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no the vitek one looks like it more, the DVR i looke at, has a SCSI port as well as SVHS. though, interesting link, BRANDING the DVR As for own logo on the software, GE Interlogix allows me to do that now, once I write my own softyware, which I have done. But heads up on the link Rory

I would but im broke and I have no credit card, at this time. Let me see tomorrow if I can get my colleuge to use their creidt card to get one (or more), Id definately like to check it out. It would be perfect for my personal cameras as I cant afford much else than that anyway at this time! JK. Ill see if I can get them to buy a few of them, as demos (like for me and their business and their home, the business will get great exposure as it is a large alarm monitoring co, they have aKalatel DVR already, but can sell this for a different market here. Thanks Rory

ok, but it 'supposedly' has a hard drive, looks similar though, very similar (doesnt have Vitak on it though!), I took a more detailed look at the back of it than the front, but either way, once the guy calls me back, ill be installing it anyway. I was so surprised not to see any name at all on it! Not in the manual either, no address, or anything. (in other, where do you send it for warranty like what comes in the manuals of the normal DVRs) It had a check on the box that it was a 4 channel, the only other selction was a 1 channel. maybe it is just a quad processor like this one though, which would be why it is so inexpensive. thanks though alan, you are on the mark as usual (do you have this stuff bookmarked! , this could be the same , just from the manufacturer direct, OEM product?

Oh ok. They look interesting. Something like what im llooking for for the video monitoring,. but we need cheaper stuff. Rory

it doesnt say if they are PC based or embedded os's, do you know which they are? Rory

yeah , price is my only issue with their products. though dedicated, phillips, etc, all cost the same or more also, just that name brand = high price, I guess.

compared to Kalatel/dedicated? Any ideas.

POS, or Point Of Sale?!! Rory

yeah, its a NY rep that sais Kalatel DVRs are out of date! His winXp/2K one is better according to him :-0 Dont know what it is yet, will see when he comes down next week.

never had any issues with the Kalatel DVRs, and the support is great, I have direct email with the engineers now. But those are all in ones, and shouldnt really be mentioned in this forum thread!

anyone got some links to sites with good pricing on CcTV, and other easy wiring tools? thanks Rory

Dont know about Network cameras, but 'CCTV' cameras generally dont have audio. Some bullet cameras, Ball cameras, hidden cameras, etc, come with audio, there are alot of different brands that have these, Provideo is one of them. There are also ceiling mounted microphone systems, l cant remember the name off hand, lorell r something like that.

no problem, noone is trying to offend you or anything, they all like to help when they can. Once you have the cameras, you can always switch the DVR if neccassary. And once the wire is run, you can always switch the cameras out of you wanted to at a later date, or even just swtich one at a time, and test different ones. It is not just a job, its also a fun hobby, at least for me , though can be expensive at some times. I have installed a few PC based DVRs in the past actually, though just love the all-in one stand alone DVRs as they are so easy to install and maintenance free, and now come with just about all the features of the PC based ones, BUT, are more expensive in our neck of the woods. Personally I cant afford one yet for my appt, im still using a home VCR@!! And BW Bullet Cameras... Soon though, very soon, ill switch as I get more money You know you can also hook the cameras up to your TV if you have a RCA input as most newer TVs do. Its only 1 input, so youd need a quad type splitter to split up the monitor output, they are pretty cheap and any brand should suffice. My VCR, i just use a 8hour tape, and hit record when i go out, and i have alarm yard beams though, so Ill know to look if someone tried to break in or steal etc. Heck, the alarm itself cost me $1800 using pricing from wholesale, including wiring the beams etc.! But its worth it. And thats only 3 beams, a motion and a door switch (hard wired). Rory

