rory

Cool, anyway, im going to put together a "WANTED" list for a DVR, a no BS no FRILLS list of what we actually NEED in a DVR ... with some ideas taken from the stand alones AND the PC DVRs all into one ... over the weekend ill post it here ...

im getting one of these in our next test bunch .. hopefully ...

Well the Ganz listed here, are Indoor Color Varifocal Dome Cameras. A totally different ball game from what we were talking about on the other thread. Rory

its a very good price, check you know what town for an idea ...

probably, its used for any long range wireless ..

cool, here is my chosen selection of domes etc im using now .. http://www.bahamassecurity.com/uploads/CCTV_CAMERAS_MAY_01_05.pdf note to self .. please dont ask about pricing, it is local bahamian pricing only .. See one of the US dealers on here if you want to buy in the US, such as Herm, etc ..

TORX Hmmm, is that it ..?! Wonder why they chose that over the Alan key which everyone else uses .. guess to make it a little harder to mess with .. i imagine most installers have at least a set of alan keys ..

PMMed .. Pano also has a Wide Dynamic DN a little more $$ ... not sure how good it is, but it looks ugly and not very discreet, from the images .. but one of the few WD domes ... if you need a WD DN Dome..

its all that UF500 IR ..! whoops sorry thought you mean the bix camera .. here is the dome i have at another clients house, 3 years or so now .. http://www.sanyo.com/industrial/security/cameras/special/index.cfm?productID=766 Only thing, not cheap, and not really wall mountable ... very good image though and easy to install. Doesnt use an Alan Key though, uses that start shaped thing. Also, not exview so color is not very low light, but BW works well. Im going to be moving them in a couple days to the clients new home, so Il ltry to bring one back here to test for a couple nights. .and get some shots.

they've had it for years .... http://www.sanyo.com/industrial/security/cameras/special/downloads/VCC-4594_brochure.pdf

Samsung Techwin also has a WD Day Night Dome, dont know how good it is ... also Pano has a WD Day Night Dome ...for Domes and WD thats about it. The Sanyo DN Dome is great also, high res and easy switching to BW .. the only other Dome I have seen with WD and Day Night, in a smaller normal looking size, is the Ambush Dome, dont know how good it is though .. an unknown brand ..

yes, they basically use a roller, a piece of glass covers the chip and rolls back and forth, my issue originally was with too much IR, and the darn thing came off the roller and I had to take the camera appart and put it all back together again .,. then after some adjustments to the IR it worked perfect, going on 3+ years now ..

yes, same thing but with Wide dynamic and SSNR, its their top model ..

by the way, sanyo has been doing the slide thing with mechanicl IR cut Filter for 4 years on one of my installs So far I have seen Toshiba, Samsung Techwin, and Sanyo doing it this way .. who else?? I have to test a GE Exview Day Night, and Pano WD Day Night .. if some free time will call the owner tomorrow to come and hook them up .. will let yah know.

Kaysedeya has used the newer version of this, the 721, and along with Extreme CCTVs UF500 464' Infrared Bulb .. give him a holla .. Ive used the Sanyo true Day Night, with 2 UF500's ....

dude whats a DCR?? I want one of them they sound cool .. Last time i checked the casino down here still uses VCRs, and a ton of them at that..!

a decent one would have an automatic/mechanical IR Cut Filter for sure, and it would say it does. NOT a digital Day Night - these are normally cheaper in price, and hence not quite as good as a True Day Night. - They can pass for an okay camera for their price, but you arent asking about that. Something like 0.1 Lux or lower in BW Mode, 0.02 or 0.01 preferably. Color lux level will depend on how low you want it to go in color mode ... most dont go that low unless they are Exview. Auto Iris, Varifocal Lens. Day Night Infrared Cameras - Extreme CCTV - Big $$ but they work. Big Brands - Panasonic, GE, Sanyo, Bosch, Ganz. Other Brands (not as popular) - Toshiba, Samsung Techwin (not Samsung GVI), JVC Mid Range Names - Speco (Provideo) ... havent found any others in this range yet for what I want .. Low End - thousands of them but hard to find with an auto IR Cut Filter. Domes are hard to find in a good day night, Sanyo, Panasonic both have some great ones, Also Provideo has a couple new ones for less $$. Hunt also has one but its cheap and dont know much about it yet. WizKid have some but they dont have IR Cut Filters. ExtremeCCTV has one but its twice the price of the panosonic. Most if not all of the above have good True Day Nights in Box cameras. My personal experience is with Panasonic, GE, Sanyo, Provideo. Ive only 'heard' the others have them. Rory

Hmmmm, taiwan for sure, maybe china also ..

Not really. We don't need foriegn food or products to survive. Our economy could support itself if we would let it. You could in the US, but not here in the Bahamas, everything we have here is from the US.

Everything (almost) that we buy here comes in from the US .. so we should stop eating and drinking ..?? Cause its the same idea ...

.. id be a 5 pack of bud a night worker, no ss payments so hed get some cheap labour and a beer a day .. at least id be da land of da free, and seven elevens ..

scott maybe i should go a 150' pole climbing vacation to long island .. i could stay in some union housing

There are many immigrants that enter the US legally. The way the law use to work, may have changed since 9/11, is you can actually enter the US (legally) for vacation for example, then apply to the INS. Once your application is being processed, you can legally stay there beyond the 6 months (if that is what is still is) until the INS contacts you. This is I believe though, how many of the 9/11 terrorists happened to be there, so maybe it has changed now. Anyway, once INS doesnt approve the visa then if the immigrant doesnt leave, then they are there illegally .. an alien? we is got plenty of dem ere dred ..

if you are a good worker, there is no need to join a union, as you will always be able to get a job. If you own a business, then a union means very little. he he he, just to keep it going ... yes very corupt here .. no doubt about that ..

something to do with IE conversions of the taiwanese language symbols .. if you use Mozilla you wont see them ..