rory

I swallowed a fly the other day, its no fun. . .

never been there .. welcome to the forum though

Hi, please elaborate, as we don't have Video Server-E for download on this forum. Thanks, Rory

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This is strange. New Nuvico Color Bullet Camera, all of them are mounted inside a retail store. Was fine when installed at night, come daytime they all have condensation on the inside of the glass cover. Cleaned them out, they had been on tight to begin with, put them back on tight, a few hours later they were all fogged up again. Main front door is left open as it is hot outside and no AC besides in the office area, which is kind of open to the rest of the store also. Took the covers off for now and the picture is fine. The cameras do get very hot also, but seen this before with the COP-USA bullets. But wondering if anyone else has experienced this yet with Indoor Color Bullets. Thanks, tired of Cheap Bullets. Glad I also put in a couple GE box cameras

Anyone? If so, any ideas, what product used and how you did it. Also, anyone did Siamese cable, 18AWG and RG59? Have a client where there was no choice to splice where a pole was moved, it was that or run 3 new cables some 100+ foot back around this building and that one, remove and replace wire mold as well as conduit, and get around other data cables, etc etc etc, so that wont happen anytime soon. Spliced as I always do and used alot of electric tape, but its in a weatherproof box in the ground (sealed tight and caulked, slightly above ground but mostly in the ground) but was thinking of maybe heat shrinking it or something else just to make it a more professional connection. Also found this one online: http://www.etcon.com/etcon/prosplic.html Anyway, I know my splices can last years as I have proven in the past, but this recent one is one of those that am even questioning myself.

If money is not issue, 8 x 8-Channel Real Time DVRs for starters.

Down here the courts wouldnt know edited from original, so we dont have that issue here. Then again they still want VCR tapes so ..

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I would normally say its bottom of the barrel (still may be) going by the type of camera it is, but it has high effective pixels, now whether or not it uses them is another thing. Only thing is I would not count on those IRs for any large outdoor illumination, indoor camera or small enclosed outdoor area. Another problem with the Color/IR cameras is as they dont have any IR cut filter, some will be horrible during the day especially when there is alot of sunlight - its one of those where you get what you pay for deals, more money means more features that may handle the light and colors better (actually handle the IR better). Have you tested it yet?

What about Exaq, I saw the demos and they look good, I can only wonder how much they cost though!

Yep when I was looking at it for a quote a couple years back, I was using some wireless products in the 10s of thousands of dollars (cant remember the name off hand), Multiple Access Points, switches etc. , so that may differ from the off the shelf products .... and also it was using analog cameras connected to IP servers, as if I was to use regular wireless like VideoComm or Trango it would be a separate TX and RX for each camera, 30+ cameras would not work well in that scenerio. I was thinking last night of looking to see what they have available now though in the area of Wireless cameras, especially maybe Wimax or some other repeater type wireless for even just the basic analog cameras using wireless servers. Also, my biggest issue has been with the IP software that is available, looking at it in the past there was not much out there for the regular consumer, now I just looked at Exaq technologies video demos and it looks really good .. any ideas or comments on that or other software for IP cameras? Thanks, BTW, im far from an expert on wireless Rory

The real test of a color bullet (or even a Color/IR or Day Night one) is: 1-indoors with florescent lighting 2-outdoors in the day with plenty sunlight 3-outdoors at night with dust to dawn lighting or street lighting 4-heavy rain or bucket of water poored over it We cant expect much else from them such as any kind of great backlighting, but we should at least expect them to fair well in the above environments. So far few too many I have seen cannot handle #1 and barely handle #2 and #3. As for #4, there we have the frequent condensation issue from poorly sealed cameras. If anything though, being as they are typically budget orientated cameras and many customers will be placing them inside retail stores, they should at the least handle #1, and if one finds one that can, that is truly a decent camera and would deserve its own website too.

Have no info on the HQ-1 chip, only ever seen it with OEMs, and in low cost cameras. So I think it is more advertising hype than anything. Also, the power consumption on that is low, too low actually for a color camera, would make me wonder. .. now that said, they are more realistic on the lux levels than others, and also give a decent account of the FOV. So that part is good. New technology could mean lower power consumption also. BUT, the only way to know, is to test it out. Anyone willing?