Hi Id recommend the GE Interlogix (Kalatel) DVMRe, if cost is not an issue. They have tons of features, are Triplex, and should do everything you want. Quote from my files: "This multichannel recorder adds Triplex capability: Watch live and playback images while it records. Display multiscreen views on two monitors. Search for recordings with motion in a target area. Four optional internal hard drives provide additional storage. An embedded operating system ensures your recorder’s working when you need it. DVMRe digital recorders use an embedded operating system. The result? Your digital recorder won’t be prone to system crashes like PC-based recorders: It will deliver continuous, reliable performance. And the stored video that’s so important to protecting your facility is safer from worms and viruses. Viewing software lets you access your recordings while at home or on the road. With the WaveReader software, you can connect to any DVRMe digital recorder in your network to view live or recorded images. Or connect using a modem. WaveReader opens your recorders to users who need access to them, and it enables you to check in on the business while you’re at home or on the road. " Size goes up to 1TB (1000GB), with optional acrhiving to rack mountable digital Storage Devices that can hold 2TB each, so yo ucan record for as long as you like (or can afford). More infor can be found here: http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products/ge-interlogix?pnlid=9&famid=63&catid=1088&id=DVMRe_Triple&lang=en_US For cameras that distance, Fiver would be the best, Kalatel also has dual transmission cameras, called Cam Plus, they are new: http://www.geindustrial.com/cwc/products/ge-interlogix?pnlid=9&famid=63&catid=1083&id=CamPlus&lang=en_US And for PTZ Cameras: http://www.geindustrial.com/ge-interlogix/kalatel/prd_dome_cam.html Rory

whos it by, sanyo, sony or samsung??

What do you mean by this? All we are trying to say is that you should'nt get this system because it's a toy, you should consider something else. Remember, most of us here are professionals of the security industry, we know what we are talking about, and we are just trying to help you make a smart decision without getting burned. exactly, most people that come to a cctv site, will generally be looking for more than a radio shack type of solution. We're not going to lie to you, merely stating facts on the quality of the products. Rory

how do you mean? The wireless video transmitters send real time video back to the receiver, then that just connects to a dvr or multiplexer, as with wired video. There is no bandwidth issue, it is UHF - 900Mhz, 2.4Ghz, or 5.8 Ghz.

everything on that site is cheap stuff, be interested to see if they work i wouldnt call those DVRs though, their just PCs with PCI video capture cards.

i agree, most you may find for that is a low lux BW bullet camera. i think that is around $200 right? The provideo link i posted, that product, with the 1 camera and the device that makes the noise and plugs into your TV, sells for $180 approx, US wholesale.

#1, what is your budget? #2 - Will it be pitch dark? #3 - What is the distance from the camera location, to the shed, will the camera be placed on your house looking at the shed? Okay, for infrared in pitch dark, best products are ExtremeCCTV.com. They have IR Cameras in BW or Color/BW from 50' to 150' and LEDs that go up to 600' (approx). One thing though, theyarent cheap! But , if you need infrared, its better to use their products one time, as you will only end up wasting your money with other products, such as bullet Cameras with IR leds, claiming 20+ feet. For VCR trigger, depends. You can use your beam connected to DVRs or Muxes, which will trigger alarm recording, and can send you email etc. With VCRs, you can can also do this, normally requiring a multiplexer or good quad. Let us know what your budget is and someone here can help you pick a good solution for your applcication. Here is something basic and ver inexpensive, wont use your beams but the built in motion instead, basic IR to probably 15-20 feet.Can add their VCR trigger device which will trigger the VCR upon motion. http://www.specotech.com/cart/products/productDetails.asp?prodID=474 Rory

the best ive seen yet for wireless cctv and support: http://www.videotransmitters.com/ 16 channel version. http://www.videocommtech.com/index.php?SCREEN=view_catalogue_level3&id=10&series_ID=39

provideo (speco technologies), and kalatel's isnt that expensive also.

kalatel gives 30pps, i use 5pps that gives goodplayback (the lowest I use) for retail, and if it is an all in one i use 2.5pps. rory

IR doesnt suck if you use the right company. ExtremeCCTV's IR cameras ndLEDs work great, remember i have used them and continue to do so. Its the cheap IR Domes and IR Bullets that generally dont do the job, limited IR no matter what they say, they only pick up a person vagley if they arewithin 15 feet.. But the cheap ones are worth it if thats the clients budget, just wont advertise them as IR cameras.

http://www.ltctrainingcntr.com/ website is pretty chabby, but a good book.