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Okay, with the firewall enabled you will have to make sure all the ports for the DVR are opened in the firewall or if one that is required is not open, you may be able to connect, but may not show video. I set up a couple NetProMaxes but that was a year or so ago, cant remember off hand. Windows XP SP2 also has a firewall so need to check that as well. Once you use TCP / UDP Port Filtering a firewall is generally not required. Anyway, check out these 2 posts and see if they help in any way. http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=32896&highlight=#32896 http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3287 Rory

The more products they carry, the less able they will be to properly support all of those products.

Are there any firewalls installed on the DVR Server PC? Is windows XP firewall enabled? You say nothing else is installed at all besides the DVR software? Does it also have an Internal Static IP setup? Are you having problems locally, or remotely? Is this a NetProMax built PC DVR or did you install the card yourself?

yeah ive had my Triplite 500ma Voltage Regulator since 1996 ... still works and never had a hardware problem while everything was conected to it .. everyone else is always loosing their equipment here from brownouts .. etc I dont even use a UPS for my home set up ... wont help me with the power problems we have here .. but for the clients just get the all in one UPS Voltage regulator one time.

Hi, and welcome to the forum. Dont judge IR by the cameras used in this example .. not all cameras are made alike. What was the other camera, brand name and specs? Axis is not considered a high end camera for Infrared Applications either. There are 2 different applications 1-Day Night 2-Infrared Day Night Visible light will always be better than using Infrared. IR Sensitive is not the same as IR Optimized (or IR Corrected). Day Night doesn't mean it is IR Optimized (or IR Corrected). Typical Day Night is easy to achieve, once there is sufficient light and the right camera and lens is used. The Digital day nights do not compare to the True Day Nights which use Mechanical Filters to Switchover between Color and BW, though there is some new technology coming out now. Sensitivity to Infrared greatly depends on the camera. The Color IR camera you used in the example above appears to be a generic OEM box camera with a lens that has some IRs on it, its not considered A Day Night camera, merely a Color IR camera, has no physical switchover to BW mode. Therefore as it has no IR pass filters it will not be as sensitive to IR and especially the higher IR wavelengths, and without IR Cut Filters the day time image will be slightly washed out due to the IR produced from the sunlight. The IR Bleed effect and the glare also depends on which camera is used, and also, what lens is used. Extreme CCTV designs their cameras specifically for Infrared Applications, so they would be an example of a professional IR camera. Using an IR corrected lens also gets rid of most of the focus shift issues between Day, Low Light, Night, and Night with IR. A few years back those lenses didnt exist and i had to use regular lenses, they worked okay, but would go slightly out of focus at times. Now it is easier, but those IR Corrected lenses arent cheap. Still, even with IR Optimized cameras and IR corrected Lenses, nothing beats a seperate color camera for day time, and BW for night time, especially when dealing with IR, but even in normal Day night apps, at night time the standard BW camera and a single color camera for daytime will outperform a single Day Night camera. Now, that said, Ive used Sanyo Day Night box cams and they came out great for IR apps, though not as good as I would have liked. Would i use them again for IR apps, no, Ill just make the client spend he extra couple hundred $$ for an easier job and better IR image. Though at 1/3 the cost of the Extreme IR cams and basic home application it was fine. It takes alot of time from the design to the installation, so honestly in the long run, its better and cheaper sometimes to just buy something like the Extreme CCTV All in one IR cameras, or the All in one Day Night IR optimized cameras, then add the IR that is required. (no housings, no IR bleed, etc). As for the glare, ive come across that myself, its basically that you have to choose the IR for the location. Unfortunately even with the short range IRs like the one you used, if it is too close to the subject it will produce glare on their face and you wont be able to make them out. Moving it up higher, pointed upwards more, or mounted off to the side can help. Each IR from Derwent (same as Extreme) have different beams, lenses, and power options and settings. You can drop the Infrared Output from the greatest distance of IR - either by using the IR level adjuster (only on a couple of them however), by using higher IR wavelengths (requires a IR sensitive camera that specs the actual IR response in nanometers), or on the power supplies tapping the output from the transformer down so the bulb gets less power. Each of these can drop it by 20% approx, or more, depending on the IR illuminator used. Hope this helps some .. Rory

Yeah i didnt want to go into detail on IIS as i think he might mean it is running on the client PC not the server, will wait and see. But the way I got IIS to run, and not even use port 80 at all, was to have Geo WebCam Server on Port 81, and then set IIS on port 82. You can use port 80 for either of them also, I just wanted to stay away from 80 as its a commonly probed port and this is also my personal PC ... yep, Geo Card and IIS on a 2ghz AMD with VIA chipset .. all running 24/7

You want to get one with Voltage Regulation (Power/Line Conditioning) built in , something like this: (get a larger one depending on current draw, though this should suffice for most general installs) http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BE650R http://www.apcc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BE650R

what about Northern Video? Ive heard alot about them, or even maybe Systems Depot? You want to hook up with companies that buy in bulk, and buy from them basically. Even if you dont buy everything from the same person, buy from whoever specialises in the products so you get the best support. Also check on buying from the manufacturer reps or even the manufacturers direct. Short of support, i know what you mean, you want someone that practically stocks the items or at least can red label the stuff to you ASAP .. thats why i started buying up north instead of Miami which is closer to me, service is just better up north. Rory

