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Exactly. I was wondering if was worthwhile to go for the cheap one, like Cnb, or concentrate on more "famous" brands like Samsung or Panasonic paying more. Someone here suggested the latter viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26125&p=159594&hilit=samsung+cnb+night#p159594 and I think I will choose this way. Bye take into consideration though they dont make cameras like they used to .. seems alot of CCTV cameras suck now compared to their older counterparts. I guess this could be one reason many are moving towards IP.

Did he leave that big mess on the ground too? I'd charge him to clean that up as well, even if it was there before

Yes you can clearly see the direction of the bullet, but then how do you know if its 2.5mm or 8mm? One could be looking right at the camera, and like MOST criminals, wearing a mask or hoody. One could hide in the bush until one figures out where the lens is directed, or like many criminals, case the joint before hand. I understand your point, but these days it is not really valid anymore- unless the camera has a dark tint and that is suitable for indoors or full light. A criminal can disable a dome and a bullet just as easy, I dont see what the big argument is. I Have bullets pointing right at a gate - dummy cameras though - same height as their face, they dont even see them - they still tresspass. The criminal that knows cameras and will do what it takes, can come along the side of a dome or bullet and move or cover the bullet, and cover the dome - disabling both of them - off camera. Ofcourse the dome makes it harder for the average person to just fiddle with so at any reachable height it makes sense to install a dome if it can be mounted there. At an unreachable height then they are both equal. I sledged Hammer Poly-carb dome before and although it did not damage the camera inside, it was rendered useless with the big cracks in it. Many bullets now are coming vandal resistant, literally. DOMES are not as weatherproof as bullets - fact. Their entire design leaves the back of the camera wide open. Just use both and know when to install which one - there is no one type of camera for every application. Ive done the domes on the pole thing in the middle of summer tropical storms, and they just dont cut it and most manufacturers will tell you they need to be mounted under at least an overhang. In fact if there is any Dome that might be able to hack it then its the Turret Style as its all enclosed and sealed like a bullet camera. One thing I think we all agree on - Domes are more cosmetic and can be more vandal resistant? That was in my original post.

Would have cost too much, would have had to order the baluns, thats 1-2 weeks and $30-50 per balun (x8) after shipping/markup. RG59 Siamese for all cameras cost them under $100, BNCs are like $2 each.

15'? Sure, outdoors the lens is easy to spot with the sun reflecting off it, indoors many domes use inserts and that right there tells you which side the lens is. 50', not as easy.

I dont run conduit. I sub to electrician.

You can see the lens unless it is dark tint and then it is useless at night. They are identical in that area. You get some bullets that do not, you get some domes that do not - but otherwise it is a misinformation to say that one does it over the other, just have to pick the right camera. They are normally the same type of camera and use the same types of lenses, M12 or M13. I change lenses on bullets all the time. Every city must have a glass company, glass is on bullets. Try finding a poly-carbonate dome cover at your local hardware store. not always, eg. the CNB VBM-24VF is much cheaper than any TDN Bullet equivalent. Except for the mini bullets, which are less obvious than domes. Sounds like you had bad experience with them. But not every IR camera will have bugs making a nest on them, maybe 1 out of 5. AND built in IR still works fine once you buy the right camera. It is misinformation to state that all built in IR sucks - i Use it every day and I know it works. Domes better for most indoor apps though. Bullet still reigns supreme outdoors, in general.

Built-in IR, as a general rule, is a gimmick and a poor idea. Use external illuminators if you must. Better yet, use cameras that don't need it, and/or add white light. Unless you have to open one up to adjust zoom/focus... then you've probably reduced the weatherproofing. 3-Easier to hide/protect the wiring Bullet con: easily knocked out of position with a rock or stick - you don't need to damage a camera to disable it. I used IR cameras for 10 years, it is NOT a gimmic - it works, its proven. And as I said IR in Bullets will generally be much more powerful than IR in a dome. As for disabling cameras, I mentioned VANDAL resistant - that is the pro to the dome. BOTH can easily be disabled by simply covering them.

depends on the location: Bullet camera pros over domes are: 1-more infrared (if used) 2-more weatherproof in general 3-easier to install/adjust VANDAL dome pros over bullets are: 1-vandal resistant 2-cosmetics

I normally do, $75 per indoor camera, $150 per outdoor camera, $50 per dummy camera, more for a PTZ, $150-$350 for DVR, $150 for power. Though it may vary per install, difficult locations will cost alot more. This does not include the wire run.

The budget is fine, in fact it is way higher than what most will spend these days on CCTV ... but its way too low for 10 cameras.

Fat32 normally works though, sometimes its just the flash drive.

Moved to the IP camera forum.

Yes but I dont advertise. Im broked. A website and getting high ranked on google is a good start though. Some free advertising by starting a youtube channel also.

It supports 4 HDD max instead of 8 Re: Internet ... It uses ActiveX inside the IE browser - type in DVR IP/DDNS, installs activeX It has desktop software for PC, Mac, and Linux. See my previous post for image samples. Everything uses some special software, even inside a web browser without activeX, the browser itself is special software to begin with and limits what can be done. The desktop software is typically always going to be the most powerful option.

"SDHC" refers only to a spec for high-capacity SD cards; it means nothing to USB flash drives. He may need to format as plain FAT (rather than FAT32), which for best compatibility means a flash drive <2GB. Yep my bad, I use SD and SDHC cards in a USB Flash drive which had me ... confused I find 2GB and less work best though, can never get my 8GB to read in some DVRs.

Thats the Dahua 3.5" Sata. Screws are provided. @Adam, remarkably the WD green drives work good in these. Normally I would stay clear of them otherwise and get the blues or blacks if you can. here is the supported HDD list for the Dahua LE-A. upgrade DVR firmware to latest version to ensure the accuracy of the table below.

no user manual Check the IR remote for anything that says USB or looks like a floppy disk. It wont auto run, it will have to be initiated by the remote or a menu section.

I thought you already tried to backup but it failed? Maybe it doesnt backup to USB? When playing back see if there is a USB backup feature there, or save icon.

What if they cut the power, or burn the building down? And when the power goes off the typical consumer UPS is useless without something like a generator.

Try a 2GB (non SDHC) and should work

How big is the flash drive? What format is it? What make is it?

Should be no backlight issue then. Was the Nuvico this wide an angle though? Image will get darker as you zoom the lens in more, due to the f stop getting higher and less light is let into the camera. Dont move it permanently to begin with, get a piece of coax and extend it to the area to test it first.

Get a Dahua 4 channel then record off site using the network software. I had no hard drive in my DVR for months and recorded on my P4 computer over the network. You can also FTP images. eg. http://www.qvissecurity.com/files/417d446a-458d-4d14-975c-9efa0099eed0/ZEUSMK2-N.pdf Although a cheap IP camera might also be an option. Maybe look at Vivotek, CNB, or Geovision IP cameras. I know CNB and Geovision come with free NVR software, not sure about Vivotek.