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UTP passive should not surpass 750', beyond that you should use Active, in Digital Video Recording applications.

Well everyone has a right to their own opinion, so i wont burn on your parade DVR.

Thats not even real the reason in my case; windows is windows, it has a higher chance of failure/crash, whether its from the DVR's software or hardware drivers, or corupt windows files, not too mention all the security risks involved with the more recent XP. Windows runs multiple processes where an embedded system only runs the video process. Getting totally away from stability for now, the fact that I prefer a smaller compact unit that I can stick in a closet and never have to touch for years, no monitor, keyboard, or mouse required, plug it into the LAN or WAN and just connect remotely when you need to. PC's have their place, but its not in my professional security installations. I want in and out, no building or testing, easy use without need for a PC if not required, and high quality local video. I could build a PC based Alarm Control, with many more features than the normal panels, but they would never be allowed to be installed, under UL especially. Most PCs (personal computers) would never survive in the conditions that I have my embedded systems located, high heat, dust, etc. without a ton of fans that would eventually burn out and require replacement.

the everfocus is another POS, they are sold around here alot. From reports of installers their tech support and remote video is awful. They are very cheap DVRs but there are ones just as cheap but bettter support and overall better product. This one on the other hand is much more advanced from their other versions, so it may be a good unit, but it is still everfocus.

Hi If your main concern is night time, I would just go Black and White one time, as no low light color camera can reach the quality of the low light from a good BW camera. plus the BW would be cheaper and higher resolution.

Hi, you can actually change the hard drive yourself using the same type (maxtor same model), but the warranty is void if returned as is, as the Serial number of the DVR is the same as the DVR's serial number. Way around it, by a 40GB DVMRE-CT, add the hard drive you want, then just keep the original hard drive that came with it incase you have to return it for warranty, just place the original hard drive in it! You will save yourself alot of $$. I too am amazed that they charge so much for an upgrade of hard drive sizes, seems they are all keeping in competition with each other, DM, Phillips, etc. all do the same when it comes to hard drive upgrades.

The Remote Software Crashed, thats just WaveReader. Its a machine, or to please you, a microelectronic device/computer, NOT A PERSONAL COMPUTER which ALways runs Windows OS, that is what it is called by the manufacturer or Power PC parts, which make up the DVRs. If the actual local device crashed, then you have a bad DVR, none of mind have done that. Sure any electronic (not just PC) device can crash, alarm controls do it also, and they are not PCs.

Its been since 1993 since i was there last. Actually its generally more expensive down here, as we import everything. We also have no national health or anything else that helps its citizens. I think thats a big reason we have so many drug dealers, who from lack of education or able to get a job, turned to drug dealing to be able to live, eat etc. Nassau is the capital, and is a dump, with spending by the government only going out to things like large church revivals and sporting events, they dont clean the island or upkeep it properly. They are finally redoing some of the major roads, but what good is that if they are lined with garbage, and broken down cars that never pass inspections. Even the outislands are getting dirty now. I miss the UK, and even the US, i guess I miss civilisation. I may be moving back to the UK, soon.

one thing with bullet cameras, they are the easiest cameras to install

this is out in the US, I think this is what you were talking about? http://www.geindustrial.com/ge-interlogix/facilitycommander/index.html Also, did you see these, great cameras with best image over most other name brands: http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products/ge-interlogix?pnlid=9&famid=63&catid=1083&id=CamPlus&lang=en_US http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products/ge-interlogix?pnlid=9&famid=63&catid=1083&id=UltraView&lang=en_US It seems though, that cheaper cameras and DVRs are moving more, like you said, it may be time for me to delve back into COP cameras, as they are like the cheapest we can get out of Miami, or Mace; Just to make some regular cash. GE, Phillips, etc, have to start dropping prices, as they are pretty rediculous, great products, but seems right now people are more concerned with price, and even for myself, I have a cheap B/W provideo bullet camera here at my place that works great. Seems B/W cheap cameras look just as or almost as good as an expensive high end BW camera, but I noticed the cheaper the color camera is the worst it normally is. (eg. $60 bullet camera) outdoors at least. Oh yeah, wish i was there!!

