rory

http://www.marchnetworks.com

seen it on the web before, just wondering if anyone looked at them before, or tried them?

Rory

what do you think is the best quality (yeah i know fiber) yet still affordable?

Which do you prefer? Do you hire sub contractors to install fiber, do you install cat5 and if so what products do you use (receivers, patch panels, etc), what do YOU do, for the neatest, best quality, video runs??

im here listening

Rory

I have to agree with Mr. Z. Most companies that have brochures make them in house and promote their own products. If at all possible you don't want someone to know model numbers and brand names. Some companies go to the trouble of putting their own model numbers on the equipment so you can't shop them. The huge amount on the internet for CCTV does complicate things from the dealers point of view but luckily many CCTV projects are still too complicated for the average consumer to install and since it is usually a one time project they would rather pay someone else to do it rather than learn a whole new set of skills just for one job.

Yep, im doing that right now, in the hope that I will either have the money to start my own video shop in the new year (like march), or Ill have a partner who will fund it (have 3 possibilities, 1 is serious and has local electronic stores already, and the cash to fund).

Im adding the most popular and useful cameras, and not all or too many brands, still working on it, will post a link once its done. One thing I realised is that I cant just use one brand name for everything, as they all have their products that appeal over the others in certain areas.

Making just a product catalogue right now, taking forever.

Alan, you've been in the biz for a while, do you have any example flyers or brochurs you could spare with us? thanks .

Also, a video shop here in Nassau will be a monopoly as there is none here yet.

Everyone wants, fast big pictures!

I know, i want a 40" Plasma with Crystal Clear Crisp Video, Real Time, and if in 3 months i want to view something from then, i want to view it 3 months later, in the same crisp real time image on that plasma - oh yeah, i want ti be able to see the persons wrinkles if they have any, yep, that clear

Hey, did you get to view the club yet?

Ok will try again... hay do you have ICQ, would be easier than posts?

I have XP Pro, tried it on XP Home as well and 2000, all the same, checked active x controls, only thing I havent done is reboot, about to try that now... will download the other one and try it out. will let ya know

hi, no sorry no ICQ, or Instant Mess, just email. PM works ok though so let me know.

this is what came back (message excluded)

Unknown user: digitalsecurity@westnet.com.au

What was the bounce notification.. can you please post it up here so I can see the error?

 

I have pretty tight security on my mail server, you don't have any attachments wiht it did you? I did recieve 1 email with the I/P. but as I said it connects but blue screens only!

If you are behind a firewall it may not play the video. If you have the time, plz try the manufacturers software, or try the BasicVue basic software I have on myh download page, and let me know what happens. If it doesnt work with the manu soft then it must be a firewall or OS issue, id have to check on that. Id like to know for when I start to work on the software again, upgrading etc. Though i really need a local DVR to test with, which will come in the new year, i did test on XP and ME over the internet, using various computers, that didnt have any previous software installed.

Ofcourse, i have changed the set up using the Router, but i doubt that is an issue.

Mate its not working, connects ok but cant see any pictures, Perhaps I need a codec that is not on my system?

 

Any pointers?

Try again if you like. What OS are you running?

If it still doesnt work, you can download Kalatel's software and set up a new location in the address book, then connect using that. I have noticed lately that I had to connect using that first. DOnt know why, I need a DVR here in my appt to fully test the issues. Only started having them after our cable company changed their system.

The software uses some windows ActiveX controls already on windows, and some new ones that it installs. It 'may' have an issue with Windows 2000, I havent had a copy of that in some time, to test with.

WaveReader - manufacturer's software - 30MB (!)

http://www.geindustrial.com/ge-interlogix/software/WaveReader_3_0.ZIP

Plays live and recorded video, and much more

Or try the BasicVue on that same download page from my web site, it has some updated connections and may work better for you, its even smaller in size, 2MB.

Info for set up is on the download page, same IP address as i sent you.

Rory

http://www.wrenassociates.com/

thanks alan, ill take a look now.

Rory

PCI cards for Computers that accept coax inputs from CCTV cameras, using software installed on the PC to view the video stream, and utilizing internal hard drives for storage

I will email you to get the password and I/P..

Dude your email keeps coming back to me, do you have another email?

If not i will try the PM on here.

Rory

cant get into my main computer tonight to set up the browser control, but here is the link to download my WaveVue Live application, its only 3MB. Email me for the IP Address. Works on all windows versions including XP(except not tested on NT or 2000, but should work fine)

http://www.aspbahamas.com/ms/download.asp

Select WaveVue LIVE near the bottom of the page.

Rory

Cheers!

 

when i get the my browser control back up and running ill send you a link to check it out, so you wont have to download the viewer software.