Theoretically. First off Im not talking about Megapixel cameras. Also I imagine the equipment used makes a difference, once it is not off the shelf gear like Linksys etc. The products I have looked at in the past cost in the 10s of thousands of dollars. BUT, ofcourse wired is always better When it comes to a choice of IP or Regular, thats the original distinction I was making - same quality picture if not better with non IP, and RG59 cable in my case is cheaper. When doing wireless though, with analog you are limited to the number of cameras you can use, with IP you can use as many as you can handle - you can use one switch to cover several cameras, whereas with analog you need a single TX and RX for each single camera. Now if you want MegaPixel then thats a whole different story. What IP cameras and wireless equipment were you using? Also, I was not talking about IP cameras with built in wireless.

Where is the hijack file? If you cant post the link because of being new, post it for now without the HTTP and dots.

The Eclipse model is the ECL-596 Its a 1/4" CCD and It would be nice if it came in 1/3" for a wide view, but I havent found another Budget color bullet that can touch it for quality yet at that price range. Unfortunately my regular distributor does not sell Eclipse.

The WZ line of Bullets were a great disappointment, and cost more than others with the same specs (eg. Nuvico). The adjustment part of it is the worse part, the mounts and the focusing - pulled teeth with the 2 larger models. Ignore the TVL though as its the Image Pixels is what matters, the WZ14 is a low resolution camera: NTSC: 510 (H) x 492 (V) , as I imagine the other 2 were as well. Ofcourse the Chip matters also, and the the other 2 may have been CMOS or Sharp, or even just not focused. At that price range there will be little more in the way of features so as mentioned, Chip and Image Pixels is key - focus also plays a big part with IR apps - Bullet cameras dont always come focused properly for IR, even the Color/IR ones, as these are - and that goes for the WZ line as well, we had a painstaking task trying to focus them properly for both day and night applications, while other brands I tested came focused and were simple to mount and adjust. BTW, the WZ14 retails for over $200. Some are worse than others, the other 2 you looked at may have been the bottom of the barrel. Basically, these type of Color/IR cameras are low quality cameras, no matter who sticks their brand name on it. For the price, it gets the job done - if one wants better, then there is the Day Night camera, (True Day Night with IR Cut Filter). There are also so many variations of Color/IR cameras ranging in prices from next to nothing to just a couple bucks less than the True Day night cameras. Specs are essential but ultimately one has to test it in the field. If you find a good one, please post the day and night images here. Meanwhile, question to the OP, at $130 what type of Bullet camera were you meaning, B/W, Color, Color/IR, Day/Night?

Ok lets try this again .. anyone on the forum from the Miami area, I need advise on where to stay, close to computer stores and a mall .. thanks!! Been searching all over but its hard to tell what is a good area or what is crime ridden ..

They dont have any settings .. Really tiny ones in that case .. now, those Cop ones are on a very cheap 4 channel 4amp PSU (8 cameras on it, 2 on each terminal, 1 fuse for all) and it has been acting up, met one camera not on the other day, no power coming to it but the other camera that was on that terminal was fine, fiddled with it, another camera went off and that one came on (the other camera was on another terminal I never touched!!) .. went away for 10 minutes came back all cameras were working .. bad PSU? I was going to change it for a plug in one and just splice it for now .. 2 amp like I use for mine here .. just to see as ordering one can take a couple weeks. Wonder if that could have any effect on the light changes. It had been fine since last year October, and everything is on a Voltage Regulator and UPS.

even if I got it open, not a chance in hell finding those packs on the island though On the subject of cheap bullets, I got some Cop-USA ones (even cheaper dont ask!!) at a clients store going between dark and light .. it looks like its the florescent lighting . as the same ones in the back area where there is other type of lighting are fine .. ideas? ( big hammer perhaps? )

Im just happy mine are only being used indoors, but would still like to fix the problem

Thanks!

This is the bullet camera here, now wondering why it has been discontinued http://www.nuvico.com/product_detail.asp?strCategoryCD=CC001&strModel=BULLET%20CAMERAS&prod_cd=NP0036&Page=1

No, the cameras are very small. Well dont know if they have any inside the rear of them though as I didnt open that part up. The front has no room for them.