You havent tested the unit that he is asking about. DVMRe CT - different monster all together. Ive never heard of that, no Kalatel units have ever crashed on me. Once again, you are also comparing the storesafe only, which is the Kalatel's low end unit. Totally different machines. How do you crash it?? Throw it on the floor? Thats like saying I crashed a VCR, its not a windows PC, it will never crash. The DVMRe does not have a CDRW. agreed, but when you say faster, do you mean in pps? the new Kalatel DVMRe-PRO has a DVDRW and 120pps. As for the fan, I havent even seen one in the DVMRe, it is so thin and strong, its more of a machine than the StoreSafe, its as thin as a standard mux. I still agree DM is a nice unit, I personally dont like their software, though it does look pretier, thats what originally had me leaning their way, but went with the Kalatel for the more power and features.

Their wide dynamic range is very low, 48db, compared to the others mentioned that are 90-120db. Darn, those have to be the ugliest cameras I have ever seen, looks like they are made out of oakwood or varnish finish!

that being said, though no hands on with DM, I have heard they are great also.

I found the quality of the Samsung 421A very poor, compared to other pro cameras i have used. Then again it could be the auto focus feature. Plus they are not very low light, even though they claim to be.

I have several online Kalatels out there, they network great. they are very reliable and stable, and take only minutes to install and train the employees. Remote video is simple and great. Kalatel had DVRs before DM, have a wider range of DVRs and configurations, and also manufacture a wide range of high end CCTV equipment, so they definatelty know the CCTV industry in and out. Now owned by GE, they have a ton of funds to support their R&D(edit). If you want a demo to check out, email me, Ill give you a link to some software and a demo IP. If you already have downloaded WaveReader you can use that also, I can give you 2 IPs so you can test the multi-site feature (only 3 cams on one and 4 on the other but still). I originally was going to go with the DM but after looking into the Kalatel I eventually switched and still like their specs and network software more than DM's. A couple mux/single ch DVRs been up over 2 years, and more lately the storesafes and DVMRe-CTs, they never fail and require no maintenance. Also, of you are programming literate and into that, you can obtain a developers control to make your own software. Also they all 'now' come with browser based software on board. Rory

Use RG59, its easier to bend at the Mux side, and you can buy it as Siemese cable with power cable and the coax in one. There isnt much if any difference in quality, unless for both, you use an amplifier. Cat5 with active UTP receiver will give you the best quality, next to fiber being the ultimate.

You generally get a better image with a Traditional camera, over the bullet. Also, you have more settings for different applications and a wider selection of professional lenses, where a bullet comes as is.

I dont see the point of Zoom cameras, if you cant pan and tilt them. Ive used several of their 421A zoom cameras, well a friend bought them himself, and auto focus on that model is no where as good as manually focusing a fixed lens camera.

If you used an outdoor dome mounted direct to a wall it should not vibrate. Anyway, you would probably get a glare if anything from the light indoors. If you put the camera inside a housing and right up against the window, then you should not get any glare. The Infrared will still be there as its just like a regular light, except only the camera can see it.

depends, where do you live? If you are in the US, the Kalatel, if in the UK, probably DM.

yes they will sell to the US, but need large amounts.

The Pixim site only lists JVC, Baxall, and Pelco, where do you see GE and Everfocus? Its a pity all cameras cant have this type of technology though at this point in time, including the fixed micro lens cameras.

thanks. I noticed the wide dynamic range in the baxall and the GE was the same, havent checked the others you mentioned. The other brands not mentioned have a much lower wide dynamic range, which makes sense if the Pixem is in all of the mentioned like you said. Rory

why do their products look like ExtremeCCTV's IR products?? I noticed they are just as or more expensive in some cases. http://www.rainbowcctv.com/ir/index.html

DVR with CDRW http://www.nadatel.com/en/prod/s2_m01_01.html?product_no=16