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I believe the software would still do compression, as the user may not have admin control over the camera to change it, but still want to view or record it and have slower connections than the camera/servers compression can handle, so hopefully they still enable software compression as an option for those. Hopefully it wont cost $1000 either, however if you take Milestone for example, their prices arent cheap, ends up around $3000+ for 16 cameras .. Id like to take a look at Nuuo sometime though .. for megapixel stuff. I doubt the Geo IP thing would really be geared towards IP Video only apps though, but moreso add ons to existing systems. Their CMS should definitely be included freely though, that kind of thing is common with other DVRs now. They also should drop the prices on their cards IMO, at least some of them.

Geovision is a software company, Avermedia is a hardware company who also provides software. So with Geo, as with MS, everything is going to be about the software licensing. And like MS, Geo knows (or thinks) they have the market share, for now at least.

using GeoVision and version 8.12, Geo Mpeg4. You can also separately set the webcam and other network modules to use H.264 if you have slow internet connections, but using that compression, quality would be drastically reduced within those modules.

Once the PC goes into standby, it is there until you wake it. So you would make sure the PC stays always on. You can get LCD monitors that will sleep though. Then just get a Dual VGA (or DVI) Card and "Clone" the screen in the Video Adapter Setup. Run a VGA Extender cable to the other monitor in the next room.

Glad you got it straight

Wouldn't that kill the whole FireFox being more secure than IE idea ..

Well they dont provide any screen shots so we could only guess as to what they really are like ..

First plug the cameras directly into a CCTV Monitor or 13" TV (NOT an LCD), check the image quality, then let us know how it is. Ignore the internet quality, and even the quality through the DVR, for now at least.

apparently his Vonage is taking over, he has that plugged in right after the modem, then the router is plugged into that, so thats the main problem (found out via PM). So he needs to figure out if he can either port forward from the vonage, or make it just a DMZ or something (dont know that model) or like the other vonage models, just plug the vonage into the router.

Best method is to just twist positive to positive, ground to ground (braid), video to video, etc. Dont put the positive twisted cable ontop of the negative one, put it one way then the other the other way so they are not over each other, then tape up good and tight (test first). Video can go over either one, and once again test then tape good and tight. Also, what cable was it again (see my earlier question). This is not a typical CCTV connection so you wont find any definitive explanation of how to do it, it can vary from camera to camera and cable to cable, as that cable is not really CCTV cable.

The router maybe using a different port also, like 8080. Send me your IP and I can take a look, is the IP is different from the one you are on right now? (im a mod so I can see IPs )

Remove all the ones with 80 except yours, or just change their ports to 81 for now. Stealth means it is not open.

80 is there twice, so need to remove 1 of them, such as the 0.0.0.0 one. EDIT - its there 4 times, so delete the DCS ones also. In fact none of the 0.0.0.0 ones are serving any purpose so you could remove them all if wanted. Did you ask your ISP whether they block port 80? Some of them do, and in that case you would need to change that port to another. If you are not sure, you can test port 80 here: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 Click the proceed button to goto the test section, then enter 80 in the text box and click test custom port. Also, if it is a Windows based DVR you need to add the ports into the Windows Firewall in the Control Panel, or disable the Firewall.

Basically you send a request to your IP address (assigned by the ISP) and a port (80 is default if left blank in the browser), the router then accepts the request (unless it is all locked down) and needs to then know what computer you want to goto, so it looks to see if there is a computer associated with that port .. if it finds one then you are forwarded to that Computer's IP and the specified port, otherwise you go nowhere. Linksys is by far the easiest to setup IMO, Dlink, you may need to check for Virtual Servers, they call call them something different.

Thats where my sticky comes in handy now .. You need to port forward the DVR ports in the router setup, so you can access it from the internet.

I emailed them from end of last week but havent heard back yet, so thought I would ask here. Okay so I have a 12VDC PSU, will be plugged into a Surge Strip, then into a UPS with AVR .. it comes with a 2 prong power cord .. connected that to the 2 wires in the box already, but there is a green wire with one end of it screwed onto the back panel of the PSU metal case, says it is for earth ground. Question is this, first there is no ground wire or pole available and wont be able to get one, but since it is being plugged into the AVR etc, is it really needed? Using Altronix in the past and even the OEM PSUs, never had to connect up an earth ground cable before. The documentation is pretty limited with the Pthree in this regard. Thanks Rory

LOl .. first I was trying a screw driver and just jicking it like we do the holes in the alarm panels .. well that didnt work

You will end up with one big bright spot, being the IR reflecting back from the glass. If you can get the camera lens right up on the glass touching it, or close enough and have a foam ring or something around it to block the IR, then it may work, after all the IR is still just light; but with an all in one IR camera you may find that difficult to do.

I like the IR Remote though, I'm programming it into my remote software right now ..

Yep, I don't do any outdoor boxes though, this is all indoors. Got a question though, why they made the knock outs on the Pthree so hard you need a hammer to break them through I do like the Pthree's separated panel thing though. One of their techs was also a member on this forum at one time.

What are the major benefits to using them over a single PC keyboard with KVM switches. With the KVM switch we can for example just click scroll lock twice then 1-10 for DVRs 1 through 10, to switch between the DVRs. Just curious. Thanks

Ok yall lost me .. anyway, Ive used Altronix in the past without ever having to worry about this green ground wire, even with the 4 channel OEM PSU I just used it had none of that. I think Im going back to Altronix .. When mounted to a sheetrock, wooden, or concrete wall, inside a building, will this green ground wire prevent fire and/or ground loops/interference; codes dont bother me as there really are none here. ..

GE wont, uses ActiveX or installed EXE. Dont know about the rest. There are ways around it though, but not easy as still depends on the DVR. An idea though, if the DVR Network software allows you to save snapshots of live images, you could load that on a separate PC on the DVR's local network, then install IIS to run a web server on that same PC, and using something like ASP, etc, along with Javascript, you could create a default web page that would show images from the cameras which had been captured using the DVR's Snapshot function. You would either need a program that clicks the snapshot buttons on the DVR Network software, or if they provide an activeX you could dump that into a VB program then do that within the program.

I dont know about the keyboard, but you could get multiple IR remotes, then learn them all into 1 single IR Remote or something like the Phillips Prontos (looks like a pocket PC), which would then let you program some virtual buttons on the main screen, you could then just select DVR1, DVR2, etc .. to control them .. just an idea ..

If it is thinner than the cable in the image posted, I would change the cable. That cable in the link are 3 separate pairs, or 6 conductor, where Red is power, yellow is video, and white is audio. Perhaps try doubling up the cables, the distance of the run and the power draw from your camera may also be an issue using wire that thin. Though what SureVeillance said pretty much covers it all.