 

trying to get them to upgrade to high resolution BW instead of the 420TVL BW Bullets. Ganz ZC BW DOmes look good and easy to install/setup, and have a wide angle varifocal lens version, but $450 compared to Kalatel's $300 High Res DOme. All are vandal proof weatherproof. I know there are cheaper ones like the provideo, but been there done that, I want him to have the best. I did want tradional cameras but too hard tofind a ceiling mount weatherproof housing for them, plus they would need to cut the ceiling to install it.

 

Rory

Cheers!

when i get the my browser control back up and running ill send you a link to check it out, so you wont have to download the viewer software.

trying to get them to upgrade to high resolution BW instead of the 420TVL BW Bullets. Ganz ZC BW DOmes look good and easy to install/setup, and have a wide angle varifocal lens version, but $450 compared to Kalatel's $300 High Res DOme. All are vandal proof weatherproof. I know there are cheaper ones like the provideo, but been there done that, I want him to have the best. I did want tradional cameras but too hard tofind a ceiling mount weatherproof housing for them, plus they would need to cut the ceiling to install it.

Rory

ok thanks, i got the router working with the DVR and another PC on cable internet, using the port forwardingto the DVR for that port

Rory

Hello there,

I seem to be back at square one. I called up Video Security Specialists (www.vsscctv.com) and they told me they're only open to dealers and I don't have a dealer license. Is there some other way I can go about looking for these CCTV cameras?

LORT

try www.spytown.com, search by manufacturer, or email them direct, They have wholesale pricing. I 'think' they will sell to non dealers.

Rory

http://www.wizkidoptotech.com/products/index.cfm

They only have the housing with cameras built in, i need a full housing for a traditional camera.

Thanks

Rory

Anyone have any ideas, tested etc. Ive only used the Sanyo so far, has alot of settings etc, but a pain to install. I notice the Ganz ZC domes have easier installation and more options, but no day/nigh version. Any others out there. I see Kalatel has one, but havent tried it yet, and doesnt seem to have all the options like the Sanyo and Ganz.

ROry

Hi

Does anyone know of any weatherproof Ceiling Mount Enclosures, whether it be a Dome or other. I am looking to switch from the Bullet Cameras at the night club, so a traditional camera for best quality, and need something to put it in. The cameras would be mounted to the outdoor ceiling, where the bars are located, and need something weatherproof as the rain comes under and hits the cameras during heavy storms.

It doesnt have to be vandal proof, but that would be a plus.

And any suggestions on an all in one outdoor dome, the best you may have tested or used. I was looking at the ganz ZC domes with the AI Varifocal Lens 2-4mm, with the COmputar lenses, since they have some good lenses, they may be better than the rest?

Thanks

Rory

Hi.

This is for the experienced in large systems:

1-What type of cable do you primarily use.

2-How do you make wiring 'neat' when say inputing 16 camera cables into your mux

3-Wiring to camera - what do you use to manage/hide the cable to the camera housing

4-Do you run primarily in conduit or loose

5-If you use Cat5, do you use those Patch boxes used in networking?

6-If you use Fiber, any low priced nodes/switches links, and info for self installing/learning fiber installation?

7-any tips, tricks, product links worthwhile?

thanks

Rory

Basically the firewall is before the port forwarding (well not really) but for discussion purposes it is.

 

What the firewall will do amongst other things is only allow a certain range of I/P addreses to connect to your router, for example you might only want your home I/P address to connect to the router therefore anyone else trying to hack you can not get it. (it is alot more complicated than that).

 

Basically if you turn your firewall on or if it is on by default then you need to allow the same things as you have done with the port forwarding. To be honest I always use the firewall, however unless you have sensitive material on your network, you may not want to. If you use Outlook and have a client database then I strongly recommend it, or do not connect your DVR to your internal network.

 

Hope this helped!

No they only have the DVR and 1 PC which is only on once in a while, and they only check email or browse the web, nothing sensetive though. I suppose I will have to turn it off then.

I have never used a Lynx router before, however I would imagine that the principles would be the same.

 

You have obviously paid for a static I/P from your ISP and this is your external window to the world.

 

If you can imagine that your Street is the internet, your House is your router and your Garage the computer and your Car the DVR.

 

Your street can let access to many houses, however yours has a specific address, this is the address that the rest of the world can get to you with and it is where to find you, this is your Static I/P address and is your EXTERNAL network to the internet.

 

Your house has a main door but it also has a number of windows, back doors etc etc, these are the ports on your router. When you want to protect your house from intruders you activate the firewall (lock all doors and windows) you can still get in the front door but only if you have the key to do so.

 

Most remote application software will use a TCP port and the manufactorer should be able to tell you which one it uses (in other words, which window to use to get in). However every time you go in through any port or entrance you are still entering the House (router). When you use the remote software you are trying to connect to another device on your INTERNAL Network, you are trying to get to the DVR (car). What your Router does is act like a butler for you, if you enter the house from the window(port) then the butler knows that everytime you enter this way you would like to go to the Computer (Garage) but if you come in the back door (another port) then the butler knows that you would like to go directly to the DVR.

