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If you want the lowest lux without IR, then it has to be Exview, slow shutter is even worse for other reasons. Exview will outperform other BW and still be very clear without pixelising, unless it gets very very dark (near pitch dark) then that is when it pixelises, and if you cant live with the pixelising, then it is simply too dark and you need IR or additional lighting. For night clubs, all you really need are BW OEM bullets, black casing, you put them where they cannot be seen or touched, as they are so small, and black, they are near invisible. As they are so cheap, they can easily be replaced as time goes on, or in the case of damage for one reason or another - even the best cameras on the market have occasional problems, and that goes for Extreme's also. If its one of those "sweatheart" type bars or clubs though, then you will more than likely need IR, as I know they like their lights dimmed right down until you can barely see anything at all.

You missed a main pro for Geo, they have an SDK, Aver doesnt. Probably one of the reasons if not the main one, I dont use Aver. Also, as for the zoom in feature, even DigiFlower has that. You can do the same with Geo, you just have to use the + and - instead.

Yep thats kind of what Im saying, just because the cards are typically good, doesn't mean all software apps that work with them, are. Just because its hardware compression, that doesnt take away from the fact that there is still software that needs to be run on the PC and that software maybe prone to crashing and such; not saying it is in this case, just saying.

Yeah but the Mini ITX case wont support a normal ATX PSU .. If Im using a Micro or Full Atx Case, then I would have no use for this mobo I looked into mini cases for DVRs before, found a manu that does the mobo and cases out of Asia, also provides risers for PCI etc, so would be able to build your own Mini DVR, they would even badge them etc .. but then yah know .. living down here its not going to happen in my lifetime. And with our power and import issues here, would need to keep a load of spare PSUs for those cases. .. Standard ATX we can get .. with minimal problems.

Yeah, but Mini ITX wont really work for us In fact unless the case can use a standard ATX PSU I dont even look at it .. For a MicroATX DVR we can just stick in a PCI-e card for $40. PS. where is the link though?

Look for something with Exview, there are many models from different brands, in bullet or box cameras. Either way, any standard BW bullet camera will outperform the cameras you have already used, in that low light situation.

Yes, but even with the X1300 chipset, there is no DVI by default, in fact I still havent seen a motherboard yet with the DVI; which model are you using that has DVI? If you are adding a card to it, might as well make it a PCI-e card one time hey

There really isnt much difference in using a separate PCI Express card these days, or onboard video. Back in the day with slow PCs it would have made a difference, especially with SIS and other sucky onboard video chips. Current Intel onboard video chipsets are fine now though, at least since the 950. Also, all that is for is the live video and has no effect on the DSP output, and quality will not differ unless you are going to actually use the DVI on the LCD monitor, which for that you will need the separate card. In fact with the Geo Combo cards, if you use the DSP settings, direct draw overlay is disabled on the live video. Also quality on LCD monitors are still not as good as CRTs, yet everyone uses them now regardless. On the flip side, if you have the card though, use it. Also 256MB PCI-e Cards with ATI chipsets cost as low as $40 now. Only reason I can see not to use it is if building a Micro system, where you want to keep the heat down to a minimum, and even with a Combo card, it can be a great machine.

Cards are one thing, the software is another thing alltogether. Even Geo doesnt make its own cards, its a software developer.

These guys have some mini PTs and mini PTZs. http://www.acutvista.com.tw/SSD.htm

Sound great, glad you finally got it sorted out.

There isnt much difference between the 2 of them, most times they claim more than they give anyway, peak times can be slower also. Upload speed is the important part. The upload bandwidth from the DVR can differ depending on: 1-Color or BW cameras - Color will require more bandwidth. 2-Compression Method used - MJpeg will require more bandwidth than H.264 3-Failing DVR - if the DVR is not healthy, its server will also not be healthy.

I dont recall the settings on that DVR, but did you set up the SMTP server properly, using your ISP's SMTP server? Many ISPs block port 25 other than using their own. Port 25 is the default SMTP outgoing mail port.

An NVR is a Network Video Recorder. It can be anything from a small embedded box to a standard PC to a rack mount server. It records video that is sent to it over the network (or Internet), so no Capture card is required. A DVR is similar, but requires a Capture card for the video. A DVR is typically used in CCTV while an NVR is for Networked Video Surveillance, somewhat like a professional webcam recording solution, with many more features. On the flip side the DVR can also be setup to have video sent over the network for live or recorded remote video. The NVR requires IP cameras, these can be placed anywhere there is a local network or internet connection. The DVR uses CCTV cameras which are connected directly to the DVR. Many manufacturers are now making dual CCTV DVR and IP Video Surveillance systems, these are called Hybrid Systems, and if anything is to be the future of the surveillance industry, this would be it.

No, at least not on the older models, cant speak for the new ones that may have different firmware.

Should be the same thing, far as I know they just name it that, but its still the main Multicam exe file. The ini file tells the app what card it is and what skin files to use, and the drivers are already installed separately.

will it fix the 250 issue also? If so, perhaps send me the file so I can test that out please ..

They should look into software based activation based on the user's hardware. I mean if someone is going to crack it, they can crack the dongles too. Only do dongles maybe for large networks.

indoor bullet/dome - $75 vandal dome - $150 Outdoor Box camera - $150 difficult camera - $250 PTZ - $450 Infrared LED - $150 (requires night time adjustments etc) Infrared Camera - $250 (the real gear) (none of the above includes wiring except a 4 channel budget job like drop ceiling/attic) service min $75 4chDVR - $150, 8/10CH - $250, 16ch -$450 ----------------------------------- average install (done properly) ----------------------------------- indoor bullet/dome - 1 hour vandal dome - 2 hours Outdoor Box camera - 2 hours difficult camera - 3-4 hours PTZ - 4-6 hours Infrared LED - 2 hours Infrared Camera - 2-4 hours

what about it?

$75 per camera, $150 for the 4 channel DVR. This does not include running any cable.

he has too much time on his hands ..

Interesting though, wonder if my software will work with them ..

Yes, it will save the setting.

I could never get those settings to be affected either. If you just want to set it to H.264 though, when you start webcam change the setting to H.264 there and it will remain like that.