh i thought it was like BTW or something but yes my walls do help in my image .. also mines a BW exview camera .. it sucks in the daytime though right camera for the application as you said ... or add more Infrared lighting. here is a comparison with small area to large wide area, both are identical color IR dome cameras:

no cant see to walk its very dark, here it is with IR off and then IR on, tonight: Note, this is an ultra low light BW exview camera also. Just comparing IR beams at this point.

Still looks like something is wrong with the camera. the IR beam itself seems okay for what it is. here, this shows the amount of light in the image a little better, manually edited. this gives a better example of the IR beam (IR, edited) comparison to a regular BW camera with IR (IR, edited)