 

This is called Port forwarding, you can set your Router to forward the port that the remote software uses to direct you to the car (DVR). You need to make sure the Car is parked inside however and at the same spot all the time. This is called fixing your internal I/P address, Microsoft invented some I/P numbers that will work only inside a network and will not work outside of it, you can use this to Fix your Internal I/P for both your DVR and your computer, you then tell the router to forward all enquiries on a certain port to the fixed I/P address of the DVR.

 

If you do not do this then when you are sitting elsewhere connecting to your Static I/P at your router it will try to send you to where it is told to or where your I/P address for the DVR was last time, however it may well have changed.

 

In short you need to configure the router to port forward the port that your software uses to the DVR and this will be in the port forwarding section of the router, if your device has a built in firewall, you will need to do the same with it. Most routers allow for remote configuration, so if you get stuck mate email me and I can do it from here for you. digitalsecurity@westnet.com.au

ok thanks. I just read the instructions for setting up a port forwarding etc. seems easy enough. One thing it doesnt say is whether I need to disable the router firewall or not.

Rory

Oky I think Im going to go with a UF100 on the front area of the house to test it out at a 30deg with their power supply. If it works out well I will go for like a 10deg on each side of the driveway.

 

I was looking at putting a PTZ dome camera in, any recommendations, its going to be used to cover the back and it is well lit at night.

Most PTZ's are pretty expensive, and you will need controllers for them also. Kalatel's CyberDomes start at $1300 approx, the keypad at $430 approx (wholesale).

A cheaper method would be a Pan Tilt Weatherproof Mechanism, a Zoom Camera like the Samsung SCC-412A, and a regular weatherproof housing, using the controls that come with the camera, and the PTZ mechanism. There may be a controller device that will allow you to tie in the cables from those to it, so you can use them both from one. I have tried this but seen it floating around the web.

Rory

UF100's require at least 5.6 amp, 12.6 VAC, not 24 VAC. It is a rather difficult power supply to find so you should just pony up for the official one from Extreme. As Rory says it also has the photoelectric cell for night time only operation. They use a bulb, not LEDs with about 8000 hours life so if you ran 24 hrs a day you would have some big problems. Also if a red glow isn't going to be a problem in the neighborhood (not super bright like conventional lights but you will see it) then get the 730 nm filter since it is more efficient. If you have to have a more semi-covert model then get the 830 nm filter.

I knew alan would know that stuff! I guess I need to start studying the manuals that come with this stuff some more so Id know the technical specs some more! But still you have years of experience which is why you are very useful Hey, why dont you write a book on CCTV or something, like to do with DVRs etc. I think it would sell. You have a vast knowledge of alot of different types of products which would be very useful.

On another note, that dual power supply i used for the UF500's had a 12 volt power output for a camera, which i used, but went through 2 cameras using it, dont know what happened but they just went bad, (picture went all glossy and florescent in both cases). SO far the 3rd one is powered seperately and working fine. ANd those UF500 LEDs can really do some hurt on the eyes, i wore shades and still they were bright in that though you cant see the light, it is there in full force! But they definately work, i imagine the UF100 light is much less painful on the eyes though.

Here is a link to a very good source in the Burbank area which is near most of the studios. They have a showroom, but I don't know how many Extreme's they actually have on display, although Extreme does have a showroom display board with many of their cameras. The link will have their address and also a list of the people there in case you want a name to contact before going over. Let them know it is for use in a movie. They also carry all the Panasonic cameras in case you decide to go that route.

 

www.vsscctv.com

 

Rory - the guys in NY must be laughing right now about your weather being cold but I completely understand from the Los Angeles point of view. If it isn't in the 70's I don't even want to go out. Come to Los Angeles and do CCTV installations out here, but brush up on your Spanish and Korean first.

I know what you mean, i used to be the one laughing when I lived in NY for 3 years, then came back here and saw everyone wearing thick 'down jackets', scarfs, and woolly hats in 60-70 degree weather! I guess the bloods to warm now!

I would come there if I could, but i cant get a work permit or green card, not that easy. I actually just sent in my application for the US Green Card Lottery, but that doesnt come through (if i am picked) until the end of next year.

Worth a try

im ready to leave. are you hiring...?

tired of the 3rd world!

Hi

Ok, im very knowledgeable with computer hardware, software, etc, but, ive never done this, I need to set a lynx DSL/Cable Router to take all incoming requests to a specific IP and send them to the DVR on a specific Port (say 192.168.1.110, where 192.168.1.1 is the first port). Lets say the static Ip is 24.244.155.55 (not real), and I have a DVR and a PC, PC only needs to to browse the web. The admin section is pretty complicated, as to what is to be changed where.

I will search tomorrow on Lynx's site to see if the info is there, and ill read their 60 page help PDF, but just checking in to see if anyone has a done this yet.

Thanks

Rory