On the DVR server, you need to start the WEBCAM Server, you can have it come up on start up in the Geo Settings. Once that is working, it will be port 80 by default. You can change that if you want. eg. Port 81 or 82 Locally it doesnt have to be port forwarded. If the port is 81 then you would need to add :81 after the internal IP. If you need to connect remotely you will need to port forward the port from within the router. Also make sure Windows Firewall is off on the DVR server machine, or you have configured it for WebCam and Port 80. If you have ISS on the DVR machine and its running, then you will need to change the Ports accordingly. On the DVR machine you will need to go into the TCP settings and set a static internal Ip address, Subnet, gateway, and ISP DNS. To view remotely you need to port forward the HTTP port, default is 80, and also Port 4550 and 5550. Rory

Depends where you are located?

Not sure as havent used it, but seems to be just a basic IR camera, nothing special, though is nice with alot of the Provideos is you can get them in various color housings. I had good luck with the CVC-325 cameras, they lasted for years. Their BW version costs more than the CVC-627 so cant say they are of the same quality or not.

Hi, just to review the rules here, guys please PM David with your Info regarding purchasing, no soliciting on the normal posts, PMs are good though. thanks Rory

they arent the manufacturer, if you need to know that also.

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Yeah i never did find any free ones, just the ones listed on that link. Go1984 does multiple windows, and so does LuxRiot. Here are some other things to look at http://noeld.com/programs.asp?cat=video#mdetect

Ok, no prob. Extreme is very expensive. WizKid can be very cheap, in the BW domes, specifically the WZ30, though it doesnt have a gimble, the WZ46 costs a little more but can be mounted anywhere. 1 2 3 4 1 = Color OEM Bullet camera, 0.5 lux 2 = Color High Res Vandal Dome Super HAD Camera 0.5 lux 3 = BW Exview OEM Bullet Camera (didnt lasty long but saw good at night) 4 = BW Provideo Bullet Camera (lasted for years) 2-4 locations are very dark, especially #3

on the card, how many chips does it have? What driver comes up as installed, Conexant? If so, just a generic 4 channel card, i can use the same drivers with the geo 4 channel card also, basically almost all 4 channel basic cards can use the same drivers. But their original software wont work as it is looking for their software drivers, not the BT ones. You will only be able to view 1 channel at a time using the CAP software programs. You need a more advanced multiplexed Software program such as LuxRiot to view all at once. Or you could try one of the other programs such as go1984.

Hi Edward Have you checked out this post yet: http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2021 Rory

hi, thats simply a color exview bullet, not a True Day Night, IMO it wont see anything much in that lighting. You really need a BW Exview, or a True Day Night which switches to a true BW Mode. Regardless, from the lighting in the picture, you still wont see a whole lot without IR or Aditional lighting. I would feel confident, after usng them in extremely dark locations with very minimal additional lighting (such as the light you have there off the the left), that a Sanyo Day Night BOX camera will be able to see something, though for identifying purposes you would need additional lighting. I had them in areas where i could not see to walk, and they produced very well, ofcourse i was also using Infrared with them, but i tested them with the IR off as well. However it wouldnt be a cheap setup. If you are on a strict budget and just want something to see at night, then best bet would be a simple BW Bullet, or a Vandal Dome if it is accessible. If you then still cant see well, you can always add IR. Ill leave you with these images, Box camera is the Sanyo Day Night, not quite as good as some others such as the GE, etc, but for the price, it works well, and it is what we consider a TRUE day Night with Mech Switch over and IR cut Filter. if using with Infrared will require IR lenses, otherwise a normal lens will suffice. A 1/2" Day Night would be even better, but can get very costly, and not always required. A f:095 lens such as the Fujinon/GE lens would be good for that low light area.

Make sure the Radeon Display Drivers are installed (not the windows Assigned drivers), also make sure DirectX 9.0 is installed. Thats why you are getting the error, it is a Video Card Driver Error, I use the same card and it should work fine once the drivers are installed. Rory

Nope, cant be done by the current software. Some cameras have that built in, such as some OSD version cameras. Rory

Do you have the AGC on that Pano turned on? Or perhaps the Iris is open to wide?

hardware only makes up 50% of a stable system, the other 50% is software and tweaking.

You could just use single channel IP video servers with standard cameras, then add more as you need them. The software normally comes with the Video Servers. They generally also come in 1, 2, and 4 way versions - check Acti & Axis.

using the router means one less service on the PC ... i used it for a while until my Linksys Router stopped working properly, the DHCP stopped working and tripped out the DynDns service, so i had to make my DynDns.org account a static one, i have a new router here now, just havent had a chance to switch out yet. ive been using DynDns.org for almost a year without issues for clients .. I can understand the TZO pay service to an extent, but in most cases the free service works well. Im definately going to check out the TZO service more when i get a chance, as there may be a reason to go that route over DynDns .. as for Static IP, it cost a home user here in the Bahamas an upgrade to the $70 package from the normal $36 package, and then an extra $20 for the static IP, as with the $36 package cant get the Static IP with that. Business Accounts automatically get a static IP though. Our biggest problem here is bandwidth issues. They charge an arm and a leg to get decent bandwidth. Rory